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    Im sure there’s ways around it but I read that the spurs can’t keep their cap space like they did this last offseason, the NBA made a new rule I believe on having to use it.
    Yes. Does it kick in next season already? We might have to sign some people on 1 year deals if that's the case

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    That's awesome.

    I'd take him or Connolly as my vet PG signings to help shape the youngsters.

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    Is he the second coming of Manu?

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    Is he the second coming of Manu?
    he's playing for the wrong team

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    If you want to make the argument for a veteran big, an inexpensive, fringe rotation - deep bench type, who can make a shot like Saric, Wagner or Kaminsky, make a lot more sense than an older, relatively expensive, clear cut rotational player who can't shoot, like Plumlee.

    On a team that already counts two terrible shooters (Sochan and Jones) among their top 6 and only 2 good shooters definitively in their rotation period (Vassell, McDermott), the last thing they need is a rim running C.

    I'd have had interest in Reid pre Wembanyama, as sort of a younger Collins type, who'd free them up to trade the latter for more draft capital. Now, I wouldn't bother.

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    Trade for Jalen Brown. He doesn't want to be second fiddle in Boston.
    The fit is great, but why would he want to play second fiddle here? Victor is the de-factor superstar.

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    Cam Johnson.

    Defensive upgrade, upgrades the shooting. Smart.

    Should be offered a contract at Midnight on the dot

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    he's good but cant imagine he'd be cheap. is he the guy we want to be paying what is likely 20+ mil per. i wonder if targeting Yuta instead could be an option

    brooklyn is in such a weird spot where they have a number of solid role guys, no star, a weird draft pick situation with them still owing some picks and swaps to houston meaning tanking doesnt do for them, but then getting picks from phoenix (and then way down the line, dallas).

    they arent in a good cap spot, but joe harris has 17.5 mil expiring. ben simmons is the elephant under contract for 2 more years at 38/40 mil. i dont know that they are wanting to sell picks for cap relief, but theyre going to have to get into the tax just to keep their squad in tact.

    tanking doesnt make sense because that stands to benefit houston and not them. they dont have the star to build a compe or with. dont really know what their plan is at all tbh. i imagine they'd be calling for guys like lillard/beal or trae just to try to do something.
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    Damn, George Hill is already 37. How time flies.

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    Brook Lopez is the perfect center for Wemba. Then Reeves or Strus. Similar players. Reeves better play maker. Strus better shooter.

    Sochan and Jones at point.

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    I don't really see why we should sign a center. Zach Collins is good enough playing next to Wembanyama and will still improve in some areas. Since he started he averaged 16.5/8/3.8/1/1 49.4% FG 39.2 3P%. These are actually great numbers.

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    I don't really see why we should sign a center. Zach Collins is good enough playing next to Wembanyama and will still improve in some areas. Since he started he averaged 16.5/8/3.8/1/1 49.4% FG 39.2 3P%. These are actually great numbers.
    i think he should be extended, but would also like to sign a center that can be a better defensive anchor when the situation calls for it. while he got better at it in the 2nd half, collins has a history of being foul-prone. fouls notwithstanding, he's not an impactful defender though he's he'll throw his body around. if wemby is going to get any degree of load/minute management as a rookie, we're going to need bodies anyway. and its not like collins cant play alongside another center for stretches.

    collins also missed about a quarter of the season last year. i dont want 6'9 bassey to be the only other option

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    I don't think the moves this year are about vaulting into contention. It's about ensuring the Culture builds, and you have a variety of pieces in place so you can determine what the best way to play around Wemby is, so that you know fit for the future picks. It's not "What makes us good this year" but "What do we need to know in term of player types to work with around Wemby."

    I think you want to go shooting bigs who are strong, so Vic can be a weakside / help defender, but you can punish the help he'll force - Brook would be great if he's interested (I think the Bucks pay for the next few years of contention and he'd want to stay there), or lower end young guys like Naz Reid (not as good), or strong 4 who can play small ball 5 like PJ Washington and Grant Williams. (A Zach / Wemby / Sochan / Grant top 4 bigs with another bruising Centre would let you test the combos).

    Wing spots are mostly taken, in terms of variety. I think you want as many guys who offer some level of average / + defence and shooting as possible. Working out how Keldon / Malaki fit, and how Wemby plays with a movement shooter like Doug is a useful bit of discovery. there's not great wing depth in the Free agency market, but Kuzma / Cam Johnson could make sense if you were looking for another good player to add options, who aren't old and means you can run out huge lineups with shooting. Don't see much point in going for fringe options below GT Jnr, and might as well check in on Malaki rather than signing another SG only shooter.

    Nothing at PG intrigues me in the FA market. I think you want to keep the varied attack, so keeping Tre and seeing how that works alongside some Blake development minutes is probably sensible. I don't think Tre is a long term starter, but there's no point reaching for a fringe upgrade when this is an experiment year.

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    i think he should be extended, but would also like to sign a center that can be a better defensive anchor when the situation calls for it. while he got better at it in the 2nd half, collins has a history of being foul-prone. fouls notwithstanding, he's not an impactful defender though he's he'll throw his body around. if wemby is going to get any degree of load/minute management as a rookie, we're going to need bodies anyway. and its not like collins cant play alongside another center for stretches.

    collins also missed about a quarter of the season last year. i dont want 6'9 bassey to be the only other option
    3.3 fouls per game while averaging 29 minutes is not bad tbh. Zach will still get better, he's only 25 and this was basically his 3rd full season. We could sign a back up big, but I'd rather let Bassey get more playing time. He's on a bargain contract and got some potential.

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    3.3 fouls per game while averaging 29 minutes is not bad tbh. Zach will still get better, he's only 25 and this was basically his 3rd full season. We could sign a back up big, but I'd rather let Bassey get more playing time. He's on a bargain contract and got some potential.
    for the season, his fouls per 36 was 5. i did say he got better at it later in the year, but its generally been a trend with him.

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    I definitely want another good strong body. I am a Bassey believer, but his health and capabilities are not established. I don't think he lasts past Indiana, but TJD is the sort of perfect piece to get. He's older, but knowledgable. He's undersized, but very athletic. Good locker room. Rebounds, blocks shots, can bang. Mamu has a role here, but he's more of a PF

    Not a big believer in other bigs in this draft, at least in terms of immediate capabilities. Dieng obviously isn't the solution. I really think they need to get somebody somewhere.

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    I would take a flyer on Thomas Bryant over wasting time on Plumlee.

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    Naz Reid anyone?

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    Naz Reid anyone?
    Exactly who I think we should target, he’d be perfect to split time with Collins with (maybe even surpass him)
    Jaxson Hayes is another guy that might be attainable. I see the Brook Lopez intrigue but he’s old

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    for the season, his fouls per 36 was 5. i did say he got better at it later in the year, but its generally been a trend with him.
    I'm talking about his stats as a starter. The sample size is big enough here

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    Would Spurs even want any of the Celtics marshmallows? Looks like implosion is incoming.

    DWhite on a comeback tour? No? Too injury prone?

    Their 3 *stars* are just pathetic at playing with a lead and having a BBIQ over room temperature.

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    Starting to wonder if SA would like to bring back Kieta Bates-Diop now?

    Was assuming he would be gone but now with Victor the added length might be nice.

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    Starting to wonder if SA would like to bring back Kieta Bates-Diop now?

    Was assuming he would be gone but now with Victor the added length might be nice.
    I think he's back as a culture fit. Team still needs older vets and he's one of those guys. Team's also weak on long SFs as you say.

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    Agreed Mr Body

    KBD could be additional long insulation around Victor which I view as a priority.

    He can play SF and hits a pretty nice corner 3, does lots of little glue things, but you can slide KBD up to PF in select cir stances and so it's a helpful player template for sure not to mention corporate knowledge to dust off a theme from our heyday.

    Without Wemby perhaps I see KBD gone and the team going in another direction as more likely.

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