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    But that's exactly the point, it actually directly contradicts the dossier, which points to Mueller conducting it's own investigation on the matter, and not using/relying on the dossier.

    The only mention of the dossier or Steele in the entire report is a re-print of a Trump tweet (Page 111), and that Congress (not him) relied on that report to question Cohen (Page 139)

    However, Mueller's report also points out why there was probable cause to investigate Carter Page: Russian intelligence officials had formed relationships with Page in 2008 and 2013
    Where did the allegations of Page and Cohen come from that Mueller contradicted?

    And the FISC all over probable cause of Page

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    Where did the allegations of Page and Cohen come from that Mueller contradicted?
    It doesn't matter where they come from, we're discussing if Mueller used/relied on the dossier, and that's clearly not the case based on his own report (which directly contradicts the dossier, thus it's indicative he conducted his own research on that line of investigation after taking it over from the FBI)

    And the FISC all over probable cause of Page
    It wasn't the FISC, it was actually the DOJ letting the FISC know:

    DOJ assess that with respect to the applications in Docket Numbers 17-375 and 17-679, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

    This is the DOJ telling the FISC they definitely made a mistake with at least two of the four requests (the last two). A more in-depth, legal and non-partisan read on this here:

    https://www.justsecurity.org/68472/d...a-application/

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    It doesn't matter where they come from, we're discussing if Mueller used/relied on the dossier, and that's clearly not the case based on his own report (which directly contradicts the dossier, thus it's indicative he conducted his own research on that line of investigation after taking it over from the FBI)
    I'm not sure we are just talking past each other or if you are just completely misunderstanding what I am saying. You keep bringing up Mueller relying on the dossier, I've never claimed that once. Mueller used the allegations from the dossier, investigated them, and directly contradicted the dossier. The dossier was part of Mueller's investigation.


    It wasn't the FISC, it was actually the DOJ letting the FISC know:

    DOJ assess that with respect to the applications in Docket Numbers 17-375 and 17-679, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

    This is the DOJ telling the FISC they definitely made a mistake with at least two of the four requests (the last two). A more in-depth, legal and non-partisan read on this here:

    https://www.justsecurity.org/68472/d...a-application/
    I had to stop reading after seeing it was from hyper partisan Collusion hoax believing Comey is my homey shirt wearing CNN resistance analyst Asha Rangappa. She's that last person to go for for in-depth non partisan legal analysis.

    I'll never forget this doozy from her.
    It Ain’t Easy Getting a FISA Warrant: I Was an FBI Agent and Should Know

    https://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/

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    In addition to their representation of defendant, a separate lawyer at the firm is currently representing the 2016 “Hillary for America” presidential campaign (“Clinton Campaign”), as well as multiple former employees of that campaign, in matters before the Special Counsel.


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    Is there anything in the tweet about a satanic cabal that eats children in the basement of a pizza place?

    Asking for a desperate tsa working 24/7 in korea, without internet.

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    This just in: People in contact with an investigation have legal representation!

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    Is there anything in the tweet about a satanic cabal that eats children in the basement of a pizza place?

    Asking for a desperate tsa working 24/7 in korea, without internet.
    What does it feel like to be the least replied to poster in the political forum? For a quite some time I just thought everyone had you on ignore but then a few days ago I actually saw someone respond to you. Are you even aware that 99% of your posts are ignored by everyone here? No comments, no quotes, not even a pity lol. It’s time for you to either create another alt or just stop posting. You’ve killed your current handle.

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    I mean, you just replied to him and you'll probably comment about me again....

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    What does it feel like to be the least replied to poster in the political forum? For a quite some time I just thought everyone had you on ignore but then a few days ago I actually saw someone respond to you. Are you even aware that 99% of your posts are ignored by everyone here? No comments, no quotes, not even a pity lol. It’s time for you to either create another alt or just stop posting. You’ve killed your current handle.
    Did I hit a nerve? Made you upset?


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    ZERO

    I SAID


    ZERO FBI
    ZERO INTEL
    ZERO- PERIOD - people in jumpsuits…


    just a bonafide DISTRACTION INVESTIGATION TO COVER FOR THE TRAITORS TREASON




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    Bbbut- DAT DEEP STATE THO’


    bwahahahaha

    lol

    comrade TSA

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    Coffee boy's big mouth, tbh


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    Mueller investigation: several parties found guilty.

    Durham investigation: *wet fart sound*

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    Released without cuts or editing, unlike the Barr summation.

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    Mueller investigation: several parties found guilty.

    Durham investigation: *wet fart sound*
    11 trump administration people convicted of crimes -

    mueller also charged russians who assisted the trump campaign

    bbbb-but durham trying to spin that the fbi should NOT have investigated…
    (IG had already cleared fbi)

    glad we dont decide to investigate crimes by DURHAM standards….
    instead we go by probable cause and evidence

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    no additional recommended charges, no sweeping reforms proposed.

    the highlighted seems more of a quibble than an accusation.

    "sensible step...to open a preliminary investigation"


    https://www.justice.gov/storage/durhamreport.pdf

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    "It's Like, Just Your Opinion, Man" A Repug hired gun and his directed conclusion.


    Pootin has been corrupteding Repugs, eg Ginni Thomas, through fund in Dominica.

    Corrupt, traito Trash still refuses to take Ukraine's side against his wingman Pootin.

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    The Corporate Media Goes Full Republican Pander

    Here are a few headlines from corporate media outlets:

    CNN: Special counsel John Durham concludes FBI never should have launched full Trump-Russia probe

    NYT:
    In Final Report, Trump-Era Special Counsel Denounces Russia Investigation


    Washington Post: Durham report sharply criticizes FBI’s 2016 Trump campaign probe


    NBC News: Special counsel issues report criticizing FBI for launching Trump-Russia investigation

    -- PoliticsUSA email

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    The Corporate Media Goes Full Republican Pander

    Here are a few headlines from corporate media outlets:

    CNN: Special counsel John Durham concludes FBI never should have launched full Trump-Russia probe

    NYT:
    In Final Report, Trump-Era Special Counsel Denounces Russia Investigation


    Washington Post: Durham report sharply criticizes FBI’s 2016 Trump campaign probe


    NBC News: Special counsel issues report criticizing FBI for launching Trump-Russia investigation

    -- PoliticsUSA email
    because they are all trying to court treasonous trump/fox defectors for the next election…

    only msnbc (so far) is calling a spade a spade

    they are basically reporting that Mueller convicted several people so it makes ZERO sense that an
    fbi investigation should NOT have been done

    as the CONVICTIONS speak louder than a partisans (Durham) OPINION!

    and if DURHAM has such confidence in his opinions and accusations- HE WOULD HAVE ACQUIRED CONVICTIONS

    end of story

    there was no “hoax” and trump in fact is a ing traitor as everyone knows

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    Wonder if the news traveled to South Korea yet, tbh...

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    so his big conclusion is that there was no criminal activity and that he respectfully disagrees with the big OIG report that said the investigation had the proper factual predicate to be launched

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    that is the CULT for you…

    re-arrange the planet to make it fit or match what dear leader spouted…

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    You guys were gaslit for years. Congrats

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