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So you think Scoot is a generational talent and that he'd "easily be the first pick of any draft of the last ten years"?
I'm totally not with mr body and exastic( and others) on this one, that's not the hype.
Hardy get the hype in high school but did not pass the test of g league, scoot does, not all players have good seasons like him at his age.
He has some flaws but also a lot of qualities, i can't say i'll be a superstar but imo he'll not be a bust, too much strenghts in his game.
I would e happy to have him with a pick 2 or 3
So you think Scoot is a generational talent and that he'd "easily be the first pick of any draft of the last ten years"?
He didn't have a good season in the G league.
i think that wemby is a generational talent, after that i think that scoot may be the best player in this draft.
Im totally open to the debate but imo he's not here because of the hype or a potential bust.
19 games, 30min/game, 16.5 pts at 42%, 27% behind the arc, 76% FT, 5.3 rbs, 6.8 ass, 3.5 to... That's correct but not worth the hype he got.
That's not my opinion but ok, a correct or quite good season if you want.
Yeah, I’m wary of the #2 pick.
Sure it’s landed KD, Kidd, and Morant, but outside of that it’s pretty poor.
I guess LMA, Williams and Ingram where #2s, but meh. Far more Bagleys, Wisemans, Okafors, Van Horns, Beaslys, etc etc than the other way around.
The thing that worry me about Scoot is he didn't had an opportunity to show what's he capable (if he is) when the game is on the line. Not saying G-League is bad but they're there to showcase or rise their stock thru stats and highlights hence no pressuree unlike NCAA.
Again, I don't mind him at #2 but if the Spurs landed him they still needed to get another 6'6" and above go-to-guy in the upcoming draft since they will still probably be a lottery team (to be fair regardless if whoever the Spurs picks). Currently, most of the teams in the 2nd Round in the Playoffs are being led by a 6'6" and above outside Curry and maybe Brunson but they're playing team ball.
The NBA would be a lot better off if they raised the minimum draft age to 21.
Check Ex's response to the same post you quoted.
The post he quoted said something about Scoot BEING a superstar and other qualifications. My response that that he will NOT be a superstar, the opposite of what your post said that people were saying.
Capice?
I agree with that. Too hard to guess on how an 18 or 19 year old is going to develop. Might have been able to weed out guys like Primo and Walker.
Scoot should be on that list. There's no good argument that he's not good at basketball. How he acted as a high-schooler (which wasn't even bad FFS) is not an indicator for how he's going to act five to eight years removed from that (meaning when he enters his prime and the team is legit trying to win). The team that drafts Scoot will have a large effect on how he develops. You of all people should believe this. There's no reason to believe that Henderson is going to come in and take the ball from everyone else on the team and that the Spurs would be fine with that. What they would definitely be fine with his giving Scoot opportunities to grow into his game, as they have been doing with everyone else.
Draft high is going to mean drafting diva prospects, likely who've gone through the AAU/NIL if not semi-pro pipeline. Moralizing against prospects who have that kind of hype train behind them would just put the Spurs behind the cart. Of course, the Spurs could for purely basketball reasons just think some other player is better. That's fine. In fact, I'd say it's likely that someone picked later in the draft will end up being as good or better. But they shouldn't use the potential struggles of a Ja-led team or any other team that features a PG as a justification, both because that would still be a huge improvement for them and give them a platform to make a win-now trade later on and because drafting a PG who looks like he'll be the star now doesn't mean they won't just draft a better player next year. I don't care if he's the Westbrook to future Durant. That OKC team is still incredibly aspirational for the Spurs. They just have to make better decisions if they find themselves in that position.
No, because you explained to Teeds that you're using a different definition of superstar. Like are Ja and Fox superstars in your mind? If they aren't, then you're setting a higher standard than I am when it comes to my opinion of the logic failing. No one's saying he's a guaranteed HoFer, but you're literally advocating for drafting a guy with a lower ceiling because he "fits better with others", and that's the problem.
I don't really view Scoot as a future franchise player. Is his ceiling higher than Amen? I'd see Amen as having a higher ceiling and also a much lower floor. But maybe that's the direction to go when there's not a sure thing out there. Or trade the pick if we end up 2 or 3.
I don't care how he acted as a high schooler, and his current iness, while annoying, isn't the reason I don't want him. He's an inefficient high usage chucker. If his gleague numbers were 30p/12a 40% 3G, 85% FT, I'd be all over him, and they should have been. The gleague is only baby steps better than OTE. There are virtually no shot blockers, so the rim should have been his playground, a virtual turnstile of scoring for him. That didn't happen.
Chin, we're not going to agree on this or convince the other of our POVs. You'll come back with something like he can learn to play well with others, and I'll point out the litany of low efficiency chuckers who never did. Scoot's not the athlete that Wall or Rose or Westbrook are, and he's not the shooter to overcome that deficit.
There are really maybe 3-5 superstars in the league at any time, so, no, Fox and Ja aren't. You have to at least make All NBA 1st or 2nd team, and win something, maybe a playoff series or two.
im gonna lmao when the Spurs end up drafting Scoot with the #2 pick and Mrs Body is inevitably sucking him off once he has a few good games for us like he hasnt been ting on him constantly for the last year or more
Good Christ are you obsessed with me.im gonna lmao when the Spurs end up drafting Scoot with the #2 pick and Mrs Body is inevitably sucking him off once he has a few good games for us like he hasnt been ting on him constantly for the last year or more
right. this is a thread about Scoot Henderson, in which you are ting on him, which you have done pretty much any time he has been discussed over the last year. if you werent always spitting out re ed takes in a sad attempt to be the next timvp, i wouldnt need to wipe my ass with your stupidity
lol, it's you and that other guy. You never have anything to say, you just swoop in to see what I have to say and then show how obsessed you are.
My issue is not with saying Scoot isn't a good basketball prospect. I haven't paid attention to the scouting beyond an occasional Hoop Intellect video, so I don't know. You and the Spurs may just determine that he's not a better prospect than other guys, and that's okay.
My issue, as you anticipate, is the idea that because 19-year-old Scoot isn't mature that he'll never mature. We don't know much about the actual temperaments and at udes of these players. That was just underscored by Primo ending up being a ing predator whom no one on the team seemed to like despite passing all the personality tests the team had when he was drafted. So I don't actually think we know about what Scoot will be like in the league. Players will just be more and more set up this way as we move toward pre-NBA situations becoming more monetized. That's not a bad thing as a whole at all, but it does come with some challenges. The teams that figure out how to sift through those changes are going to have a huge advantage over their compe ors. The Spurs can't act conservative about this lest they be caught on the wrong side of history.
Okay, so what I'm saying is that getting a guy in that tier is worth way more than getting a good fit. Like even if you have two iso-heavy prospects, you can build a middling system off that as you try to develop a system around their talents. No, it's not the optimal way to a le, but the Spurs aren't going to go from drafting high to contender status. They're going to have to make signings and trades along the way, including those that acquire top three players on their team. If they draft two Tony Parkers but no Tim Duncan, then so be it. They can still go for it then tank again if it fails. They can't just tread water until a top 3-5 player falls into their laps.
If we are lucky enough to land Wemby, the team will probably improve by 10 - 15 games or so, putting us at about roughly 35 wins, still out of the play in. If we draft anyone else (even Scoot) we probably end up at about 30 wins. Any other team improvement in the way of wins will have to come from trades, new signings or current player improvement. Either way it will still be an improvement over this past year.
A lot is riding on this draft, but we should also look at other sources of improvement as well.
One thing about missing on a high draft pick, there are quite often other teams that feel they can trade for that guy and the change of scenary is all he needs so they are not always total losses.
I'd prefer the Spurs draft a high ceiling player, but if they don't I'll assume that player had too many concerns. Talking about Scoot and Amen here, specifically, and if we land 1-3. But if we start getting into picks 4-7, at that point I'm not exactly considering Cam Whitmore worth taking over say Walker/Hendricks/Anthony Black. I don't see us trading back if we are in the top 3. It's possible Amen could slide, so it will be interesting. To me, this is the challenge with drafting a high pick: there is lots of risk. It's easier picking role players later in the first round when you already have 3 HOF players and you're competing for les every year. Outside of Wemby, I don't see any player having the potential to vault us into the play in tournament, so I expect us to suck next year as well. Whether or not Pop leans into tanking I can't say. But I can easily see us still in the bottom 8.
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