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    For those saying CP3 is "ball dominant", this isn't prime CP3. At this stage of his career, and moving forward, he doesn't/won't dominate the ball as much.

    And just think about all the wide open buckets he could get Wemby out of pick and roll sets. They would smash the Spurs all-time record for alley-oops on a season by themselves.

    And then, in 2 years time, when we are ready to compete for real, CP3 is off the books, opening up 30 millions in cap space to bring on a younger star (or resign our own). And who knows, if he does well enough, we might keep him for a vet minimum to be our backup PG so that he finally gets his ring.

    The more I think about it, the more sense it makes.

    For real folks, give me one good reason why this move doesn't make the most of senses and doesn't work at all levels.
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    People don’t like CP3. He rubs people the wrong way. Yes, he’s friends with superstars but he’s a type that divides rather than unites. To me, he’s the opposite of Tim Duncan in too many ways. I don’t want him. He wouldn’t mentor but push to get his ring. That’s not us next year.

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    Paull will be 4 seasons removed from his Thunder "gap year" (in terms of championship contention) next season, where he proved he still had gas left in the tank as far as being an All-NBA level player.

    He's now 38, fell from so much as All-Star caliber last season and might be down to his final season in the league. He's not going to want to spend it on a re-building team.

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    Paull will be 4 seasons removed from his Thunder "gap year" (in terms of championship contention) next season, where he proved he still had gas left in the tank as far as being an All-NBA level player.

    He's now 38, fell from so much as All-Star caliber last season and might be down to his final season in the league. He's not going to want to spend it on a re-building team.
    I don't think Paul is in a position to demand much, tbh. Him getting to complete his current contract might be the best thing he can aspire right now.

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    I don't think Paul is in a position to demand much, tbh. Him getting to complete his current contract might be the best thing he can aspire right now.
    A player of his stature is going to be given what he wants, especially by an organization like this.

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    No thanks. HOF d!ckhead.

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    Yeah don’t want him anywhere near out team.

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    Today, I'm liking Mike Connolly more as our vet leader option.

    I'm also thinking with the shooting challenges of what we think may be the SL that Pop may want to give Graham some legit run/chance to take the starting job. He's kind of in the Patty mold tbh. Graham, Vassell, Sochan, Wemby and Collins is an interesting line up.

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    Not a single better way to ease Wemby into the league, tbh.

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    I'm grateful that Carmelo retired so the Spurs don't sign him. /s

    I guess we can always pray for an asteroid so Chris Paul never puts on a Spurs jersey.

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    The thing about Chris is that he didn’t age gracefully, and he won’t make it past the second round of the playoffs. He’s crapped out there for the last 8 years. I clearly remember him as a Clipper in 2015, dragging his leg up and down the court with a bad hamstring. That would become a recurring theme.

    What good is it to have a veteran mentor PG if he can’t go in the playoffs?

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    The thing about Chris is that he didn’t age gracefully, and he won’t make it past the second round of the playoffs. He’s crapped out there for the last 8 years. I clearly remember him as a Clipper in 2015, dragging his leg up and down the court with a bad hamstring. That would become a recurring theme.

    What good is it to have a veteran mentor PG if he can’t go in the playoffs?
    The Spurs aren't making it past the second round of the playoffs regardless, so that's not a problem. The idea of getting Paul isn't to contend, it is to add a veteran presence to the roster and a guy that can get Wemby some easy buckets. Also a pick and roll maestro to teach the young guys.

    With all of CP3's fault he would still easily be our best PG and one of the 2 or 3 best players in the entire squad.

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    The Spurs aren't making it past the second round of the playoffs regardless, so that's not a problem. The idea of getting Paul isn't to contend, it is to add a veteran presence to the roster and a guy that can get Wemby some easy buckets. Also a pick and roll maestro to teach the young guys.

    With all of CP3's fault he would still easily be our best PG and one of the 2 or 3 best players in the entire squad.
    So, you bring him in for a bit, then he's gone when Wemby gets good? Who takes over then? And what happens if things go better than expected and we make the playoffs? He's going to lug out, Did any other CP3 backups become as proficient as him? If not, seems like a waste of time.

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    Chris Paul isn’t coming to the Spurs. The team’s priority at PG is re-signing Tre Jones. As far as acquisitions, their priorities are at PF and C. How much more typing needs to be wasted on the topic?

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    Chris Paul had a chance to come to a very good Spurs team a while back, and forced the trade to Houston instead.

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    He’s a lower key malcontent. I think his presence would be a net negative. He needs to go chase rings coming off the bench of a contender.

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    So, you bring him in for a bit, then he's gone when Wemby gets good? Who takes over then?
    If Wemby becomes good, we'll have plenty of suitors knocking on that door.

    And what happens if things go better than expected and we make the playoffs?
    Then the trade would be considered a success.

    He's going to lug out, Did any other CP3 backups become as proficient as him? If not, seems like a waste of time.
    So you propose we don't add any veteran presence whatsoever. Just let the young guys figure it out for themselves?

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    Chris Paul isn’t coming to the Spurs. The team’s priority at PG is re-signing Tre Jones. As far as acquisitions, their priorities are at PF and C. How much more typing needs to be wasted on the topic?
    Any link to any of the things you are saying?

    So let me get this straight:

    For the PF/C position we have 3 guys that will definitely get rotation minutes: Wemby, Sochan, and Collins. All of them starter level and 2 of them with all-star level potential.

    In the PG spot we only have Tre Jones: a low ceiling guy who, best case scenario, manages to become a decent backup.

    But the prority is adding PF/C over PG?

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    If Wemby becomes good, we'll have plenty of suitors knocking on that door.



    Then the trade would be considered a success.



    So you propose we don't add any veteran presence whatsoever. Just let the young guys figure it out for themselves?
    I propose that we add or play someone who can go the seasonal distance if we exceed expectations, and who might last more than a year or two of Wemby's career.

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    Any link to any of the things you are saying?
    Read other threads.

    So let me get this straight:

    For the PF/C position we have 3 guys that will definitely get rotation minutes: Wemby, Sochan, and Collins. All of them starter level and 2 of them with all-star level potential.

    In the PG spot we only have Tre Jones: a low ceiling guy who, best case scenario, manages to become a decent backup.

    But the prority is adding PF/C over PG?
    Yes. The priority is protecting the unicorn. And, while Devonte’ Graham is a chucking tank commander, and not a long-term solution for anything, he is on the roster as a point guard, and last year they played him a lot.

    It does not appear that the Spurs care all that much about maximizing wins in 2023-24. It appears they just want Wemby to get his feet wet in the NBA, develop some other guys, and don’t mind collecting another lottery pick.

    It’s another rebuilding year.

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    I propose that we add or play someone who can go the seasonal distance if we exceed expectations, and who might last more than a year or two of Wemby's career.
    1) dude, where do I need to sign to secure that scenario of trading for CP3, getting to the 2nd round and him getting injured? Give me that all day and twice on sunday, 'cause it would mean the season would be a huge success. Either way, don't you worry, it won't happen.

    2) we already have guys that will partner Wemby for more than 2 years. Not every single player needs to last us more than 2 years. How many years did guys like Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott or Mario Elie played with Duncan? Did that turn up bad?

    You are just grasping at straws here. Just say you don't want CP3 and that's fine.

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    Yes. The priority is protecting the unicorn. And, while Devonte’ Graham is a chucking tank commander, and not a long-term solution for anything, he is on the roster as a point guard, and last year they played him a lot.

    It does not appear that the Spurs care all that much about maximizing wins in 2023-24. It appears they just want Wemby to get his feet wet in the NBA, develop some other guys, and don’t mind collecting another lottery pick.

    It’s another rebuilding year.
    And you don't think adding a PG with actual NBA starter level would be benefitial for Wemby's development?

    P/S: I've read other threads, there's nothing about the Spurs prioritazing PF/C over PG. In any case, it is too early to know what their moves will be. Probably they don't even know it yet, that's why I don't think you asseveration is right.
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    1) dude, where do I need to sign to secure that scenario of trading for CP3, getting to the 2nd round and him getting injured? Give me that all day and twice on sunday, 'cause it would mean the season would be a huge success. Either way, don't you worry, it won't happen.

    2) we already have guys that will partner Wemby for more than 2 years. Not every single player needs to last us more than 2 years. How many years did guys like Avery Johnson, Sean Elliott or Mario Elie played with Duncan? Did that turn up bad?

    You are just grasping at straws here. Just say you don't want CP3 and that's fine.
    Oh, I definitely don't want CP3. He's a diva and an asshole who's won nothing, and would be an awful influence in the locker room.

    Speaking of Avery, that's who Tim started with, an existing asset who people thought wasn't good enough. Sounds an awful lot like Tre.

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