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I don't think there's any chance of it whatsoever.
Scoot has a chance to be a star and franchise player. Keldon, although he's a very solid player, doesn't.
I'm so tempted on trying this. Keldon and a future 1st round pick. Would be Hornets go for this? They would technically be getting 2 first rounds for the price of one.
I don't think there's any chance of it whatsoever.
Scoot has a chance to be a star and franchise player. Keldon, although he's a very solid player, doesn't.
send them a few 2's and have them lift protections on 2025
Yeah, it probably wouldn't be enough. What about Keldon, a first round pick and giving them bsck their top 14 protected one? I know Scoot has potential but he's far from a sure thing. He also doesn't fit with Lamelo. Getting a 20 ppg wingmen on a great deal and 2 future 1st might be enough. In any case, there's a trade to be made there. It just depends on how many picks the Hornets would want and how many the Spurs are willing to give up.
The Spurs definitely can be in the mix if they want. I just think other teams are going to come for the pick, too, and it's going to get costly. The thing I keep pressing is that teams/GMs/owners have to come away from drafts with something flashy. I remember NYK fans going bonkers when they drafted Porzingis. I don't think Charlotte can come away with just Keldon Johnson and future draft picks. Not for a guy people have been claiming is a possible superstar.
That's really not that far-fetched and something spurs certainly have in the back of therr minds. If, and he def will, Wemby is the real thing, some superstars will understand you can build a dynasty there. 7 years in, Luka is still ringless, if Vic becomes the face of the NBA, luka (as well as some other superstar) might want to make the best of his last prime years.
Im all for moving a player if it brings back an extremely high value prospect like Scoot. Otherwise I’d rather run with productive players like Vassell and Keldon while building more organically.
One common theme with all these trades that leverage the house for disgruntled star players is that most end up just being disgruntled people and a change of scenery doesn’t fix anything. This era of superstars is the most en led group ever. You gotta pamper these guys.
I’d rather have a bunch of good guys like Keldon than a Kyrie or Ja. Obviously there are good guys like Embiid, Jokic, Giannis etc but we’re not landing that stuff and almost all of these potential stars aren’t concerned with winning rings. They’re concerned with building their brand and legacy money.
Wemby will be a celebrity but he comes off as way less of a princess despite the entourage.
Just make sure we got enough picks for 2024 to draft Bronny James so we can sign LeBron and pair him with Wemby in 2025. Bron would even welcome that given that he needs another 2 rings for his legacy so people can’t say Jordan has more. Not that I like him, but it’s for the greater good of the franchise and Wemby would get his ring ASAP like he wants to
Getting both Wemby and Scoot would be reminiscent of when both Robinson and Elliott shared their rookie season due to David's Navy commitment.
We might have 3 first round draft licks next year so I hate to say it but it’s actually a possibility that just might happen
Joe Harris is another. He’s expiring but Nets may be paying tax again this year for a meh team assuming they keep Johnson, don’t waive Dinwiddle, and retain Seth Curry. May want to dump his 19M. They also have Suns FRPs.
Something like Harris + Patty + FRP for Birch and a few seconds.
Being lazy to look it up...is Seth Curry available? Would love to see him in silver and black.
at this point, the most valuable draft assets the spurs have are probably the hawks picsk. the spurs trajectory with wemby is pointing up. meanwhile, nobody knows what the hawks will look like in 25 let alone 27
think to move up to 2, you have to give up keldon, 1 hawks pick, and probably give the hornets their protected pick back. they would also love that pick back because the running protections limits their ability to move other picks if they want to make moves
remember, you are getting them to bypass a potential star. its going to take more than keldon and 1 pick that may or may not be top 5
I'm with you fellas.
It makes more sense to package picks in future drafts to move up as opposed to trading three picks just to get back in. We have 33 and 50 to move up from this year.
Last edited by FuzzyLumpkins; 05-18-2023 at 08:28 PM.
Keldon and an unprotected first isn't getting you #2 in a strong draft, no way in .
I would rather get a highly rated SF/SG then a PG...
That's way too cheap. Probably have to throw Sochan into that deal too.
Yeah, I think people are underselling what it will take to get the 2.
100%.
Keldon, another young player (Branham?) 2 x ATL picks, the Toronto pick and lifting the protections on the Charlotte pick would be the starting point.
Do you think a second pick is worth more than an actual all star (DJM)?
Definitely. DJM was a replacement player in the All Star game from memory and Scoot is one of the more hyped guard prospects I can recall. I would be absolutely shocked if the pick was traded for less than the DJM haul.
One thing that no one has said yet:
Everyone in the league ing hates us right now, and will do nothing to help us.
Expect to be asked $2 on the dollar for anything. Then, be smart and don’t pay it.
When we spend those picks a year or two down the road, I hope it’s on an All Star, not a prospect.
He’s a proven commodity. Scoot isn’t, and his path to s om, as a small guard, is rocky.
I love Scoot.... I wouldn’t pay that for him though.... that's to much..
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