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Timmy
because instead of 5 rings -
he should have had 8 or 9!
and because I am a greedy spurs fan!
Wiley Peck
Alfredrick Hughes
Dwayne Schintzius
Livio Jean-Charles
Josh Primo
James Anderson
Karl Malone was picked outside the lottery.
Timmy
because instead of 5 rings -
he should have had 8 or 9!
and because I am a greedy spurs fan!
Primo is a good choice in this poll for being 12 and not really blossoming plus the fact Sengun was available regardless of how you rate Sen factoring in the scandal and knowing you'd have Sen right now instead of nothing to show for it at all.
But kinda feels like Primo while def kinda sucking on court was a bad pick more for the scandal and so in the more basketball sense I think Luka Samanic is the better choice for this poll. Luka sucked at basketball straight up.
At 19 he is early enough to expect more. Yeah Livio-Charles but at 28 you start to expect much less and lots of those late FRPs flop.
The other aspect about Luka is almost costing ourselves KJ not that KJ is that great but you pick Luka at 19, he sucks, and if that cost you someone like KJ it would've added insult to injury and even though it didn't happen the risk of it added to the debacle of Luka's selection.
TL;DR I feel like Luka Samanic is the perfect crossroads of high enough selection + ty player that showed nothing + better on the board you almost cost yourself
I remember people being pretty disappointed with Cadillac Anderson, but Primo has to be the pick. Primo didn’t bust because he couldn’t play basketball. He busted for walking his meat hog in front of unwilling eyes. He might be in the conversation as one of the worsts busts in league history. Len Bias is less ridiculous of a bust.
Alfrederick Hughes I’d say. Didn’t he get cut before his rookie season started?
He played 68 games for the Spurs
It's Primo and its not even close.
He was drafted on character and is currently out of the league cause he can't keep his in his pants at work
Yeah, Primo without a doubt. Sad story all around. Sexual trauma is no joke.
I would say Primo based on purely objective measures
The highest pick who then played less than seasons worth of games.
However, several players before him have had rocky starts and don't look to have long term significant long term impact.
Luis Scola!
Played in the NBA, 1st rounders with most negative B-R career VORP:
-7.8 Greg Anderson (-1.1 as Spur)
-1.5 Dwayne Schintzius (-0.3 as Spur)
-1.3 Blake Wesley (but too early to not improve)
-1.2 Malaki Branham (same as Wesley)
-1.1 Lonnie Walker IV (-1.3 as Spur, so positive VORP as Laker)
Played in NBA, highest pick with negative B-R VORP
9 Jeremy Sochan (but too early to not improve)
12 Joshua Primo
14 Alfredrick Hughes
15 Reggie Johnson
18 Lonnie Walker IV
Highest draftee who didn't play in the NBA
26 Nikola Milutinov
28 Livio-Jean Charles
41 Chris Carrawell
44 Henry Williams
49 Ryan Richards
First rounders playing fewest games
37 Blake Wesley (expect not to be on this list next year)
43 Luka Samanac (may move off this list)
52 Wiley Peck
54 Joshua Primo
56 Jeremy Sochan (needs to be healthier)
Last edited by Drom John; 04-28-2023 at 10:16 AM.
Really? I don't remember that at all. Was a pretty productive player who was the last pick of the first round, so I don't remember any kind of huge expectations for him or anything.
I stand corrected, maybe I’m just remembering the general feeling around the Spurs after Ice but before the Admiral. The Spurs got him in the Mychal Thompson trade, who was past 30. Really looked like he was doing good until he was included in the Alvin Robertson-Terry mings trade. Did he get injured after that?
Damn man James Anderson looked legit until he got hurt.
Is Lonnie Walker somehow not eligible? (Not that he would win, but it's insulting to him to be so recent and yet so overlooked.)
Too soon. It may take years before some realize how bad he was. Counting stats don’t tell that story.
I'm torn between Alfredrick Hughes and Josh Primo.
It's all relative
Hughes was bad
Yeah Karl Malone was taken the pick before, but there were two players before Malone who barely played in the NBA.
Yeah Dumars and Terry Porter were taken after Hughes, a lot of mediocre players taken before.
You're going to whiff periodically on draft picks.
Primo probably the biggest given TO DATE multiple serviceable players taken after
Nothing like a Portland Trailblazer big man whiff
Lonnie Walker isn't really a bust, but there were a number of good players picked after him.
As far as busts go, it's Hughes by a mile in terms of worthlessness.
I don't think guys like Walker/Samanic/Anderson/etc can be considered busts when they were picked in the back half of the 1st round. The entire draft is a crapshoot after the first 10 picks or so most years anyway
And while they are not setting the world on fire, Walker and Anderson are still in the league and Samanic is hanging on by his fingernails.
I meant James Anderson, not Slow-Mo
A bit off topic, but most either became or looked to be in the process of becoming more or less as projected.
Too much emphasis on perceived "culture" fits and confidence in player development staff and not enough on analytics, which correctly forecasted many.
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