Scoot Henderson - 2023 NBA Draft Prospect

[DPG21920]

Please let spurs land a top 2 pick.

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Please let spurs land a top 2 pick.

Ideally #1, of course. Since there's not a concensus #2, I fear having the second pick could tear apart this fan base. One thing we've always been lucky with is who to draft when we've had that top option. Getting a #2 and having that CLEARLY prove out to be the wrong pick as a pick in the 3-6 range balls out would not be good for the franchise long term.

[scott]

Ideally #1, of course. Since there's not a concensus #2, I fear having the second pick could tear apart this fan base. One thing we've always been lucky with is who to draft when we've had that top option. Getting a #2 and having that CLEARLY prove out to be the wrong pick as a pick in the 3-6 range balls out would not be good for the franchise long term.

Was thinking specifically about Marvin Bagley III when reading this, and wondered how that pick was graded at the time.

CBS Sports B-
The Ringer B
Sports Illustrated B
Yahoo B
Bleacher Report A-
SBNation B

Luka almost universally A to A+. So it can be argued that at the time it was well acknowledged that the Kings should have taken Luka instead. I don't remember this draft well because I guess I wasn't paying that close attention but my fear is that you have a bunch of guys rated similarly and then you take the one who busts at #2. (That doesn't appear to be the case with Bagley)

[Mr. Body]

The #2 pick is also cursed.

[spurraider21]

People overthinking Scoot at 2 tbh

[wildbill2u]

How susceptible will a 6'2" player be to having shooting problems over taller players in the major league.?? Especially if his preferred shot is a mid range jumper that will bring him into the orbit of frontcourt players as well as guards????

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People overthinking Scoot at 2 tbh

Or perhaps not group thinking

[TD 21]

That's an indisputably sound conclusion, if you agree on the PREMISES. Obviously I do not.

For the record, I have no doubt Scoot will be at least an above average point guard, I do buy his court vision and willingness to involve his teammates (not because he doesn't have an ego, but rather because he buys it's aligned with his own goals), and he clearly is a pretty good athlete. However, unless you're a monster getting to the rim and finishing (like Derrick Rose) or a very good shooter beyond (like Chris Paul, who's also a savant), chances you're a franchise's centerpiece at 6'1" or so are slim at best. Scoot is empirically a mediocre shooter from long range, and what worries me the most is that a lot of the time he settles for inefficient mid range jumpers against lesser talent. That doesn't scream NBA superstar to me. I do expect him to improve and it wouldn't suprise me to see him shoot above 34% eventually, but he has to be elite at either of those (if not BOTH) for him to achieve the kind of success that's being expected from him.

On the other hand, I think Cam Whitmore, Taylor Hendricks and Anthony Black have better positional size and are more versatile, and are good bets to eventually be quality starters on a contender at least, possibly more. So getting at least 2 shots at it sounds good to me, given I don't think Scoot is a lock to be a super star. May be, maybe not. But if no such deal is on the table, sure, I'll gladly take my chances with him.

I didn't say anything about being a superstar. Most centerpieces are not.

I'm talking Fox (All-Star caliber) or better. Athletic, explosive, score first, mid range reliant PG with mediocre efficiency.

It may not sound great considering the caliber of players who have often led this franchise in their history, but this is the last franchise that has any business so much as considering passing that up.

[Mr. Body]

Eh I’d rather have Miller if we want to win a le.

How is Miller going to help win a le?

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5-17
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Those are his shooting numbers for the tournament, games that mattered. I can see him being a good role-player, but how does he show any #1 option, superstar quality?

[Mnky]

Really doesn't seem like some people have watched full games of Scoot. Scoot definitely has good bball IQ for his age.
Tony parker minus IQ is wild considering Parkers gameplan was to just sprint to the goal and pass it to Duncan if they stopped him. Parker was never really the PG, Manu was especially during crunch time because Parker didn't have that decision making down until late in his career.

Scoot is an awesome prospect. Franchise prospect without a doubt. He could flop like anyone but he has that Alpha mentality and can take control of a game.

I love hearing he thinks he should go No.1 just like I did when Sochan was saying similiar things. You cant be afraid to compete, you got to want it. These young guys just express it more these days. Manu and Duncan definitely felt they were as good as anyone and played like it. Scoot showed it when he competed against Wemby. He put on a show. I honestly think his game goes up a notch against tough compe ion. That's a great characteristic to have. He won't shy from the moment, and wants the ball in big moments. Spurs haven't had that since Kawhi.

His shot has to improve. No doubt about that. His mid range is good enough to run a system. PGs don't need to be great at 3 to run a system, just sufficient. Obviously his star power is capped there but I don't see anything getting in the way of that development. He gets better every year.

Last but not least, he has way better handles than given credit. As a teenager, he can already make superstar plays with the ball in his hands. Not consistently enough yet but there's no doubt about whether he can play at that high level or not.

He would fill the seats and be a good building centerpiece going forward. All you can ask for with lottery picks.

[Dejounte]

Or perhaps not group thinking

Seriously, like, you’ve posted multiple times that you have done “zero research on prospects” this year yet here you are being the loudest poster about a player you have preconceived notions about but obviously have no clue. It’s quite silly, frankly, and reeks of someone trying to be edgy. …especially when you want to draft someone like Bilal in the lottery (or with our top pick? God, I hope not)

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I think the Spurs are right to prefer Amen Thompson. That kid will be one of the top three athletes in the NBA the second he enters the league. And, unlike Scoot, he is a natural passer with supernatural vision. He also has more defensive versatility and more positional flexibility at 6-7.

I know people here are skeptical of the Thompsons because they play in Overtime Elite. I frankly was too, but you have to watch Amen play. His hang time, body control, and speed remind me of a young Michael Jordan.

[KobesAchilles]

How is Miller going to help win a le?

0-5
5-17
3-19

Those are his shooting numbers for the tournament, games that mattered. I can see him being a good role-player, but how does he show any #1 option, superstar quality?

reading is your friend my friend.

[heyheymymy]

do not want scoot

[John B]

The things I’ve read about him is that he’s a team-first kinda guy. He’s the type who likes to make his teammates better, a gym rat and passionate about winning. I’d like Miller first for his size and the fit. But I wouldn’t mind Scoot.

[exstatic]

The things I’ve read about him is that he’s a team-first kinda guy. He’s the type who likes to make his teammates better, a gym rat and passionate about winning. I’d like Miller first for his size and the fit. But I wouldn’t mind Scoot.

Pre-draft spin to counter some of his obnoxious earlier quotes.

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Seriously, like, you’ve posted multiple times that you have done “zero research on prospects” this year yet here you are being the loudest poster about a player ou have preconceived notions about but obviously have no clue. It’s quite silly, frankly, and reeks of someone trying to be edgy. …especially when you want to draft someone like Bilal in the lottery (or with our top pick? God, I hope not)

Oh where to start?

Hit a nerve much on a player you like?

Edgy? Nope, just observant, IMO.

Yes I have stated that I've done next to no film study this year. I think I've said I've only done the most basic of research on them, aside from a couple hours watching the top guys and looking topically at their stats. It's Wembanyama or bust for me because I think it's not even questionable who I want. But...

I've definitely watched highlight tape of the top 5 or 6 guys however. As it relates to Scoot: He is explosively quick. And a fantastic ball handler. And finishes at above average level. But, as the numbers bear out, he's also just average or a tad below at assisting for a guard. And he's below average at shooting the 3, shooting percentage, is turnover prone, and is a below average defender And he's ball dominant, which added together do not make for the kind of player the Spurs should draft.

If you'll recall, I was also pointing out some of these same shortcomings about Primo before it was cool around here and was also probably the first to highlight that Primo could not finish and could not get easy buckets and was increasingly being asked to carry the rock more. Scoot is not Primo. He's far superior in finishing and handling but has enough other red flags in his game as to not be worthy of the 2nd overall pick.

Someone like Bilal? Yes. Have you seen any of his tape and measurable and stats? Compared to Scoot: Better 3. Better defender (more blocks and steals) and rebounder. Same age. More than competent handle. Incredible leaper. Huge wingspan. And plays against better talent.

And more than anything, this kid's game is just starting to explode.

You like bets evidently. I'll be happy to do a bet on who is the better draft pick 2 or 3 yrs down the road.

All in good fun man. It's perfectly OK to have different views on these guys.

[The Truth #6]

We’ll be lucky to get Scoot. More likely we’re debating high end role players when we don’t get a top 2 pick or whether or not to get Amen.

[Brazil]

so basically Westbrick... we saw how successful this kind of guard is at padding triple double but not so much at winning

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so basically Westbrick... we saw how successful this kind of guard is at padding triple double but not so much at winning

He's not in the Westbrook/Rose/Ja zip code of athleticism. When all is said and done, he'll be more Bledsoe than Westbrook.

[Mr. Body]

He's not in the Westbrook/Rose/Ja zip code of athleticism. When all is said and done, he'll be more Bledsoe than Westbrook.

Yeah, I see Bledsoe in him. People who say Jay Williams also have it right. Scoot really doesn't have the vertical explosion people think he does. Sure, there are two dunks he has in his highlight reels but they're always the same two dunks.

[Brazil]

He's not in the Westbrook/Rose/Ja zip code of athleticism. When all is said and done, he'll be more Bledsoe than Westbrook.

Yeah, I see Bledsoe in him. People who say Jay Williams also have it right. Scoot really doesn't have the vertical explosion people think he does. Sure, there are two dunks he has in his highlight reels but they're always the same two dunks.

Bledsoe ? Eric Bledsoe ?

you mean an improved version of Bledsoe or straight Bledsoe ceiling ?

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Bledsoe ? Eric Bledsoe ?

you mean an improved version of Bledsoe or straight Bledsoe ceiling ?

Straight Bledsoe. He was a good player, and had a 12 year career. Never an All Star, though, and not someone you could have wanted to build around.

[Mr. Body]

Bledsoe ? Eric Bledsoe ?

you mean an improved version of Bledsoe or straight Bledsoe ceiling ?

We're pretty clearly talking about Bledsoe physically.

But, sure, why not -- Bledsoe in his mid-20s for Phoenix as a ceiling. That's a good player. I don't see any reason to think Henderson will be a franchise player much less some demigod. If he went by Sterling Henderson, if G-Ignite wasn't hyped to by ESPN and the league, and he didn't come into the year with "generational talent" and "would go #1 in any other draft in the last ten years if not for Wembanyama," people would be a bit more straight with him.

[Rocalcio]

I remember that earlier in the season there was a debate on who should be N°1 between him and Wembanyama. Since that his hype has been diving so much that we're not even sure he's locked at N°2.

I'm not a big fan of this guy, hopefully we get the first pick so we won't have to wonder weither or not we should get him.