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Good stuff... I have a question though... do you think that shot is fixable?
Amen Thompson
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Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 202 pounds
College: Overtime Elite
Position: PG/SG/SF
Draft Range: 2-7
Spurs Comparison: James White! plus playmaking plus basketball IQ plus actual basketball talent
Strengths: Elite athleticism, natural playmaking ability, processing speed, court vision
Weaknesses: Shooting outside of 15 feet, previous compe ion level, defensive fundamentals
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Good stuff... I have a question though... do you think that shot is fixable?
For the moment I’m adding the kool aid powder to water and enjoying a refreshing glass. So I’m open to the risk of drafting Amen. Scoot seems more accomplished, so to speak, but for all the talk we do lauding the Spurs development success, it seems like we should double down and give Amen a chance. What does Scoot do that is much better, other than shoot less poorly?
Amen has length, insane athleticism, good bbiq, great passing and processing—I don’t see how we wouldn’t love to get him with our team and develop him. To me, the biggest issue is not his caveman shooting mechanics but uncertainty about his work ethic. If he isn’t a gym rat or if he comes off as lazy, then, no, not worth it. But if he’s just been poorly coached in a joke league, then I think he’s worth considering, even over Scoot.
Just speculating. I’ll probably change mind next week. But the opportunity seems enticing.
I think he’s the most likely pick, just based on the fact that he could go anywhere from 2-4 and our pick can be anything from 1-6.
Swing questions: does he actually have good processing and IQ, is he actually a good passer, or was he playing against players 2-4 years younger in a playground league?
I know people love to about Millers tourney but teams will regret taking Amen ahead of Miller if that happens. It was a rough ending for Miller but best he had those tribulations now than in the middle of his career like Morant. I see Miller as considerably better than Amen.
Amen’s floor is probably the lowest of all the top prospects.
theres no fixing his shot. he has to relearn how to shoot basically from the ground up
I probably need to research Miller more. I only started paying close attention to him the last two months of the college season and during the tourney. Miller's steadiness says "Spurs". It's too bad about his off the court stuff because I agree he'd probably be the safest pick.
Amen could be a superstar but he could also be a waste of a top 4 pick. Tough to pull that trigger if you're in the draft room I bet.
I hate reading all the scouting reports.
Wemby is a KD/Giannis hybrid, Scoot is a high IQ Westbrook, Amen is apparently already the fastest basketball player in the world and Miller is Pg13 v2.
Seems like 2nd to 4th pick will be a toss up, way too close for mere mortals to call without seeing extensive workouts and background scouting.
Hopefully PATFO gets it right.
any link between Spurs just adding a new shooting coach and Spurs considering a Thompson twin or Scoot? /s
No more than Scoots. But he's 6'7" and quicker. If it's a choice between Amen and Scoot, then hallelujah it is.
scoot's not a good shooter by any stretch but he's miles ahead of Amen. i think scoot can fix his shot to become at least a mediocre/passable shooter, whereas amen has to burn his down and build it from the ground up
some really important visits (workouts) coming up after the lottery if the spurs land between 2-7.
Had to look up wtf this was, tbqh. 6 games plaed in 06-07, at least I forgive myself for not remembering.
Could just be for Jeremy.
Virtually every wing with impressive physical tools and a modi of skill gets fetishized nowadays (which is funny considering the best players in the league are bigs).
Stranger things have happened, but I don't see superstar potential. I see Iguodala potential, aka fringe/complementary star.
Somehow "great physical ability" has become "incredible ceiling as potential future superstar."
Those aren't the same categories.
Imo he's a good to really good passer with a good IQ but playing in OTE make it easy for sure.
starts at 3'30 for the passing game
scoot's shoot is nowhere near amen's,who has an awful one.
quite frankly, I'm just not blown away by any of the guys 2-7 or 8 that would ordinarily be easy picks. Each one of the widely talked about players has AT LEAST one major flaw.
Part of the reason I'm high on Coulibaly. Dude is like an developmental iceberg where it seems 90% of his game is just under the surface.
His game is JUST starting to blow up. Look at his progression. Look at his PER 36. 18.2PPG. 2 5 Steals 53% FG 34% 3 pt. and 61% TS.
And improving. Dude has hops that don't stop. And plays defense.
I'd take him #2.
If you see my post immediately above, I'm merely saying I'd take Amen over Scoot. I don't LOVE either one quite frankly. I think Blake Wesley has the potential to have a better career than either of them. But to be clear, neither Scoot nor Amen are good shooters, especially beyond 18 feet. Both have major flaws. Multiple flaws. Main reason I'd take Amen is merely because of size.
You don't remember James White!
I mean, James White!
Also, I've learned my lesson about drafting a kid and hoping he'll develop the potential or develop a desire to play defense. I tried to hold out hope for Luka and Lonnie. I wanted it more for them than they did. I see that same thing in Scoot's defense and Amen's shot.
I mean if we had Chip I would feel more confident about this pick. I think OKC should draft him tbh. That would be a nasty line up they have if they can teach him to shoot.
I like athleticism and playmaking and the size. But you HAVE to learn how to shoot in todays game. This isn’t the 90s anymore. The dude can’t even be a bench player if he can’t shoot. The problem with the pick is if he doesn’t learn to shoot then we have no place for him on the team. This is a pick we make if Pop stick around for 3 more years.
But yeah I want Miller. After Wemby of course
Not sure where he'll land, but I get your point tbh. When you see the prospect pool, and Bilal's progression vs pro, adult compe ion, you're really intrigued. He can shoot the 3 (mostly catch and shoot so far but there's def room for more), he's super fast on fast break, can finish at the rim, good defensive instincts, showed flashes of playmaking skills... Show me other guys in that draft who can say better, other than because they're Coolege players. Would Bilal come from the NCAA, he would probalby in the top 10 or even top 5 convo.
If spurs miss on Wemby, I wouldn't be disappointed they pick him. Prolly not a superstar but potentially a really solid 2 way guy.
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