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That's not going to be the reason they do this trade. They will stretch players like Bertans before they give up a high pick to trade him. Ex is overplaying the leverage a team like the Spurs would have.
He gets it.
That's not going to be the reason they do this trade. They will stretch players like Bertans before they give up a high pick to trade him. Ex is overplaying the leverage a team like the Spurs would have.
So we're saying Dallas would dump salaries for future picks? Or dump salaries for KJ plus?
I don't think the Nets intend on moving him, but teams are askin'
If taking on Bertans and Hardaway gets you #10, then ot begs the question: does #10 + Keldon get you up to #3 or maybe even #2 if you give Charlotte their 1st back?
I didn't think we could get that high with paying a kings ransom, but there may be a path there?
Interesting... if we could put together something around Keldon that would be interesting...
I have no idea. But I feel like there's going to be a feeding frenzy around those picks, driving up the costs. If Dallas values dumping contracts, those teams won't. I think we have to keep in mind fanbases and how responsive owners and GMs are to the fans. If Dallas comes away from the draft only dumping contracts (and some nebulous future picks), they're going to get slammed.
My feeling is that the 3 or 2 are going to require a current player and a few picks.
He may be overplaying it, but it's hard to get a feel for how this new CBA effects a team like Dallas next summer.
Taking on Bertans and Hardaway doesn't get you 10, but Keldon plus 10 would likely get Portland's attention as the continue to rebuild without Lillard's notice.
They don't want salary back, even for a young prospect like Keldon.
I really think you have to include Keldon or similar in the trade to Dallas. They need to come away with a current player or draft pick.
Like I said to Chinook, I don't understand the impacts of the new CBA enough to really analyze how it's gonna effect these teams next summer. Hopefully one of the guys here who follow that sort of thing can give is a breakdown on that...
Certainly some teams have to worry. But Dallas doesn't. They only have one big long-term contract. The penalties Ex was highlighting were for repeat offenders. They wouldn't even need to stretch anyone, though that'd be an option to stay under next year
If Dallas just wants to clear salary and not get a current player, then other teams with space are more likely candidates -- Indiana or Utah, for example, who can give them a later pick or two.
Does maxing out Kyrie change that formula for them?
They'd be crazy to move him. I'd love him on the Spurs, unfortunately I don't think the timelines match.
I thought I heard that the Nets were absolutely in love with Mikal and were looking to build around him. But smokescreens happen.
They'd have to walk away from Kyrie.
That's my feeling, too. I'm in the BKN market. I think they love what they see and there's potential for a star there.
Bridges is also not a , which is a major improvement over the last few years.
They aren't in a position where they need to ditch expiring contracts to keep Kyrie. They can be over the apron one year and then slip under or be under for a couple of years and slip over. Both Hardaway Bertans expire after this year. Dallas had plenty of ways to manage their space without paying to dump one of them.
To clarify, the second apron starts in 2024/25, not this summer. So that freezing penalty wouldn't kick in until 2025/26. Dallas as a high bill this year but basically no one signed that far out. They can dodge the second apron pretty easily and don't need to be forced into a bad trade.
GS or LAC might.
hardaway is under contract for 2 more seasons, fyi
Hardaway goes thru 2024-2025 and Bertans has $5M guaranteed that second season.
I'm just curious how you think they're going "slip under" the tax in 2024. They will be over the second apron next summer, well over if they sign Irving. They can't attach cash to ANY trades, starting that summer. They can't make a trade that is even one dollar more for the incoming player. They can't aggregate players in a trade. They can't trade their FRP 7 years out (2031), even if it's clear, and the clock starts on it dropping to the end of the 2031 first round if they are in the second apron even ONE year out of the next three. If they are over the next summer, that 2031 pick automatically drops to the end of the first round no matter their record because the 2 in 4 years penalty is met, and their 2032 pick is now on the clock.
The rules are different next summer. This is their last get out of jail free summer period where the old rules apply.
"This year" means 2024/25 in the context of that post. That's the first year the second apron comes into effect.
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