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If Gradey lead to the murder of a young black mother, he'd probably be questioned publicly, too.
But... he didn't. His tournament was epic.
If Gradey lead to the murder of a young black mother, he'd probably be questioned publicly, too.
not in this thread, but yeah ive acknowledged his awful tournament as a red flag. season and sample size are a lot longer than that tho
Actually he’s now 20
He didn’t. Miller didn’t bring the shooter the gun and had no idea that his friend was going to pass the gun off to a 3rd party.
Definitely not legally responsible and judging by the text messages and information public he didn’t have any knowledge of what the gun would be used for.
He didn’t hand the gun or even correspond with the shooter in any capacity related to that event.
All I’m doing is holding him to the same standard of property transfer as everyone else.
None of the text or correspondence discussed anything related to why the first party was asking for the gun. I’m not even sold that the person he gave it to knew the shooters intent until well after Miller gave him the gun.
Face value also suggests that Miller didn’t load the gun either.
Would you or I bring a gun to a friend in the middle of the night? Probably not but there are millions of people who have for all kinds of innocuous reasons.
Handing a gun to someone. Who then takes the gun to someone else without your permission isn’t a crime unless you can establish some level of intent. There was none.
Again. If it was Grady he’d be applauded for being a cooperative witness and handing adversity. Miller is absolutely being criminalized wrongly.
Regardless of whether we feel it was poor judgment.
If Wright gave RC a bottle of wine who then gave it to Pop who then killed someone while drunk driving I guess everyone here wants Wright arrested.
We don’t discuss DWIs about Spurs FO, coaches, and owners!
I mean I get it - just don’t like the framing of Primo mattering. All of what y’all say makes sense and is true to a degree, but you cannot go in with that bias. The risk is there whether primo happened or not. Just means due diligence is tougher in this case; not that you pass on a great player out of fear.
Not worth the headache--I'd rather trade out of #3 if that's where we land.
Just take Whitmore. I honestly like Whitmore more than Miller at this point even not factoring in off court.
I might be joining you, tbh. Whitmore looks better after doing a deep dive. Factor in his age and he's pretty impressive even though he doesn't know yet that you're allowed to pass to teammates in basketball . . .
Whatever it takes after drafting Primo
I will be thrilled with him honestly. That’s why top 4 and I feel pretty good. After that, gets depressing lol
i still like miller the player better than whitmore the player but its not a big enough gap that i'd be furious about taking whitmore at 3
but i have scoot-miller-whitmore as my 2-4
past that id be willing to swing at a thompson
Not sold on Miller. Character is an issue. Also, that 19% shooting in the NCAA tournament shows me he's not "Big Game Brandon". We already had DDR and LaMarcus. We don't need another guy that shrivels in the post season.
Big fan of Whitmore, that dude is a freakshow.
He has poor judgment in the type of guys he's friends with.
He isn't good enough to pass on his questionable character alone But.
I'm not big on disqualifying a player on character alone but add up how poorly he played in a big spot in the tournament with the questionable character and then add I don't see special talents(quickness beating his man with athleticism, an extreme finisher at the rim) like I do with Scoot, Amen, Cam(players who will be in the range with Miller and where the spurs will be drafting so everything added together I'll pass on Miller and draft one of these other players.
If I'm drafting him for primarily shooting then I'll be happy to draft Jordan Hawkins who I like more as a perimeter NBA shooting prospect.
I can’t speak to Millers ceiling but I’ll make two claims here that we can revisit.
1. He’s going to be a respectable to above average starter in this league by his 3rd season.
2. He’s not going to have any significant character issues while in the NBA. IE guns, beating women… the serious stuff. I’m not talking infidelity or weed etc.
Dudes gonna be fine.
Would still take him 3 and maybe even 2 tbh
https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Not-Gone-Great
Clearly all of these signs (shooting involvement, pat down charade, failing interviews, presenting himself in bad shape) aren't independent of each other. This guy almost certainly has a few loose screws upstairs.But there are still questions surrounding Miller's involvement in the killing of Jamea Jonae Harris and his interviews reportedly have not gone well in addition to his current conditioning level.
"Every team is looking for this type of player," said ESPN's Jonathan Givony on Zach Lowe's podcast. "Six-nine, big guard, can handle the ball. Pass out of pick and roll. Make shots off the dribble. Defend multiple positions. Rebound. That's what people are looking for.
"At the same time, he's not in great shape right now. So I don't know how great his workout is going to be.
"His interviews have not been great, I've been told. Both publicly and privately with NBA teams.
"I would put it 60 percent Brandon Miller at two, 40 percent Scoot Henderson. I do think they're going to have trade conversations too. I would be shocked if they traded [the pick]. They would be out of their minds honestly. The best thing in the world that could have happened for them is getting the No. 2 pick."
I was once in the same boat. Not anymore.
im not feeling Miller anymore tbh
pass
I didn't like Ingram as a prospect before this piece of information. Now I'm not even sure if I would take him top 3. If this is true and not a smokescreen from someone, Charlotte would be crazy to take him over Scoot. It will also potentially depress the value of Portland's #3 pick.
I Could see him fall to Houston
Seems destined for the cursed #2 pick.
How can you com into draft season out of shape?
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