First, let me start off by saying that I agree with those advocating for the Spurs to not start spending money like crazy and giving away assets.
With that said, I don't think it's smart for PATFO to just stand around with their thumbs up their asses either. For once, it's time to stop losing. There's only so much losing guys like Keldon, Vassell and Sochan can take before start doubting themselves and start building a losing culture and bad habits. And, then, I don't think Wembanyama will be cool with losing 60/50 games, rookie season be dammned.
So, with that in mind, I think the best thing to do is to get some veteran players in short deals that help raise the floor of this team and help with the development of the young prospects in a non-losing environment, but also, don't hurt the long-term plans. Enter Chris Paul.
The rumour about CP3 is that the Suns want to get rid of him. With only 2 years left on his contract, the Spurs have the cap space and time window to take on that contract. If the rumours are true, and the Suns want to get rid of Paul (there's even buzz about him getting waived), the Spurs wouldn't need to give up anything other than cap space for a couple of seasons.
Chris Paul isn't helpful on a championship aspiring team because he just can't stay healthy on the playoffs, But, for a team that just wants to compete while having a leader for the younger guys, CP3 is almost perfect.
CP3, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Wemby. Add a couple more productive veterans off the bench and the Spurs could easily become a play-in team. I don't know what you guys think. To me, it makes too much sense.
I tend to agree. We saw with the 76ers that they were so committed to losing for so long that when it came time for them to start winning it was a difficult adjustment. Ushering in a losing culture creates rot in your organization. And young players definitely need successful mentors to look up to.
Plus, I'm a huge fan of Chris Paul. I was a season ticket holder when he played his rookie season in Oklahoma City and I'd love to be able to cheer for him again.
depends on what the expected trade framework looks like. we have the cap room this year with no amazing options at the position. im also cant help but chuckle when thinking about a scenario where we use 2024 cap space to sign dejounte though
I think it’s a good idea to pick up a vet or two, but CP3 may not be a great fit. And I mean that exactly how I said it. He’s alienated quite a few teammates over the years by being demanding and whiny. I wouldn’t bet a young player’s self esteem on Chris Paul’s opinion of him.
Stealth case for Paul is a three for one roster consolidation. McDermott, Graham, and Birch for Paul opens up a couple roster spots and actually saves the team a small amount of money on this season's payroll. Since Paul is non-guaranteed next year, it could save us money on future payrolls too. I'm not sure the Suns could talk themselves into McDermott and Graham unless they were also moving Ayton for VanVleet.
I'm only taking CP3 if we got something for taking on his contract. Otherwise Tre Jones is a good enough PG. I understand CP3 raises the floor of a team and his 2024/25 salary is not guaranteed. But his playing style doesn't fit ours. CP3 slows the offense down and we are clearly trying to run a fast pace offense. Filling the roster with vets makes no sense to me unless they end of the bench guys like Gorgui Dieng was. The young guys need playing time and we have plenty of them.
Depends on trade framework. Not sure he wants it though. I would imagine if he got traded to us or a non-championship team, he could ask to be waived, though he does want his money
Imagine signing Poeltl this summer and Murray next. I don't know if teams would deal with SA ever again.
But no, I don't think the Spurs should spend a max on a complimentary piece like Murray unless he was the missing piece. It would be hard to imagine them getting to a point where that would be the case in one year.
Nope. The Spurs need to continue to develop a free-flowing offense. Wemby is not a finisher; he's a creator. Let the guys continue to figure themselves out. I don't think the team needs a lead guard, but I'd be more amenable to a scoring/shooting lead than a facilitator. I think Graham and Branham will fit in quite well. Wesley, we'll have to see about.
NO!
I don't understand why people are so bent on us having some ball dominant point guard to hand the ball to Wemby like he is some child who never played basketball before. The offense is going to run through Wemby and Sochan...as in they are going to be the primary initiators for plays that we run. Since they don't want Wemby playing the 5 right out the gate to start games...and since Sochan showed so much promise last year, I would be shocked of Sochan is just not flat out the point guard to start the season and the spurs are just going to run with that and take it from there.
Can’t stand Chris Paul. Would hate him dawning the Silver & Black tbh. Hard pass.
Make a pitch for Leonard. He’s got a opt out in summer 2024
I can understand not wanting to get a ball-dominant PG. I can't get behind the Sochan at PG experiment, though. If we want to maximize Sochan's potential, making him the full-time PG isn't it, tbh. He just doesn't have the first step, playmaking, shooting or shot creation for it. Sochan's value is that he's a good playmaker FOR A FORWARD, but you would be taking that away if you play him as the starting PG. The best version of Sochan would likely be a Draymond Green type. A secondary ball-handler that is DPoY level.
Playing these tall guys with no shooting at PG just because they can handle the ball a little doesn't work in today's NBA. It hasn't worked with Ben Simmons, who supposedly has been a PG all his life, and it hasn't worked with Giannis either, who's probably the best player in the World right now. If Giannis couldn't make the non-shooting point forward work, nobody can.
Last edited by DAF86; 05-17-2023 at 08:06 PM.
In theory I like the idea of an old PG hand like Conley, but the offense is structured on moving the ball and an aging CP3 doesn't seem like it's a fit. I doubt he wants to spend his last couple groin pulls on a fringe play-in and fringe playoff team.
I like this. Let's get Kawhi back. Pipedream I know but I'd be down.
I'd take him for vet minimum in a 2013 T-Mac role just to humble his dumbass
Sign NANDO DE COLO!! Jk I know it’s wild but wasn’t there a rumor the spurs were interested in Isaiah Thomas? Lol I think just bringing in a solid vet even if he doesn’t play should suffice.
I just look forward to when Wemby swats Kawhi a couple of times.
If Wemby and Sochan are going to be our primary ball handlers/facilitators then I'm interested in someone like Jordan Poole, tbh, despite his recent playoff performance.
Too early, the guy only plays once a week in France. Conditioning and adapting to NBA physicality is the only priority in year 1.
Seth Curry might be interesting, bring back Patty lol
I really get the idea and can see some merit, but the target shouldn't be CP3. I'm not sure who it should be, but not him. Far to ball dominant, a liability on defense and no good off the ball.
can you explain the part where it hasnt worked with giannis when he has a championship and is a 2 time mvp?
Get out of here. You want Mo Cheeks living at the La Quinta by the airport?
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