Should Spurs make a run at Scoot?

[jjspur]

Scoot would require too much in a trade imo. I'd target Immanuel Quickey before I'd make a run at Scoot. Quickley is still young, undervalued, inexpensive, and has the chance to be very good-- and even if he doesn't evolve into "very good," he's established for three straight years that he has a big net positive impact on winning. Plus the Knicks are overloaded at the guard positions, and might just be dumb enough to trade him.

I was thinking someone like Josh Giddey, but Quickley from the knicks is a really good alternative that probably would not cost 3 or 4 #1 picks.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs really have good back-up point and in-a-pinch point options. Tre Jones is probably a better pure point than Immanuel Quickley, although IQ looks nice. If the Spurs target a lead guard, it needs to be a guy they think can take the 1 spot as a starter.

[Obstructed_View]

Do massively athletic guys who can't shoot make it in the NBA? Devin Booker and Jamaal Murray weren't regarded as incredible athletes. Good shooters seem to be the ones who do well as pros.

[Mnky]

You're referring to the Thunder as a possible deal for a main ball handler. We don't need one.

Incorrect. Referring to the thunder having the best assets to make a move with Portland, but already having ball handlers so Scoot wouldn't make a ton of sense for that move unless the blazers are getting one of those players back from them.

[BacktoBasics]

Incorrect. Referring to the thunder having the best assets to make a move with Portland, but already having ball handlers so Scoot wouldn't make a ton of sense for that move unless the blazers are getting one of those players back from them.

No reason to go after Scoot with SGA. Miller would look nice on the OKC roster tbh

[spursparker9]

Do massively athletic guys who can't shoot make it in the NBA? Devin Booker and Jamaal Murray weren't regarded as incredible athletes. Good shooters seem to be the ones who do well as pros.

Well, Nephew couldn't shoot when he was a rookie...There is always potential for improvement. It just depend on the culture of the team and also the player's desire to be the very best version of himself

[Ariel]

Have we given up on Blake Wesley? What are yalls thoughts on his potential?

Wesley was always a project, a long term gamble at 25 where there weren't better options really:

25. Spurs draft Blake Wesley (Notre Dame)
26. Mavericks draft Wendell Moore Jr. (Duke) — Traded to MIN
27. Heat draft Nikola Jovic (Mega Mozzart)
28. Warriors draft Patrick Baldwin Jr. (Milwaukee)
29. Grizzlies draft TyTy Washington Jr. (Kentucky) — Traded to HOU
30. Thunder draft Peyton Watson (UCLA) — Traded to DEN
31. Pacers draft Andrew Nembhard (Gonzaga)
32. Magic draft Caleb Houstan (Michigan)
33. Raptors draft Christian Koloko (Arizona)
34. Thunder draft Jaylin Williams (Arkansas)
35. Lakers draft Max Christie (Michigan State)
36. Blazers draft Gabriele Procida (For udo Bologna) — Traded to DET
37. Kings draft Jaden Hardy (G League Ignite) — Traded to DAL
38. Spurs draft Kennedy Chandler (Tennessee) — Traded to MEM
39. Cavaliers draft Khalifa Diop (Gran Canaria)
40. Timberwolves draft Bryce McGowens (Nebraska) — Traded to CHA
41. Pelicans draft EJ Liddell (Ohio State)
42. Knicks draft Trevor Keels (Duke)
43. Clippers draft Moussa Diabate (Michigan)
44. Hawks draft Ryan Rollins (Toldeo) — Traded to GSW
45. Hornets draft Josh Minott (Memphis) — Traded to MIN
46. Pistons draft Ismael Kamagate (Paris Basketball) — Traded to POR
47. Grizzlies draft Vince Williams Jr. (VCU)
48. Timberwolves draft Kendall Brown (Baylor) — Traded to IND
49. Cavaliers draft Isaiah Mobley (USC)
50. Timberwolves draft Matteo Spagnolo (Vanoli Cremona)
51. Warriors draft Tyrese Martin (UConn) — Traded to ATL
52. Pelicans draft Karlo Matković (Mega Mozzart)
53. Celtics draft JD Davison (Alabama)
— Milwaukee (forfeited)
— Miami (forfeited)
54. Wizards draft Yannick Nzosa (Unicaja Malaga)
55. Warriors draft Gui Santos (Minas)
56. Cavaliers draft Luke Travers (Perth)
57. Blazers draft Jabari Walker (Colorado)
58. Pacers draft Hugo Besson (New Zealand Breakers) — Reportedly traded to MIL

Of the bunch, I'd say only Nembhard is clearly better in hindsight, but he's 3 years older. Blake is athletically gifted, level headed and hard working, We shouldn't count on him, but give him a couple of years to see what he can grow into. If he does, great. If not, no biggie, it was still a sensible gamble at that spot.

[Mr. Body]

Wesley was always a project, a long term gamble at 25 where there weren't better options really:

Of the bunch, I'd say only Nembhard is clearly better in hindsight, but he's 3 years older. Blake is athletically gifted, level headed and hard working, We shouldn't count on him, but give him a couple of years to see what he can grow into. If he does, great. If not, no biggie, it was still a sensible gamble at that spot.

Good thoughts. I also agree that only Nembhard is the potential 'miss' here. Although we haven't seen Liddel, he's not a fit any more. Wesley was a good swing and has potential.

[Ariel]

This is a good distinction. We really don’t want a ball dominant pg. particularly a ball dominant scoring pg. Black looks like the perfect fit but I wouldn’t give up Keldon. We have a productive core worth keeping until something significantly bigger is available.

I have no issue packaging up picks for Black. I don’t even mind over paying for Black. Just not Keldon, Vassell, Sochan and probably not Malaki either.

Wemby + Sochan + Black + time together = no need for PG

[Chucho]

I dont understand any scenario short of a top 5-10 player coming into play, why the Spurs would or should give up or trade either of Vasell or KJ. Having two 20 ppg whom combined are cheaper than 1 veteran 20 ppg scorer seemd like a rare luxury in today's NBA.

I also dont understand why so many fans think we arent a PO squad as is, especially with the "most hyped prospect in all of team sports" has been secured, we have two 20 ppg scorers and a game-altering hustler in JS and a couple of good rotation players and a PG who rarely turns the ball over.

I dont see how we arent a PO team and there's more value having Wemby and Co.getting some playoff basketball in their blood as opposed to having a cautious season, hoping for a better 1st round pick when we already have a solid amount for ourselves and as bargaining chips.

See what we got, let the team be naturally compe ive. This will help lure more higher quality free agents to San Antonio.

The West is going to be open next year. Dallas already looks poised to be the new Chernobyl for the next Kyrie toxic meltdown. If the Lakers get swept, King is leaving town and Anthony Davis is a broken down part timer. Ja Morant is probably cooked for most, if not all of next season. The Clippers are a 1st round bounce at best, but knowing Kawhi, hee could just randomly retire like tomorrow.

If the guys already here and figured in take steps forward, we pick up a few younger vets we dont anchor to for long commitments, I would see anything less than the 6th seed as a bad season.

[kht]

Free Agents should be licking their chops to come to SA.

[exstatic]

No argument there. Honestly we have no idea who the FO is even interested in at this point. For me. Thankfully the FO is shrewd.

We need that more than anything right now.

These teams that make big moves rarely end well.

No team that pushed their pile of chips in the last 12 months even made it out of the second round.

[Obstructed_View]

Well, Nephew couldn't shoot when he was a rookie...There is always potential for improvement. It just depend on the culture of the team and also the player's desire to be the very best version of himself

I don't remember a time that he couldn't shoot. Kawhi became a great shooter as a pro, but he was a good shooter in college. ESPN did a thing on his shooting consistency when he was a rookie.

Now I do remember that he couldn't dribble when he was a rookie and he was running point within a couple of years.

[RC_Drunkford]

I dont understand any scenario short of a top 5-10 player coming into play, why the Spurs would or should give up or trade either of Vasell or KJ. Having two 20 ppg whom combined are cheaper than 1 veteran 20 ppg scorer seemd like a rare luxury in today's NBA.

I also dont understand why so many fans think we arent a PO squad as is, especially with the "most hyped prospect in all of team sports" has been secured, we have two 20 ppg scorers and a game-altering hustler in JS and a couple of good rotation players and a PG who rarely turns the ball over.

I dont see how we arent a PO team and there's more value having Wemby and Co.getting some playoff basketball in their blood as opposed to having a cautious season, hoping for a better 1st round pick when we already have a solid amount for ourselves and as bargaining chips.

See what we got, let the team be naturally compe ive. This will help lure more higher quality free agents to San Antonio.

The West is going to be open next year. Dallas already looks poised to be the new Chernobyl for the next Kyrie toxic meltdown. If the Lakers get swept, King is leaving town and Anthony Davis is a broken down part timer. Ja Morant is probably cooked for most, if not all of next season. The Clippers are a 1st round bounce at best, but knowing Kawhi, hee could just randomly retire like tomorrow.

If the guys already here and figured in take steps forward, we pick up a few younger vets we dont anchor to for long commitments, I would see anything less than the 6th seed as a bad season.

I'm with you on that. I got the Spurs as a 40+ win team around the 8th seed. People forget that we sat half of our team every game to keep losing, otherwise that was a 35-win team last year. Our team is the youngest in the league and everybody will be better next season and our defense will improve tremendously from the jump. I feel like ever since we got the #1 pick people underrate what we already have.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

he was a good shooter in college

[exstatic]

I was thinking someone like Josh Giddey, but Quickley from the knicks is a really good alternative that probably would not cost 3 or 4 #1 picks.

Knicks don’t like us, and no longer trade with us. They accused us of tampering when the whole Porzingus trade went down.

[Rocalcio]

The kid still thinks he can be the first pick, I don’t want a dumb guy like this

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah I know his stats. Inconsistency and range were the concerns. I don't remember anyone saying he couldn't shoot. He didn't track as an elite athlete, he was a prototype small forward with big hands and elite rebounding.

[jjspur]

Knicks don’t like us, and no longer trade with us. They accused us of tampering when the whole Porzingus trade went down.

Yeah , the knicks have a bunch of A-holes in upper management, I was just thinking that there has to be a decent pg that wouldn't cost us a player and 2-3 picks. Davion Mic ? , Jevon Carter ?, . This is a tough one.

[Ariel]

The kid still thinks he can be the first pick, I don’t want a dumb guy like this

He's not unintelligent, he's just too proud to admit he's got no chance. Which is why both him and Lamelo wouldn't work together, they both want to be the top dog and neither would be willing to take a step back for the benefit of the team (like Manu did), irrespective of what they say publicly.

[Ariel]

Knicks don’t like us, and no longer trade with us. They accused us of tampering when the whole Porzingus trade went down.

Unsubstantiated BS to cover up for Morris. Besides that's pre Leon Rose.

[slick'81]

I'm with you on that. I got the Spurs as a 40+ win team around the 8th seed. People forget that we sat half of our team every game to keep losing, otherwise that was a 35-win team last year. Our team is the youngest in the league and everybody will be better next season and our defense will improve tremendously from the jump. I feel like ever since we got the #1 pick people underrate what we already have.

Spurs had to fight to give games away this season. Not to mention Wemby makes everyone on the roster instantly better

[Gagnrath]

Vassell is real deal Keldon overrated not good. Ship him while value high with 20 point average because of shot attempts on bad team.

Keldon isn't a me first guy... He also is a fairly hard worker, and good community guy. He is limited to being a borderline all-star on a good team and is number 3 option on such a team. That said without defenses keying on him it will help make him way more efficient. Players that are game smart and don't have a monster ego are always valuable, even if they are size and speed limited. He knows that he's a tweener forward and looks to exploit that. A teem with him as their long term number 2 is going to be disappointed come play-offs time. A team where he's in a number three role is a lot different. All this depends a lot on victor becoming most of what the hype is of course.

[Mnky]

No reason to go after Scoot with SGA. Miller would look nice on the OKC roster tbh

Agreed, which I believes helps the spurs if they attempt to make moves. I don't believe their needs are the same so spurs likely won't have a need to compete with okc for any potential moves.

[dbestpro]

Would you send Vassel and Johnson for Scoot and salary filler?