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    Word around Mavs trying to move #10 either to get an upgrade or unload a bad contract like Bert or Hardaway.
    I doubt they give up #10 for a cap absorption but that is exactly the kind of thing we should do with our cap space. I don’t think there’s any big time FA this summer that we’d likely target but using up the cap to continue building our war chest is smart.

    Overpaying seems to be the new normal. The more assets we have the easier it’ll be to add a piece that we really like.

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    Word around Mavs trying to move #10 either to get an upgrade or unload a bad contract like Bert or Hardaway.
    if that's all they want we should jump on it. Then again I doubt that they would trade #10 just to get rid of salary

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    id be on the phone with dallas if black was still available at 10

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    id be on the phone with dallas if black was still available at 10

    I think that would work. Not sure the kind of deal to be worked out there. Sure dallas would push for Keldon or someone else of value more than just dumping Bertans.

    But if there is a player that works with us for #10 and get Bertans back (familiar with the team, can shoot it, etc). Not a horrible idea. He's got 1 or 2 years left?

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    id be on the phone with dallas if black was still available at 10
    100%. I'd do it for Bufkin. Possibly for Cason.

    I don't think Dallas only wants to shed salary. That's remarkably expensive use of a #10 pick. They need a player or other draft capital. I don't think the #33 is enough, but something along those lines. It's a package I'm intrigued by, in any case.

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    100%. I'd do it for Bufkin. Possibly for Cason.

    I don't think Dallas only wants to shed salary. That's remarkably expensive use of a #10 pick. They need a player or other draft capital. I don't think the #33 is enough, but something along those lines. It's a package I'm intrigued by, in any case.
    id give the hornets pick. i think its fairly likely to convey, but it also will never be higher than 15 anyway. now if they also wanted a player back to help them now, it becomes more complicated. because sure, instead of the pick, we can send a player back, but then they're not really saving salary anyway

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    100%. I'd do it for Bufkin. Possibly for Cason.

    I don't think Dallas only wants to shed salary. That's remarkably expensive use of a #10 pick. They need a player or other draft capital. I don't think the #33 is enough, but something along those lines. It's a package I'm intrigued by, in any case.
    Surely not, and even then they don't seem to have terrible contracts on their roster (2 more years of Hardway and Bertans). With that said, if they do want to dump either of them and sell the pick, the Spurs do have a combination of expiring contracts (McDermott, Graham, Birch), role players (Zach Collins, Tre Jones), future firsts, boatloads of seconds (useful for future trades and flexibility)... I don't know that any of that is enough in itself, but some combination of it may work in a 3 way deal.

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    Surely not, and even then they don't seem to have terrible contracts on their roster (2 more years of Hardway and Bertans). With that said, if they do want to dump either of them and sell the pick, the Spurs do have a combination of expiring contracts (McDermott, Graham, Birch), role players (Zach Collins, Tre Jones), future firsts, boatloads of seconds (useful for future trades and flexibility)... I don't know that any of that is enough in itself, but some combination of it may work in a 3 way deal.
    They really do seem to want to dump salary. At least the idea is getting floated in their local media. The pick outright for dumping salary? No. But, damn it, I'm gonna get obsessed with this possibility and it's never gonna happen

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    Dallas is trying to build a team around Luka now. So they want players ready to help win now more than rookie/draft capital.

    If they were interested in Graham + Charlotte pick, I'd do it.

    I think McDermott becomes more important with Wemby now.

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    There was an Athletic article that proposed: Keldon + CHA 1st for pick 5 from DET

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    There was an Athletic article that proposed: Keldon + CHA 1st for pick 5 from DET
    Amazing to see the national sports media give a about the Spurs now.

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    10895626[/URL]]Dallas is trying to build a team around Luka now. So they want players ready to help win now more than rookie/draft capital.

    If they were interested in Graham + Charlotte pick, I'd do it.

    I think McDermott becomes more important with Wemby now.
    McNuggets is never more important in any scenario. He’s just a floor spacing shooter.

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    McNuggets is never more important in any scenario. He’s just a floor spacing shooter.
    He'll be a very good trade asset at the deadline

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    Dallas is trying to build a team around Luka now. So they want players ready to help win now more than rookie/draft capital.

    If they were interested in Graham + Charlotte pick, I'd do it.

    I think McDermott becomes more important with Wemby now.
    It might provide Dallas with more flexibility. They could take whatever pics we trade them and use them to target a player they feel might be an ideal fit.

    They wouldn’t do that at the trade deadline but now in the offseason it’s not so much of a problem.

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    There was an Athletic article that proposed: Keldon + CHA 1st for pick 5 from DET
    I think any move into the top 10 will require one of the Atlanta picks tbh. Cam, Walker, and Hendricks all seem like really good fits for DET @ 5.

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    I wonder if there's a 3 team scenario with SA/PHX/DAL:
    -PHX gets Kyrie via S&T
    -DAL gets Ayton and another rotation player, maybe a heavily protected Spurs pick
    -Spurs get #10 to facilitate and maybe CP3 w/o giving up Keldon

    Spurs buy out CP3 or move him again later in the summer...

    Probably way too many moving parts to become reality. But Spurs should absolutely weaponize their cap space to pick up assets this offseason when there's a very poor FA class.

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    One thing to keep in mind is that with the new second tax apron kicking in summer of 2024, there will be an urgency to do some some stuff that if it doesn't get done, the new rules will prohibit it next year. Salary dumping could become a free for all. Pick # 10 sounds like a good pick, but it's really marginal, and might not be too high a price for maybe taking both of Dallas's bad contracts. It just seems odd that we are working out top 10 players with no other top 10 pick.

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    One thing to keep in mind is that with the new second tax apron kicking in summer of 2024, there will be an urgency to do some some stuff that if it doesn't get done, the new rules will prohibit it next year. Salary dumping could become a free for all. Pick # 10 sounds like a good pick, but it's really marginal, and might not be too high a price for maybe taking both of Dallas's bad contracts. It just seems odd that we are working out top 10 players with no other top 10 pick.
    Would be interesting for the spurs to add another top 10 pick but every single year the spurs do this, they’re just doing their due diligence

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    The Spurs should be able to absorb a contract like Bertans outright (i.e. without sending any salary back) on draft night because it's not expiring, right?

    But did Dallas really do that blatant tank and draw the ire of the league just to use the #10 to dump salary? I doubt it.

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    One thing to keep in mind is that with the new second tax apron kicking in summer of 2024, there will be an urgency to do some some stuff that if it doesn't get done, the new rules will prohibit it next year. Salary dumping could become a free for all. Pick # 10 sounds like a good pick, but it's really marginal, and might not be too high a price for maybe taking both of Dallas's bad contracts. It just seems odd that we are working out top 10 players with no other top 10 pick.
    This may be due diligence. Here's a chance to talk to the top players in the draft. This can matter down the line and is pretty common.

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    Don't know about Dallas real intentions but I would expect them to want some pick(s) and/or a player for #10, I have a hard time imagining them shopping it just to get rid of two bad contracts...

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    One thing to keep in mind is that with the new second tax apron kicking in summer of 2024, there will be an urgency to do some some stuff that if it doesn't get done, the new rules will prohibit it next year. Salary dumping could become a free for all. Pick # 10 sounds like a good pick, but it's really marginal, and might not be too high a price for maybe taking both of Dallas's bad contracts. It just seems odd that we are working out top 10 players with no other top 10 pick.
    I don't know Dallas tax situation. Is clearing those contracts gonna really free up that much money for them?

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    Don't know about Dallas real intentions but I would expect them to want some pick(s) and/or a player for #10, I have a hard time imagining them shopping it just to get rid of two bad contracts...
    Yeah, it's definitely not to just dump salary.

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    What teams actually have cap room this summer?

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    Would be interesting for the spurs to add another top 10 pick but every single year the spurs do this, they’re just doing their due diligence
    Every single years the spurs have massive draft pick hauls that they must spend?

    Getting wemby is worth 5-8 FRP. Building around him shouldn't be the passed, and roster limits mean the draft picks of the future are worth far less to the team. They have to make deals now to soon

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