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    Why the Durham Report Matters to Democracy

    It is a damning account of the corruption of the FBI and its accomplices.

    Two special counsels, several inspector general reports and six years later, the country finally has a more complete account of the FBI’s Russia collusion probe of the 2016 Donald Trump campaign. Special counsel John Durham’s final report makes clear that a partisan FBI became a funnel for disinformation from the Hillary Clinton campaign through a secret investigation the bureau never should have launched.

    The 306-page Durham report released Monday afternoon is far more comprehensive than anything issued by original special counsel Robert Mueller. Mr. Durham had already unfurled some of the narrative with his prosecutions of Russian national Igor Danchenko and Democratic lawyer Michael Sussmann. He lost those cases, though the indictments laid out how the Clinton campaign used foreign nationals, an oppo-research outfit, and political insiders to feed the FBI and the media lies about Trump collusion.

    The Durham report gives a fuller picture of the FBI’s complicity under former director James Comey and deputy Andrew McCabe. It scores an FBI that “failed to uphold their important mission of strict fidelity to the law.” Here are some of the specific findings:

    • No basis for investigation. The FBI lacked “any actual evidence of collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia when it violated its standards and jumped over several steps to initiate a full investigation, including probes into four members of the Trump campaign.

    The pretext for the probe—a random conversation between unpaid Trump adviser George Papadopoulos and an Australian diplomat—was so flimsy that FBI agents complained it was “thin” and British intelligence was incredulous. The FBI opened the probe without doing interviews, using any “standard analytical tools,” or conducting intelligence reviews—which would have shown that not a single U.S. agency had evidence of collusion.

    • Bias. The Durham report makes clear that partisan hostility played a role in the probe. The report cites a “clear predisposition” to investigate based on a “prejudice against Trump” and “pronounced hostile feelings” by key investigators, including former agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI attorneys Lisa Page and Kevin Clinesmith.

    • Double standards. The report lays out several instances in which the FBI was concerned that agents of foreign governments were seeking influence by donating to the Clinton campaign or the Clinton Foundation. Yet in one case in 2014 the FBI dawdled over obtaining a warrant from the secret FISA court because—according to an agent—“[T]hey were pretty ‘tippy-toeing’ around HRC because there was a chance she would be the next President” and the FBI was concerned about interfering with a coming presidential campaign.

    The FBI gave a Clinton representative a “defensive briefing” about the risks of foreign actors. Mr. Trump received no such briefing.

    • Willful ignorance. The report lays out numerous examples of the FBI ignoring evidence that it was being used by the Clinton campaign to execute a political dirty trick. This included intelligence the government received in July 2016 alleging that Mrs. Clinton had approved “a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security services.”

    Former CIA director John Brennan briefed this material to President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Mr. Comey, yet the FBI ignored it. It did the same when it learned that collusion dossier author Christopher Steele was working for the Clinton campaign and that Mr. Steele and oppo-research team Fusion GPS were spreading disinformation to the press. And it ignored exculpatory statements made by Messrs. Page and Papadopoulos in secret FBI recordings.

    • Russian disinformation. The report says that two members of Russia’s intelligence service “were aware of Steele’s election investigation in early July 2016”—when the former spook first contacted the FBI with his dossier—and that as a result his sources may have been “compromised.” This means the FBI probe that disrupted American politics for three years may have begun as a Russian intelligence operation.
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    All of this is an indictment of officials who were supposed to supervise the FBI, whose director reports to the Attorney General. Where were Ms. Lynch and her deputy, Sally Yates? The report notes that Deputy Assistant AG Stuart Evans raised concerns with the investigation, but the Comey FBI snubbed him, and higher-ups at the Justice Department ducked their duty.

    The press corps was also an all-too-willing accomplice to the collusion con, yet there has been little to no outrage or even self-reflection at having been played for dupes. Most coverage largely dismisses the Durham report because no one new was indicted. The press performance in the collusion story has done untold damage to its credibility, and it’s a major reason that much of the country believes nothing it reads or hears about Donald Trump.

    The Durham team deserves credit for not engaging in leaks, innuendo or politicized actions—precisely the FBI behavior it is criticizing. The report notes that if the findings “leave some with the impression that injustices or misconduct have gone unaddressed, it is not because the Office concluded that no such injustices or misconduct occurred,” but rather that “the law does not always make a person’s bad judgment, even horribly bad judgement” a crime.

    The FBI responded to the report by claiming it has already “implemented dozens of corrective actions” that, if in place in 2016, would have “prevented” this mess. Mr. Durham appears to have predicted this shabby evasion, and his report provides a powerful retort. Its conclusion notes that it isn’t recommending “wholesale changes” in guidelines or policies, because the FBI ability to fulfill its responsibilities “comes down to the integrity of the people who take an oath . . . As such, the answer is not the creation of new rules but a renewed fidelity to the old,” namely the FBI’s guiding principles of “Fidelity, Bravery and Integrity.”

    The Russia collusion fabrication and deceptive sale to the public is a travesty that shouldn’t be forgotten. That Washington’s establishment refuses to acknowledge its role in this deceit is one reason so many Americans don’t trust public ins utions. It will take years for honest public servants to undo the damage, but the Durham accounting is a start.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/john-du...nzp0djm9jss66p
    yet more purple prose, I'm sorry for your loss.

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    This one failed harder for him than pizzagate and Q.

    Maybe one day he'll learn.

    Trump’s campaign manager, son and son in law actively attempted to collude with Russian agents. That's cause enough for a years long investigation.

    Didn't one of those guys go to prison?


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    I'm not talking about having a greater scope to prosecute I'm talking about greater access to evidence and ability to compel testimony and why one conclusion holds greater weight over the other.

    It's sad watching you try and spin this I thought you were better than this.
    im honestly just waiting for a special counsel to be appointed to investigate why the FBI felt perfectly comfortable airing all of clinton's laundry during her campaign including literally weeks before the election making some big announcement about her investigation, and all the while trump's campaign was being actively investigated but nary a peep for him until after the election was over

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    im honestly just waiting for a special counsel to be appointed to investigate why the FBI felt perfectly comfortable airing all of clinton's laundry during her campaign including literally weeks before the election making some big announcement about her investigation, and all the while trump's campaign was being actively investigated but nary a peep for him until after the election was over
    Why?…you wouldn’t get an answer to your question. Both Comey and McCabe refused to speak with the Special Counsel. I want to know why McCabe shut down three investigations into the Clinton Foundation during her presidential campaign.

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    yet more purple prose, I'm sorry for your loss.
    What loss?

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    Your Russian conspiracy-conspiracy turned out to be a wet fart. Durham folded up without additional criminal referrals or recommending big reforms. He even thought there should have been a preliminary investigation.

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    Is there a single democrat here willing to admit they were wrong and that the Crossfire Hurricane investigation should have never been opened?

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    Is there a single democrat here willing to admit they were wrong and that the Crossfire Hurricane investigation should have never been opened?

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    TSA mad

    This one failed harder for him than pizzagate and Q.

    Maybe one day he'll learn.

    Trump’s campaign manager, son and son in law actively attempted to collude with Russian agents. That's cause enough for a years long investigation.

    Didn't one of those guys go to prison?

    Durham’s report SLAMMED the FBI and the Justice Department with this recommendation: “This report does not recommend any wholesale changes in the guidelines and policies that the Department and FBI now have in place to ensure proper conduct and accountability in how counterintelligence activities are carried out.”

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    Your Russian conspiracy-conspiracy turned out to be a wet fart. Durham folded up without additional criminal referrals or recommending big reforms. He even thought there should have been a preliminary investigation.
    He exposed the Clinton campaign's election interference and the FBI's willingness to help. He exposed the entire plot of a biased FBI leadership trying to take down a duly elected President. He exposed the media for being a willing participant in trying to take down a duly elected President. If you can't see that you're just a dishonest hack.

    Hard to get criminal referrals when the main culprits refuse to be interviewed.

    Peter Strzok
    Bill Priestap
    James Comey
    Andrew McCabe
    Kevin Clinesmith
    Rodney Joffe
    Marc Elias
    Glenn Simpson

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    He exposed the Clinton campaign's election interference and the FBI's willingness to help. He exposed the entire plot of a biased FBI leadership trying to take down a duly elected President. He exposed the media for being a willing participant in trying to take down a duly elected President. If you can't see that you're just a dishonest hack.

    Hard to get criminal referrals when the main culprits refuse to be interviewed.

    Peter Strzok
    Bill Priestap
    James Comey
    Andrew McCabe
    Kevin Clinesmith
    Rodney Joffe
    Marc Elias
    Glenn Simpson
    if you dont agree with my partisan hackery, then you're just a dishonest hack

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    bUt ThE iNvEsTiGaTiOn wAs PrOpErLy pReDiCaTeD.

    I thought you of all people would have had the balls after reading the report to at least admit there never should have been an investigation...but no, you are just like the rest of the pathetic hacks here.
    hahahahahahaha!

    OPINIONS are like assholes - everyone has one and they all stink!

    his OPINION

    why didn't he charge and CONVICT ANYONE????

    WHY?

    Because he did not find the CRIME OF THE CENTURY!
    tHE BIGGEST scandal THE WORLd has ever seen......lie lie conspiracy lie lie



    Trump is a traitor and if DURHAM indicted /charged/convicted ZERO CRIMINALS!!!!
    THEN it was all a ing lie for idiots like you to look at the SQUIRREL!!!!!

    LOOK OVER THERE!!!!
    SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN!
    DEEEEEEP STATE!!!!

    STFU

    here is the truth: He asked russia to attack another usa citizen - 5 hours later russia did - IN PUBLIC!!!!!!

    Trump at helsinki told the world he is on russias side -IN PUBLIC!!!!

    Only stupid assholes like you believe dear leader OVER YOUR LYING EYES!!!!!


    hahahahahahaha!



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    Durham’s report SLAMMED the FBI and the Justice Department with this recommendation: “This report does not recommend any wholesale changes in the guidelines and policies that the Department and FBI now have in place to ensure proper conduct and accountability in how counterintelligence activities are carried out.”
    “The promulgation of additional rules and regulations to be learned in yet more training sessions would likely prove to be a fruitless exercise if the FBI’s guiding principles of ‘Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity’ are not engrained in the hearts and minds of those sworn to meet the FBI’s mission of ‘Protect[ing] the American People and uphold[ing] the Cons ution of the United States,'” Durham concluded. “The answer is not the creation of new rules but a renewed fidelity to the old.”

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    On the other hand

    SEVERAL TRUMP ADMIN KUNTS CONVICTED!


    BOOM!

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    He exposed the Clinton campaign's election interference and the FBI's willingness to help. He exposed the entire plot of a biased FBI leadership trying to take down a duly elected President. He exposed the media for being a willing participant in trying to take down a duly elected President. If you can't see that you're just a dishonest hack.

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    if you dont agree with my partisan hackery, then you're just a dishonest hack
    Should the Crossfire Hurricane investigation have been opened? yes or no.

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    Should the Crossfire Hurricane investigation have been opened? yes or no.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    ING YES - ASSHOLE THERE WERE MANY CONVICTIONS IN A COURT OF LAW WHERE IT REALLY COUNTS


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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    “The promulgation of additional rules and regulations to be learned in yet more training sessions would likely prove to be a fruitless exercise if the FBI’s guiding principles of ‘Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity’ are not engrained in the hearts and minds of those sworn to meet the FBI’s mission of ‘Protect[ing] the American People and uphold[ing] the Cons ution of the United States,'” Durham concluded. “The answer is not the creation of new rules but a renewed fidelity to the old.”
    Winning them DOJ and FBI hearts and minds!

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    Should the Crossfire Hurricane investigation have been opened? yes or no.
    yep

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    Should the Crossfire Hurricane investigation have been opened? yes or no.
    Sure, why not? People get investigated for less all the time.

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    The only thing he didn't say was that it was meant to overthrow a duly elected President, that was inferred.
    thanks for revealing your bias.


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    He exposed the Clinton campaign's election interference and the FBI's willingness to help. He exposed the entire plot of a biased FBI leadership trying to take down a duly elected President. He exposed the media for being a willing participant in trying to take down a duly elected President. If you can't see that you're just a dishonest hack.

    Hard to get criminal referrals when the main culprits refuse to be interviewed.

    Peter Strzok
    Bill Priestap
    James Comey
    Andrew McCabe
    Kevin Clinesmith
    Rodney Joffe
    Marc Elias
    Glenn Simpson


    hahahahaha!

    were you clutching your pearlz when ALL the traitors in trumps treason gang

    lied to the fbi
    broke their agreements to testify against trump
    were promised pardons to keep lying about trump and russia
    admitted to lying to the fbi- pled guilty then turned around and reneged and had bill barr try to overturn their convictions?
    said the trump tower mtg was about “adoptions” with RUSSIANS


    hahahahahahaha!

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    Papadapolous talking to some Australian diplomats did not satisfy the requirements for a full investigation.

    d. Full investigation
    The standard for opening a full investigation is "an articulable factual basis for the
    investigation that reasonably indicates that ... [a]n activity cons uting a federal crime or a
    threat to the national security ... is or may be occurring ... and the investigation may obtain
    information relating to the activity.''76 The DIOG gives as examples of sufficient predication to
    open a fuil investigation:
    • "[C]orroborated information from an intelligence agency" stating "that an individual is a
    member of a terrorist group."
    • "(A]n analyst discovers on a blog a threat to a specific home builder and additional
    information connecting the blogger to a known terrorist group." 77
    The FBI may use "all lawful methods" in a full investigation, including court-authorized
    electronic surveillance and physical searches. 78

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    Sure, why not? People get investigated for less all the time.
    Who are these people that the FBI opens full investigations on all the time based on hearsay?

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    thanks for revealing your bias.

    If not to overthrow the Presidency what other conclusion can be drawn from the actions of the FBI?

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