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    When are people going to realize Wembanyama is not a center?
    When they watch him play

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    Wembanyama is a C, just not a traditional one like Poeltl, so he'll need a specific type of C (like Collins) primarily starting next to him for probably a few seasons.

    Then throughout the game, gauge what he needs next to him based on matchup (and availability).

    Too many extreme views between those who think he should be the solo true big at virtually all times and those who not only think vice versa, but that a team already teeming with limited - non shooters needs to somewhat splurge on an aging one at C.
    I am looking for someone to guard the elite 5s out there. Of course you take every matchup as it comes. I just don't want Wemby banging with guys who outweigh him by 40+ lbs every night.

    I like Poeltl because he gives you 17/9, he knows the system, and in 2 or 3 years when Wemby starts to mature he will still be worth a . Lopez can shoot but he will be 40 in 2 years.

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    Forget “elite” 5s, i don’t want wemby out there wrestling bears like nurkic, Adams, valunciunas, etc

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    Forget “elite” 5s, i don’t want wemby out there wrestling bears like nurkic, Adams, valunciunas, etc
    Agreed. This conversation is making wonder how running Wemby at point on the pnr is going to look with Collins or a Poeltl type. I heard people say he did it in France but i have only seen him as the roll man and on isolations.

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    I am looking for someone to guard the elite 5s out there. Of course you take every matchup as it comes. I just don't want Wemby banging with guys who outweigh him by 40+ lbs every night.

    I like Poeltl because he gives you 17/9, he knows the system, and in 2 or 3 years when Wemby starts to mature he will still be worth a . Lopez can shoot but he will be 40 in 2 years.
    Poeltl has never averaged more than 13 points a game, and Brook Lopez turns 36 next April 1st

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    Agreed. This conversation is making wonder how running Wemby at point on the pnr is going to look with Collins or a Poeltl type. I heard people say he did it in France but i have only seen him as the roll man and on isolations.
    To be frank, today is the first time I’ve watched a full game of his and not just cut ups. So sample size is n=1. But he didnt remotely resemble a point guard

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    He would be a 4/5 until age 30. Like Duncan and AD and likely Mobley and JJJ.

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    Would you guys take a chance on Lonnie Walker again as a 6th man?
    Nah he will always be the same player...Has good games some days and has terrible games some days...Just inconsistent

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    I like the Naz Reid idea tbh and he's only 23

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    To be frank, today is the first time I’ve watched a full game of his and not just cut ups. So sample size is n=1. But he didnt remotely resemble a point guard
    He’s got good handles. For a big. But the idea that he’s a pg is laughable. I agree he’s a good creator but most stars become that by default. Most stars draw a defense.

    The problem with Wemby at the next level is how far the ball travels from hand to floor at his height. It’s a long dribble. That becomes a bit prohibitive for a breakdown pg.

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    Just a thought, certainly not the answer but

    Drew Timme Gonzaga.
    Late 2nd Round or possibly undrafted.

    For his downsides (White boy jumping ability, speed, no consistent trey)
    The guy is 100 on positioning, team ball. Could help keep some of the dogs off Wemby while being a super low salary hit.

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    Just a thought, certainly not the answer but

    Drew Timme Gonzaga.
    Late 2nd Round or possibly undrafted.

    For his downsides (White boy jumping ability, speed, no consistent trey)
    The guy is 100 on positioning, team ball. Could help keep some of the dogs off Wemby while being a super low salary hit.
    sounds like Kyle Anderson

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    When are people going to realize Wembanyama is not a center?
    Bro, are you even watching the NBA? Kody Zeller is playing as a center in the ing conference finals. Rui Hachimura was guarding Jokic and doing a better job than most traditional centers.

    Bam Adebayo, Al Horford. Those are the guys playing currently as centers. Of course Wembanyama will be a center. I don't know what you guys are smoking.
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    Wembanyama is on record saying he'd prefer to be a forward in the NBA, and not a center. The real question might be whether he's a PF or a SF. I really think the experiment with him as SF is a worthwhile one. Defensively it puts him in the middle of the action between the paint & the 3 pt line, and lets him be the ultimate help defender-- something that 8' wingspan is perfectly suited for. Let other bodies bang in the paint and have VW come help-- this saves his body and keeps him out of unnecessary foul trouble.

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    Bro, are you even watching the NBA? Kody Zeller is playing as a center in the ing conference finals. Rui Hachimura was guarding Jokic and doing a better job than most traditional centers.

    Bad Adebayo, Al Horford. Those are the guys playing currently as centers. Of course Wembanyama will be a center. I don't know what you guys are smoking.
    Dirk Nowitzki didn’t play center.

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    When they watch him play
    Since we got the number one pick I've watched like 4 or 5 full Wembanyama games. In all of them he played as the center. How can something so clear be so difficult to see to the folks in this forum?

    I blame the Duncan GPFOT narrative, tbh.

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    Dirk Nowitzki didn’t play center.
    In today's NBA, he might. Also, Wemby and Nowitzki have nothing in common, specially on defense.

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    We can beat this drum all year, but at the end of the day the Spurs already have said that Zach Collins will start at center, and sources say they’re looking to acquire another center. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for Wembanyama to play minutes at center. It really appears that the Spurs’ plan as he develops is to protect him from getting beat up by opposing big men.

    When Wemby is 25 years old and stronger, the situation may be different. But for 2023-24, all signs point to Wemby playing forward.

    Plus — and Spurs fans should know this — PF/C is a thing. You can interpret basketball positions as 1 point/2 wing/2 post just as easily as you can 2 guard/2 forward/1 center. “The greatest power forward of all time” logged plenty of minutes at center.

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    They started off with Davis on Jokic. Then they made a 4th quarter adjustment in game 1. You also saw how that worked out when they put someone without size onto Jokic.

    I am seeing you only have the most facile takes.
    Yeah, I saw Jokic torch the Lakers at a historical rate for 3 quarters untill Hachimura got on him and slowed him down and did a better job than most traditional centers. You are never going to completely stop a player like Jokic. Not even with prime Russell.

    And I don't have "facile" takes, I have common sense takes. Which it seems like something difficult to find on this forum. I would love to have the memory to bump these threads in about 20 years when Wemby retires as one of the best centers of all time and laugh at all the re ed takes currently going on. Folks are talking of Wemby as a SF or even PG.
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    Yeah wemby is a SF because he wants to be and it will force mismatches

    Hes playing C in France because that team sucks.

    Ideally youd call a timeout every possession,.sub in your shooter so its wemby with 4 shooters, then sub in your defensive C to help wemby. Thats not a possible srtat. So what is better.. playing wemby with multiple guards or avoiding him wearing out banging down low?

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    This sounds good to me. What do you think each of them would cost?

    How are they defensively, especially Naz Reid? Is he at least an above average defender?
    Cam Johnson would be tought to get, BK made his resigning a top priority.

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    We need 5s. I take what we can get as opposed to wishcasting a long range defending 5 to become available.
    we have three of them on the roster already. it's 2023, what teams have 3 Cs on the roster nowadays?

    Like I said before idk why everyone is so hung up on this idea of saving Wemby from "banging" down low. what Cs now even bang in the post? Nurkic, Valancunias? that's about it

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    Yeah wemby is a SF because he wants to be and it will force mismatches

    Hes playing C in France because that team sucks.

    Ideally youd call a timeout every possession,.sub in your shooter so its wemby with 4 shooters, then sub in your defensive C to help wemby. Thats not a possible srtat. So what is better.. playing wemby with multiple guards or avoiding him wearing out banging down low?
    Never in his life he played SF. Never in his life he will, tbh.

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    Yeah wemby is a SF because he wants to be and it will force mismatches

    Hes playing C in France because that team sucks.

    Ideally youd call a timeout every possession,.sub in your shooter so its wemby with 4 shooters, then sub in your defensive C to help wemby. Thats not a possible srtat. So what is better.. playing wemby with multiple guards or avoiding him wearing out banging down low?
    Maybe on offense he could do his thing slashing and driving sometimes like a SF, but on defense I think of a SF as more of a wing defender, which wouldn’t make a lot of sense for a guy with an 8’ wingspan.

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    Never in his life he played SF. Never in his life he will, tbh.
    Telling your star player “you must play Center“ is the surest way to piss him off. It was funny when LMA said he wouldn't play C but he did. Wemby isnt dumb. He knows he can play C, he will play C in stretches. But he images himself as a PF. Except Sochan is a PF. So presto SF

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