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g league pays more and no ncaa to nanny over your endorsements, less chance at injury i assume due to the compe ion being more professional
That's a real can of worms.
First of all, we're seeing more and more high schoolers opt for G-League instead of college.
There are two schools of thought on the other question.
1. It's better to play G-League. The other players are older, physically developed, and are professionals. They are more talented than college players.
2. It's better to play high-level college. You're learning how to play within a team environment, the coaching is much better, players aren't there simply to advance their own skillsets and careers, you play in hostile arenas, the games actually matter, and so possessions matter much more.
I'm in the second camp. G-League players take time to adjust to knowing how to respond to game environments, while they may be good at on-on-one skills. We haven't really seen a high-school-to-G-League guy do that well yet, but it's early.
g league pays more and no ncaa to nanny over your endorsements, less chance at injury i assume due to the compe ion being more professional
Scoot had a two year, one million dollar contract with Ignite.
The NIL is hard to figure out for NCAA. A lot of mystery. Players like Tschiebwe and Timme might have made around $800,000 in their NIL. Mackenzie Mgbako cancelled his Duke pledge after Flilipowski opted to stay. Kansas and Indiana are rumored to have entered into a bidding war -- including Mark Cuban, who is an IU alumn -- and guy might have come away with $1-2 million for next year.
Yeah. I guess that's why he was 15 and not one or two. Just another example of how Kawhi surprised us with his improvement.
I always wonder what the Spurs could have done with MKG as a rookie since he was another high motor 3/4 tweener who had a jumper with horrible form. Still the Spurs only had two days to teach Leonard new jumper form before the lockout and to their amazement Leonard came to training camp after the lockout with that form they taught him down cold, which I doubt MKG could have pulled off training on his own in the lockout after two days of training from the team.
Anyone watching the NBA playoffs knows you need at least two stars if you’re going to compete for a le.
We just got Wemby and we still need at least another one.
Keldon and Vassell are great complementary players but they are not that second star to carry your team to le contention.
Jury is still out on Sochan.
The reason you’d move up for Scoot is if you think he can be that guy.
I think that potential is there.
Scoot also happens to fill the most obvious hole in our starting lineup.
Wemby will not fulfill his potential until he gets good play from a ball handling facilitator.
I doubt that we can swing the trade to get Scoot, but I’d be willing to trade 3 firsts for him or a solid player + 2 protected firsts. I think he will be special and the Spurs would absolutely develop him well.
y‘all spurstalkers would say the complete opposite about Scoot if we had the #2 pick
Slow it down. Take it easy. Even if Wemby is a solid block, we still won't be building Rome in one day. Wemby's teammates still won't be able to defend or shoot, so we will win about 30 games and get to pick relatively early next year. Listen to what Portland wants for their pick, but if it's too crazy, don't force it.
As good as I think the Spurs are at developing talent, I have never seen a player progress like Kawhi. The Spurs deserve some credit for sure, but Kawhi's improvement was stunning. I literally couldn't believe it as I watched it happening. I hope they have that formula ready to use on someone else.
I almost think that people who show out about thing aren’t those things. Like Ja with his wanna be gangsta . You can be hyper compe ive without jumping up and down and acting like a fool.
It's a universal human truth - insecurity is loud, confidence is silent. I also came away from re-watching the Scoot Vs Wemby highlights with the feeling that Scoot was weirdly over-invested in the matchup and forcing just to "show out", whilst Wemby was much calmer and collected, which showed in the 4th when Scoot started going directly and Victor. He got his swatted easily, twice.
People call it "little brother syndrome", "short guy syndrome", whatever. It's just insecurity. It's a massive difference between both players and no doubt it'll play into their careers, and why I'm not interested in overpaying for Scoot at all.
we would've won 30 games last season easily if we didn't sit everybody to make sure we lose
Secretly preferred the #2 pick to get Scoot. He fills a giant hole at point guard, has superstar potential, plays compe ively every minute, and has a large chip on his shoulder being perpetually behind Wemby. Wemby will have injury concerns and will have to beat heavy odds to have a 10+ year healthy career in the NBA. Can't not take the gamble on Wemby but going #2 would have forced the Spurs to pick Scoot.
Most mock drafts have him at 3 now, behind Miller.
Btw speaking of Money, Henderson has a massive 7 year contract with Puma. Not sure, he would have gotten that as an NCAA player.
Charlotte will screw it up and take Miller. Miller is going to be a bust.
Leave Portland with the better trade asset.
Last edited by rascal; 05-21-2023 at 02:47 PM.
Instead if trying to get Scoot, I’d throw all available resources toward getting Tyrese Haliburton.
He is Indy's franchise ticket. It would take a King's ransom.. and then some prolly.
Don't buy the hype, this kid was shut down by the ignite program because he got worst the more he plays. He retained his ranking cause everyone was also awful. I think you look at this like the 2021 class, just get guys who would translate, I think this is why Hendricks who did not even make the tourney is top 10.
Last edited by rankingtear; 05-22-2023 at 10:21 AM.
I agree for once. I think Miller isn't going to be great. A lot of Jabari Smith there.
Maybe we need to admit G-League Ignite isn't as good as we think it is. Maybe we need to adjust for hype.
The days of prospects showing up ready to play at an all star level on day 1 are over.
The real adjustment needs to be in people's expectations for rookies. That includes Wemby. He's ridiculously talented, but oh so raw
Almost everyone being drafted nowadays in the lottery is a teenager and still developing/raw.
What you look for in the younger guys is whether they have unique and game changing traits that can make them elite players once they develop.
You also look at whether they have the personality, work ethic, etc, to develop to their full potential.
Scoot has numerous unique and game changing traits.
He has a ridiculous 6'9" wingspan for someone 6'2".
He is also an elite athlete, with a lot of strength, speed, and power, but most impressively, he has elite quickness that gets him into the lane at will.
I consider his personality to also be a unique and positive trait. He expects greatness from himself. He is obviously a hard worker and he seems like someone who won't stop working until his reality matches his expectations.
Skills are the kind of thing that you can hopefully develop atop the unique traits.
He already has great handle.
He also has some creative finishing moves and a mid-range game. Those can get better but we see the foundations there.
What needs work is his outside shot. As Spurs fans know, that can happen for most players with enough work. Bowen, Kawhi, and many others Spurs have developed that shot while in Silver & Black
You got almost everything wrong in your post.
By NBA standards, which is what we should be using as a measuring stick, he is NOT an elite athlete. Every draft analyst I've read makes it clear that he is NOT in the Rose/Westbrook/Wall/Ja category, but below it.
He's also an average to below average finisher in a league nearly devoid of shot blocking. His 2p%, 3p%, FT% and TS% are all rated as negatives. He SHOOTS a lot of midrange shots, but makes them at a poor rate.
Not an elite athlete huh?
He passes the eye test to me and there are a ton of articles citing scouts who say he is.
I guess we'll see when he steps on the court next season.
No.
Imho all depends by Spurs evaluation of Scoot. Because if they see him as a sure thing and a generational starting point guard of the future the moment to choose him is now... It's in fact difficult to find out a situation where the number 2 and 3 of draft night are in fact possibly available because the drafting teams already have a point guard they're committed to... And this year we have all the chances to complete our roster with other players considering our cap space, our rights on our not signed players and our amount of picks...
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