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    1 game a week 1 minute for 1 quarter every 1 half

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    Rudy Gobert is 7’1 without shoes and Victor has at least 3-4 inches on him… I think Wemby’s a legit 7’5 tbh. Hope I’m wrong but that looks to be the case.


    Would you trade Keldon for Gobert?

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    Spurs will hire him as they should. They did the same with Nephew‘s friend Castleberry or whatever his name was.
    Dingleberry, iirc.

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    If I'm the Spurs, he ain't playing any more than 20 minutes a game. I don't care about any in-game situation or time.
    That would be the most effective way to get him disgruntled.

    Yall crazy "we need to keep Wemby on a bubble" folks need to chill and stop overreacting., tbh.

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    For a 19yro dude not lifting weights as a sporstman is a crime. He can do flexability work as much as he wants but the body will not take much if not strong.
    PG recently said that Adams, Westbrook and David West doesn't do weightlifting. Sure different body but there are ways to strengthen the body other than weightlifting.

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    PG recently said that Adams, Westbrook and David West doesn't do weightlifting. Sure different body but there are ways to strengthen the body other than weightlifting.
    Sure

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    I think they will focus on his core strength which you really don’t need weights to achieve results
    core stength is not enough

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    Wasn't Kevin Durant not able to bench press a single time during the draft combine?

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    He can stay weak no big deal tbh

    If we talk about development there is no better way to gain strength but to lift weights. Nothing around it.

    As a big guy it would be nice if he could hold the ball inside or stood the ground fighting for a rebound.

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    I thought the Kawhi reporting brought up medical staff disagreements between the two parties. We know Green also complained. Is there reason to keep an eye on this? all of the Spurs wellness personnel getting along with Wembys 20 trainers and doctors to both Victor and Pop’s satisfaction?
    What I can come up with is they have been planning for him for five years.

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    Wasn't Kevin Durant not able to bench press a single time during the draft combine?

    yeah and it became a thing with Cowherd saying he’d be a bust etc.

    94.1 had a doctor on Wednesday morning who had a good perspective, who said in no uncertain terms,

    that his body wouldn’t support putting on weight quickly, to just slowly add it naturally, and he feels his feet etc will be fine. When Yao Ming was brought up, and said Ming’s problem was he had naturally freakish large body in relation to his feet.

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    yeah and it became a thing with Cowherd saying he’d be a bust etc.

    94.1 had a doctor on Wednesday morning who had a good perspective, who said in no uncertain terms,

    that his body wouldn’t support putting on weight quickly, to just slowly add it naturally, and he feels his feet etc will be fine. When Yao Ming was brought up, and said Ming’s problem was he had naturally freakish large body in relation to his feet.
    What does it mean naturally? In sports world.

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    I think I’ll trust Wemby’s people and the Spurs’ staff to know what Wemby’s training regimen will be. My su ion is that the regimen starts to work in more weights once the growth plates close.

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    Is it true that your feet can keep growing all the way up to 21 years old? Was reading that most people height stop at 18 but that your feet can continue to grow until 21 years old? Yeah, I know you feet can get smaller or bigger if you loose weight or get fat but was a little surprised to learn that his feet could get longer which is why they put so much importance on his feet stretching, working the tendons, etc..and also surprised me that they wanting 8 to 10 hours of sleep

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    What does it mean naturally? In sports world.
    It means to add weight through "natural" training programs like bodyweight exercises, high cardio + slight caloric excess, and to avoid focusing on muscle buildup as a goal in itself.

    As opposed to the usual "bulk him up" program of steroid injection, 6 protein-ladden meals a day, gym-rat muscle-isolation weightlifting.

    You said earlier "If we talk about development there is no better way to gain strength but to lift weights", and I question the notion entirely: since when is "development" akin to muscle-building, and since when is strength-gaining the apex of player development? There might not be a "better way" to get strong than weightlifting, but the whole point of the discussion is that it might not be in Wemby's best long-term interest to bulk up and gain strength in significant measure.

    As lanky as his body may seem, make no mistake, he's quite strong. And I love the exercise routine his entourage has got him on, it's great for his body - and you don't see him lifting weights at all, despite spending literal hours each day working on his body. Just excellent, medicinally advanced programs.

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    It means to add weight through "natural" training programs like bodyweight exercises, high cardio + slight caloric excess, and to avoid focusing on muscle buildup as a goal in itself.

    As opposed to the usual "bulk him up" program of steroid injection, 6 protein-ladden meals a day, gym-rat muscle-isolation weightlifting.

    You said earlier "If we talk about development there is no better way to gain strength but to lift weights", and I question the notion entirely: since when is "development" akin to muscle-building, and since when is strength-gaining the apex of player development? There might not be a "better way" to get strong than weightlifting, but the whole point of the discussion is that it might not be in Wemby's best long-term interest to bulk up and gain strength in significant measure.

    As lanky as his body may seem, make no mistake, he's quite strong. And I love the exercise routine his entourage has got him on, it's great for his body - and you don't see him lifting weights at all, despite spending literal hours each day working on his body. Just excellent, medicinally advanced programs.
    That is so wrong on many levels tbh. You jyst like timvp has no idea how ut works with body development.

    Tbqh he is weak inside as I took a look. So it us critical fir him to get stronger. If those exercises they showed are the only one he trains. With all flexability stretch work. They need to find anither coach.
    I think in NBA they do know better.

    Anyway you di nit separate prigrans to natural and unnatural. They are designed.
    In NBA you do have good enhancements but then if your image is pumpin iron kinda sessions... Nope.

    To develop strength you do not need juge muscles but they come in handy. And to build muscles it is hard to do when you are basketball player. He would have to go 2 years without basketball to gain muscles and then strength to be satisfying for the nba level as I can see.

    Its a shame that at 19 he was not introduced to weights.

    Things he needs most are mobility work hypertrophy work then strength going to power abd then speed.

    Not also he lacks strength but his knees are bad. Foot butt and legs a must.

    20pds by his second season is a must imo. And not much more.
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    That is so wrong on many levels tbh. You jyst like timvp has no idea how ut works with body development.

    Tbqh he is weak inside as I took a look. So it us critical fir him to get stronger. If those exercises they showed are the only one he trains. With all flexability stretch work. They need to find anither coach.
    I think in NBA they do know better.

    Anyway you di nit separate prigrans to natural and unnatural. They are designed.
    In NBA you do have good enhancements but then if your image is pumpin iron kinda sessions... Nope.

    To develop strength you do not need juge muscles but they come in handy. And to build muscles it is hard to do when you are basketball player. He would have to go 2 years without basketball to gain muscles and then strength to be satisfying for the nba level as I can see.

    Its a shame that at 19 he was not introduced to weights.

    Things he needs most are mobility work hypertrophy work then strength going to power abd then speed.

    Not also he lacks strength but his knees are bad. Foot butt and legs a must.

    20pds by next season is a must imo. And not much more.
    I'm sure they know Victor and what they're doing better than anyone here. They even consulted Dirk's former famous trainer and guru, Holger Geschwindner (they guy who made Dirk basically and Victor trained with) and he also adviced not focus on bulking up to fast but very progressivily. Basically saying that's not the priority for now in his development and he shouldn't focus on lifting.
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    That is so wrong on many levels tbh. You jyst like timvp has no idea how ut works with body development.

    Tbqh he is weak inside as I took a look. So it us critical fir him to get stronger. If those exercises they showed are the only one he trains. With all flexability stretch work. They need to find anither coach.
    I think in NBA they do know better.

    Anyway you di nit separate prigrans to natural and unnatural. They are designed.
    In NBA you do have good enhancements but then if your image is pumpin iron kinda sessions... Nope.

    To develop strength you do not need juge muscles but they come in handy. And to build muscles it is hard to do when you are basketball player. He would have to go 2 years without basketball to gain muscles and then strength to be satisfying for the nba level as I can see.

    Its a shame that at 19 he was not introduced to weights.

    Things he needs most are mobility work hypertrophy work then strength going to power abd then speed.

    Not also he lacks strength but his knees are bad. Foot butt and legs a must.

    20pds by next season is a must imo. And not much more.
    The obsession modern culture has with weight lifting and 'putting on gains' is absurd.

    Wembanyama knows infinitely more about what his body needs than you do. It's already been made explictly clear that he doesn't want to put on body mass at this point. He has a personal trainer who has worked with top athletes who are very, very tall. His prep regimin before games and practices is extensive, and based on flexibility and preparing the different parts of his body, from joints down to his big toes, for taking the constant pressure of taking off and landing. He's valuing long-term use of those joints, cartilege, tendons, muscle, bones, over simply 'putting on weight' and muscle like some roided out meathead freak.

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    Staying upright on the floor is important for his back, which is why I emphasize that he has less duties defending players on the perimeter and more in the mid - paint area. He should be surrounded by players who guard “low”, so he can focus on blocks and being an interior presence. Team defense metrics goes up that way. And then an physical big inside to help with the physicality will help his long term durability. Collins is not that. He’s like a traffic cone inside when it comes to stronger players.

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    I'm sure they know Victor and what they're doing better than anyone here. They even consulted Dirk's former famous trainer and guru, Holger Geschwindner (they guy who made Dirk basically and Victor trained with) and he also adviced not focus on bulking up to fast but very progressivily. Basically saying that's not the priority for now in his development and he shouldn't focus on lifting.
    What is too fast then?

    Lifting is not bulking - again

    Also as a player he is unable to bulk up as you probably think he can

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    The obsession modern culture has with weight lifting and 'putting on gains' is absurd.

    Wembanyama knows infinitely more about what his body needs than you do. It's already been made explictly clear that he doesn't want to put on body mass at this point. He has a personal trainer who has worked with top athletes who are very, very tall. His prep regimin before games and practices is extensive, and based on flexibility and preparing the different parts of his body, from joints down to his big toes, for taking the constant pressure of taking off and landing. He's valuing long-term use of those joints, cartilege, tendons, muscle, bones, over simply 'putting on weight' and muscle like some roided out meathead freak.
    Clearly you are not responding to my post.
    And assures me you have no idea about training and human body.

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    250'ish should be a solid weight overall

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    That is so wrong on many levels tbh. You jyst like timvp has no idea how ut works with body development.

    Tbqh he is weak inside as I took a look. So it us critical fir him to get stronger. If those exercises they showed are the only one he trains. With all flexability stretch work. They need to find anither coach.
    I think in NBA they do know better.

    Anyway you di nit separate prigrans to natural and unnatural. They are designed.
    In NBA you do have good enhancements but then if your image is pumpin iron kinda sessions... Nope.

    To develop strength you do not need juge muscles but they come in handy. And to build muscles it is hard to do when you are basketball player. He would have to go 2 years without basketball to gain muscles and then strength to be satisfying for the nba level as I can see.

    Its a shame that at 19 he was not introduced to weights.

    Things he needs most are mobility work hypertrophy work then strength going to power abd then speed.

    Not also he lacks strength but his knees are bad. Foot butt and legs a must.

    20pds by his second season is a must imo. And not much more.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
    here's an article for you

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    yeah and it became a thing with Cowherd saying he’d be a bust etc.
    Yeah, conventional wisdom is a . Colin Cowherd didn't just opine that Greg Oden would be a superstar and Kevin Durant would be a bust -- he went on and on about it.



    94.1 had a doctor on Wednesday morning who had a good perspective, who said in no uncertain terms,

    that his [Wemby's] body wouldn’t support putting on weight quickly, to just slowly add it naturally, and he feels his feet etc will be fine. When Yao Ming was brought up, and said Ming’s problem was he had naturally freakish large body in relation to his feet.
    Why not just let Wemby play as much as he feels comfortable with. The natural movements of basketball will strengthen the joints and muscles that are most involved in playing basketball, likely more so than weightlifting. If Wemby bulks up his torso, the added weight may just put unnatural pressure on his feet that nature did not intend for a guy like him (like the Yao Ming statement above). Nature has a say in all of this and probably knows best. And, after all, Wemby didn't miss any games last season in France.

    Let him play (within reason). People seem to forget (after the Kawhi nonsense) that the Spurs "load management" wasn't really so much about injury prevention as rest -- the Spurs wanted their players rested when the games mattered.

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    Yeah, conventional wisdom is a . Colin Cowherd didn't just opine that Greg Oden would be a superstar and Kevin Durant would be a bust -- he went on and on about it.







    Why not just let Wemby play as much as he feels comfortable with. The natural movements of basketball will strengthen the joints and muscles that are most involved in playing basketball, likely more so than weightlifting. If Wemby bulks up his torso, the added weight may just put unnatural pressure on his feet that nature did not intend for a guy like him (like the Yao Ming statement above). Nature has a say in all of this and probably knows best. And, after all, Wemby didn't miss any games last season in France.

    Let him play (within reason). People seem to forget (after the Kawhi nonsense) that the Spurs "load management" wasn't really so much about injury prevention as rest -- the Spurs wanted their players rested when the games mattered.
    Nope

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