You don't have to keep all of Jones/Graham /Wesley so no need to pile on the roster which is a concern for you.
Yeah if you thought it was a logjam you would have to trade Wes and Graham both are under contract. Jones could leave this summer but I wonder how much SA values him and how his market is league wide.
Doubtful and less ideal but maybe they can shift positions around perhaps pushing Graham or Blake (or Amen?) to SG and keep all of them with no additional steps but all this must factor in somewhat of concern unless they just want 4 ball handlers which I concede it's possible they very well may.
I really think people are optimistic thinking either Amen or Ausar can be part of a rotation this next season. They're coming out of the same league Barlow did and we remember Pop's comments about him. They even have another year of OTE to pick up terrible and useless habits.
As for Tre Jones, I think the team likes him a ton and he'll be around.
At this point you pick the best player forget who is currently on your team we almost had the worst record in the NBA
Whoever the pick is, they'll be a rotation lock next season because they'll be the highest pick in 26 years for the least talented and marketable team in the league.
Graham isn't a long term Spur, he'll be moved by the next trade deadline IMO. Wesley is a prospect, but he shouldn't prevent us from adding better talent, he's painfully raw and could very well benefit from spending most of the season honing his craft in the G-League, no other team would give him more than garbage minutes at this point so its not like he's got much room to complain. Same goes for Barlow, I like them both but they're not the caliber of guys that should prevent you from taking advantage of any opportunity that arises.
Yup, they'll play even if they suck a$$.
Never heard of this podcast. Spurs centric analysis of Amen:
https://youtu.be/xuKrHzPnWMQ
No they won't.
I guess in a scenario where they get injured or die before opening night, they wouldn't be in the rotation. But outside of that, it's a lock. I would say it's more likely than not that they start. As I've said, I don't see the Spurs starting the year in a win-now posture no matter who the pick is. The Spurs aren't going to draft a player with a top-five pick only to then realize they literally can't play in the NBA. Even if they're like Sochan and aren't good for most of the year, they will play big minutes. I honestly think it's more likely that they're in the year-one rotation than it is that they're in the year-two rotation. If Amen for example needs to learn how to play in the NBA, he'll do so in SA and not Austin.
Have you guys ever watched the Spurs?
Yes, including last year when the first top-10 pick this century started immediately despite not being able to put the ball in the hoop and still trying to figure it out on defense.
Have you ever watched any basketball besides the old Spurs to see how top-five picks are normally treated?
Right, the team that famously doesn't promise playing time to anybody. The one that makes sure its players can contribute and know what they're doing. They're really gonna throw a guy in who doesn't know what he's doing and make things worse for himself. Popovich, who takes players slowly if he has to.
That franchise and coach is going to just give time to a guy who has no ing idea how to play NBA basketball just because he was pick #3. They're gonna change absolutely everything for some 20 year old who's only been playing against high schoolers for two years and may have no concept of NBA rotations or offenses. GTFO.
Good catch, I didn't know Harry Potter was a Spurs fan.
To think Amen can't crack the rotation of the second worst team in the league. Come on now get real
I mean we have the second worst record in the entire league. PLUS the kids would most likely be a top 5 pick. He is playing no matter what. Now he might not start. But he’s playing. I mean who do we even have to play ahead of him?
Why do any of you listen to Mr. Butthole anymore?
When rascal is sitting you down...
Apparently Mr. Butthole is stuck in 2005. This is not a good team. Lmao tossing out weak arguments about needing to earn your place. Wake your stupid ass up and welcome yourself to the modern Spurs, dumbass. He will be a starter or immediate rotation player from the jump. Who in the is he earning his place against on this squad?
Why would the Spurs draft a guy who doesn't know how to play basketball with the third pick? Do you think they're stupid? Yes, they could draft a bust -- but he'd be a bust they'd go into the season believing in. Hence the playing time. Even if they draft him knowing he has to work on things to really be at an NBA level, they're going to play him in SA. In Austin he'd get big minutes against lower compe ion, but he could also be in SA and get big minutes against lesser compe ion and theoretically grow faster. And if your answer is "Well Pop may not want to give up the season by giving a raw player rotation minutes, then why are the Spurs drafting him?Right, the team that famously doesn't promise playing time to anybody. The one that makes sure its players can contribute and know what they're doing. They're really gonna throw a guy in who doesn't know what he's doing and make things worse for himself. Popovich, who takes players slowly if he has to.
That franchise and coach is going to just give time to a guy who has no ing idea how to play NBA basketball just because he was pick #3. They're gonna change absolutely everything for some 20 year old who's only been playing against high schoolers for two years and may have no concept of NBA rotations or offenses. GTFO.
No, I'm not ignoring that you may not like Amen or that the Spurs may not like him either. That's not the point I'm trying to make. What I am saying is that they aren't going to believe in a guy enough to take him with a top-five pick but also be so skeptical of him that they wouldn't put him in the rotation. They'd have options for other guys to pick; it's not like they'd be forced to select a guy because he's the only player in his tier ala GS and Wiseman. I'm not trying to pile on you, but you seem to think the your perception of the Spurs' past has way more bearing on the present than it does.
^tbh
I've been consistent that the Spurs aren't going to draft Amen or will trade down if he's there, so the point is somewhat moot. But if they get Whitmore, for example, he could spend time in the G-League. The mother er doesn't even know how to pass.
So, yes, if their player isn't ready for the NBA, he'll go to G-League to work things out. There's no 'guaranteed rotation spot.' They're not going to jam a player into the rotation just because he's costing them a high draft pick and lots of money. They're going to make sure he's ready for the years ahead. Like you said, Wiseman went down for the Warriors.
A lot of weirdos in this thread.
If Blake Wesley received as much playing time as he did as raw as he is, Cam Whitmore shouldn't spend a second on the G-League, given that he'll be above average in a number of areas the second he steps on the court. Besides, reading the game better and being able to take advantage of his teammates is something he definitely needs to improve on, but he's a forward, not a point guard. Also, keep in mind he's an 18 year old who's used to be a finisher rather than a creator, Jaylen Brown was a year older and had a lot of the same issues, and he ended up more than alright. He won't be Jokic, but I don't think he's Lonnie either.
No one is expecting him to be a PG with a 2 / 1 or 3 / 1 assist ratio, but having one that is not close to 1 / 1 is a red flag. His is essentially 1 / 2.3. He pretty much doesn't see anyone on the court if they're not directly in front of him.
Sochan only had one more assit per game than Cam in college.
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