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    Amen would cost a boatload and he's not going to be prepared to contribute much for a while. People are seriously undervaluing how much he'll need to get up to NBA speed from the OTE standstill. He's also going to be overrated by teams who missed the Wemby sweepstakes.

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    I been thinking bout this years ago: I think the Spurs should try to draft Bronny in 2024, so we can sign LeBron for cheap and he rides our coattails for a year

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    No...

    Draft your 7'3" power forward, suck again next year, get another star even if he's not Wemby level good next year.

    Build like the OKC Thunder built from 2007 to 2009. Get a bona fide All Star three years in a row. #BuiltNotBought

    And don't be an idiot like Sam Presti and trade away one of your three young stars immediately after making the f**king NBA Finals, just because you didn't want to pay him AND Kendrick f**king Perkins.

    That is all.
    Pretty much this.. we do need to spend at some point before going permanently into luxury when resigning wemb. We probably have a two year window to formulate the team for the next decade. On paper, that is.

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    Rival executives are closely monitoring Portland, believing that this pick is potential trade bait if the Blazers try to improve the roster and compete with Damian Lillard entering the end of his prime years. As one agent told HoopsHype following the draft lottery, “If Portland puts Lillard on the market, the entire NBA is going to stop until he’s traded.”

    – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype

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    Pretty much this.. we do need to spend at some point before going permanently into luxury when resigning wemb. We probably have a two year window to formulate the team for the next decade. On paper, that is.
    Build super team through the draft and maybe 1 younger mercenary who is low risk high reward like maybe Ayton who wants to play here long term and then we can just keep paying luxury tax which is fine by me because this isn't the NFL with the hard salary cap.

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    Bilal may be there at 32
    32? not even at 23 maybe 15-20.
    my bet is top 16

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    If Keldon and a first gets you in the Top 8 with a guy you like available, you do that all day tbh. I could definitely the teams at 6-9 being interested.

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    I think Anthony Black would be a perfect fit also. High character kid and adds another point/forward to the roster. If they are entertaining trading up into the top 7 that would be my choice.

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    32? not even at 23 maybe 15-20.
    my bet is top 16
    He's going to have to perform well in the individual workouts to move up that much....and he might...

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    If Keldon and a first gets you in the Top 8 with a guy you like available, you do that all day tbh. I could definitely the teams at 6-9 being interested.
    Yeah, I think if you're the Spurs you test the water to see what sort of interest there is from other teams for a draft pick trade if there's someone else on their Big Board who was a prime target should they have lost out on Wemby.

    Why not? Spurs are in the driver's seat at this point. Enjoy the ride.

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    I think Anthony Black would be a perfect fit also. High character kid and adds another point/forward to the roster. If they are entertaining trading up into the top 7 that would be my choice.
    plus he's from "Duncanville, Texas" so really a perfect fit

    then go acquire Duncan Robinson

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    I actually don't think the spurs will be in the market for a "point guard". Think they will run their offense through Sochan and Wemby, so I don't think they will be looking to trade anything to get one.

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    what the spurs need now is a future elite playmaker whether thats a pg or a wing to pair with wemby and they got a few yrs to figure it out as wemby develops

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    For any of the scouting heads out there: How does next year's draft look? Is it worth it for the Spurs to try to slow play to take advantage of the top of that draft, or should they focus on this draft and free agency?

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    So we know the Spurs are extremely likely to draft Wemby with the first pick. We'll take that as set.

    Now the Spurs did a bunch of scouting for guys in the rest of the upper lottery, and I'm sure they have guys they had made their peace with drafting. With all of the assets they have, should the Spurs consider making an aggressive move to snag one of them? I assume they could get most picks if they were willing to go all-in, but that would be stupid in my book. But trading some future firsts and/or someone like Johnson or Vassell might make sense if they think there's a second key player on the board.

    Does anyone have any sense of who such a target could be and how much a realistic trade for such a prospect would cost?
    If the Spurs REALLY love some guy, I'm sure they can trade into the high lottery even, say they offer Orlando (they already have #11 as well) Spurs '24 unprotected + Toronto '24 + maybe one more pick, or Keldon Johnson + Toronto '24 + one more pick. If Orlando doesn't see a clean fit and you LOVE some guy there (say Ausar Thompson or Anthony Black) I'm sure they can pull it off. I'd be VERY wary of overpaying though, more often than not being vigilant and waiting for the right deal ends up the better choice than being desperate for some guy.
    More realistically, a few guys I'd like:
    late lottery/mid teens targets: Keyonte George (undersized and inefficient but young and very talented offensively, high upside scorer) or Kobe Bufkin (big, young, smart, all around PG who could grow into a core piece) in the late lottery (Say Toronto's pick + Charlotte's or other future pick)
    Early/mid 20s targets: Dariq Whitehead (very good shooter with potential for more whose stock was hampered by injuries and role), Rayan Rupert (great defensive potential with freakish arms, can't shoot worth a lick) or Bilal Coulibaly (great athleticism and defensive potential, Wemby's pal) in the 20s (Charlotte's pick + #33 or a couple future 2nds)

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    For any of the scouting heads out there: How does next year's draft look? Is it worth it for the Spurs to try to slow play to take advantage of the top of that draft, or should they focus on this draft and free agency?
    Supposedly not great in top-tier talent. The rest, hard to tell. Last year was supposedly not great but it turned out pretty deep.

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    For any of the scouting heads out there: How does next year's draft look? Is it worth it for the Spurs to try to slow play to take advantage of the top of that draft, or should they focus on this draft and free agency?
    I don't look THAT far ahead since there are so many variables in play that can't be predicted. But supposedly there isn't a Wemby, Luka or Banchero in the pipeline for next year (these guys were known 1 year ahead). With that said, I don't see why there can't be a Sochan, an Anthony Black, these type of players that aren't supposed to be one and done yet they're super smart and well rounded, and once they're on the court at a higher level they change perception quickly and rise up the boards. For that reason I think it's foolish to dismiss a draft class that much in advance. With that said, if you can take advantage of anything right now, you do that... no sense in passing up good present opportunities for unknown future ones.

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    No...

    Draft your 7'3" power forward, suck again next year, get another star even if he's not Wemby level good next year.

    Build like the OKC Thunder built from 2007 to 2009. Get a bona fide All Star three years in a row. #BuiltNotBought

    And don't be an idiot like Sam Presti and trade away one of your three young stars immediately after making the f**king NBA Finals, just because you didn't want to pay him AND Kendrick f**king Perkins.

    That is all.
    It wasn't just about the money. Harden wanted his own team where he'd be te franchise, go-to guy, not riding KD or backing up Westbrook. There wasn't enough place for both Westbrook and Harden over time in that OKC team, on the court and in their egos, as Harden's rest of career clearly showed. There's nothing Presti could have done, publicly Harden was saying all the right words but he wanted out also for a bigger market in Houston.

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    For any of the scouting heads out there: How does next year's draft look? Is it worth it for the Spurs to try to slow play to take advantage of the top of that draft, or should they focus on this draft and free agency?
    Not that strong at the top... picks for 24 are the ones to move in trade..

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    It wasn't just about the money. Harden wanted his own team where he'd be te franchise, go-to guy, not riding KD or backing up Westbrook. There wasn't enough place for both Westbrook and Harden over time in that OKC team, on the court and in their egos, as Harden's rest of career clearly showed. There's nothing Presti could have done, publicly Harden was saying all the right words but he wanted out also for a bigger market in Houston.
    maybe that was part of it, but at the time all the talk and reporting was that harden and OKC just couldnt agree on money. they were something like 4-6 mil per year apart in negotiations. meanwhile OKC had recently given Perkins a contract for 5/40 lmao

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    I don't look THAT far ahead since there are so many variables in play that can't be predicted. But supposedly there isn't a Wemby, Luka or Banchero in the pipeline for next year (these guys were known 1 year ahead). With that said, I don't see why there can't be a Sochan, an Anthony Black, these type of players that aren't supposed to be one and done yet they're super smart and well rounded, and once they're on the court at a higher level they change perception quickly and rise up the boards. For that reason I think it's foolish to dismiss a draft class that much in advance. With that said, if you can take advantage of anything right now, you do that... no sense in passing up good present opportunities for unknown future ones.
    One player in next year's class that would be sweet to draft is Bronny James. Right now he's projected to go in the 20s. It would be sooooo coooool to have LeBron force his way out of LA to come to SA to play with his son. over the Lakers and let LBJ play point guard a couple of years. We have 3 picks next year. It'd be worth burning one even whether or not Jr. is worth a pick.

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    He's going to have to perform well in the individual workouts to move up that much....and he might...
    See updated mocks now:
    ringer‚s 17th
    tankA 25th
    one mock even 15th
    week ago - outside 1st R mainly

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    Not that strong at the top... picks for 24 are the ones to move in trade..
    I'd like the Spurs go get down to two firsts and two seconds in each of 2024 and 2025. Charlotte's and Chicago's firsts seem like the obvious ones to move, along with a bouquet of seconds from 2024 and onward. I think as a package with 33 and cap space, they could get a decent first from that. It would be much harder to make such a deal next summer.

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    https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock...randon-miller/
    PORTLAND
    Rival executives are closely monitoring Portland, believing that this pick is potential trade bait if the Blazers try to improve the roster and compete with Lillard entering the end of his prime years.
    HOUSTON
    With Houston preparing to make an aggressive push to sign James Harden this summer, rival NBA executives believe this pick will be used as trade bait as the Rockets look to take a significant step forward next season.
    DETROIT
    Following the lottery, Pistons general manager Troy Weaver said Detroit would “turn over every rock” and explore trades involving the pick. Similar to Houston at No. 4, however, the value won’t be nearly as high as the top three picks.
    DALLAS
    Rival NBA executives expect Dallas to dangle the 10th overall pick as trade bait to improve the team in the immediate future around franchise star Luka Doncic with the hope of re-signing Kyrie Irving too.
    Damn, 3, 4, 5, 10 potentially for sale! Don't know whether the Spurs have what these teams are looking for (win now players), but couldn't hurt to explore options.

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    Mavs seem like a fit for Keldon - young but still win now type guy that can help right away on a good deal. Might be something to it. Collins + Keldon for 10+ Javale + Bertrans

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