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some insight into the thompson twins, why they chose the OTE and the OTE itself. just sharing, not commenting one way or the other.
https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/...overtime-elite
One of my major problems with player ratings is that they get a rating in HS, and everyone clings to that like grim death. VERY rarely do you ever see someone evaluate a former HS wonder and just say "He just didn't work out when he played up one level."
some insight into the thompson twins, why they chose the OTE and the OTE itself. just sharing, not commenting one way or the other.
https://www.theringer.com/nba-draft/...overtime-elite
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it's an interesting read(Barlow is mentioned-and quoted.)
It's not hard to critique the Thompson and OTE. Definitely lots of risks and question marks. For me, I'm tired of just critiquing the players without context. I mean, eventually we have to pick someone even with their risks (and they all have risks) and picking a role player with pick #4 (let's say) is a risk too.
For me, I'm thinking:
Victor
Scoot
Miller
Amen/Walker
Black
Hendricks
Keyonte George
Cason Wallace
Ausar
Interesting read. Two things I've read in the last year still give me pause. Sometime after New Years, they were talking to Pop about Dominick, and he gushed about what a great kid he was and how hard he was working, but then finished with a comment that he really knew nothing about basketball when he walked through the door. Also, Dean stated in his article about the twins that their latest wingspan measurements were 6'6" and 6'7" and not 6'11" or whatever the article quoted. I don't agree with all of his opinions, but this article was in February, and he's not prone to mis-statements, no matter what you think of his takes. That's actually a huge deal. A few years ago, everyone was all over Brandon Clarke, and he was getting late lottery buzz. Everyone assumed that he had a 7'0" wing span because of his NCAA blocks. When it came back at 6'9" (same as his height), he dropped into the 20s on draft day. His last two years in the NCAA, he blocked 2.6 and 3.2 per game. His best NBA year was 1.1, and the rest of the time he was below 1. Lest you think it's a function of minutes, his per/36 and per/40 aren't close, and neither is his blk%. Those short arms are handicapping him in the NBA.
Reason why the combine is still important and the new CBA will force any FR projected player to at least be measured (and make ITVs with interested teams I believe).
At getting mad because you made an all time dumb comment and got taken to task for it and now have the audacity to call others stupid on top of it.
You can make whatever nebulous, vague claims you want, the reality is Sochan and Branham had significant roles basically from jump because it was obvious they needed to so much so that Pop himself said they (and Wesley) would be "thrown into the fire" in training camp.
It doesn't matter how in over his head the "#3 pick" looks, they will absolutely play a significant role from the jump too.
You work for EA Sports, don't you?
You can make whatever nebulous, vague claims you want, the reality is Sochan and Branham had significant roles basically from jump because it was obvious they needed to so much so that Pop himself said they (and Wesley) would be "thrown into the fire" in training camp.
It doesn't matter how in over his head the "#3 pick" looks, they will absolutely play a significant role from the jump.
Mrs. Body getting regulated for her re ed takes per par
Holding him back? Clarke is still a fantastic statistical player in the NBA. He on/offs weren't good this year, though he was still a positive on the court. His defensive impact stats continue to be positive. You aren't completely wrong, in that his deflection stats have never been good in the NBA and that that is likely a function of size. But he's been good for Memphis and was rewarded with a nice second contract. He would've been a fine pick at 19 or even 9. No, I agree that if Thompson ends up like Clarke, he wouldn't be a good pick, and I do think the question of his wingspan would affect his draft stock. But Clarke and to a similar extent Kessler are examples of why you shouldn't ignore hyper production in college players. Stats do matter, not because they will translate completely, but because it shows the different types of skills a player has. That's not a comment on Thompson, but it is something to keep in mind for picks later in the draft.
Nice second contract? For Memphis, maybe. 4/$50 is actually low end.
It's not low-end. It's more than the MLE. Almost by definition he'll be in the top half of contracts in the league. He's not being paid like a star, but he is being paid like a guy his team is investing in.
Mr/Mrs Body is acting like Scoot and Amen are totally worthless players not worthy of even being on the team.
You can make whatever nebulous, vague claims you want, the reality is Sochan and Branham had significant roles basically from jump because it was obvious they needed to so much so that Pop himself said they (and Wesley) would be "thrown into the fire" in training camp.
It doesn't matter how in over his head the "#3 pick" looks, they will absolutely play a significant role from the jump too.
timvp already has said the Spurs are high on both so the Spurs FO is not in agreement and if the Spurs land 2nd or 3rd they will draft one of them.
Memphis desperately missed him in the playoffs
Hes right IMO in that I wouldn't draft either in the top like 6 or 7 -- not your description of them being worthless. I think there are at least 5 better players. So many flaws with Amen having more but being longer being the reason I'd take him one spot higher. I don't see them being all-stars, at least certainly not perennial all-stars. Too many questions in their games.
Everyone has their top choices.
What are yours?
Last edited by rascal; 05-09-2023 at 07:20 PM.
DeJounte got $14M more over 4 years after missing a season with a blown ACL, three years earlier. As far as FRP extensions go, it IS low end. Not sure I’ve even heard of a lower one that was signed, although the one Lonnie turned down probably was.
Wemby. And then...
Bilal Coulibaly is my second. Improving game, best man defender in the draft which we desperately need.
Cam Whitmore. Similar body and athleticism to Bilal. Plays both ways.
Miler.
Jerace.
Hoping like he'll we don't draft lower than 3rd because I think the talent drops and the questions increase with each lower pick.
1.Wemby
2. Scoot
3. Cam Whitmore
4. Amen Thompson
5. Ausar Thompson
6. Jordan Hawkins
7. Jalen Hood Shifino
I'm swinging for athleticism and offensive upside with the first pick.
With the second pick I'll take a more defensive minded player who can be a solid rotation player like Andre Jackson but I'm not burning a first round pick on that type of limited offensive upside player.
Last edited by rascal; 05-09-2023 at 07:35 PM.
I read in the first paragraph that he did declare.
Conflicting information, then, because he’s not on the comprehensive list below their CBS top 50 list.
They forgot to add him.
No I saw a thing on Twitter like 10 days ago where he did. I think he did it like a day or two before Wemby did actually
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