Wemby, Sochan, Keldon, Devin (and to a lesser extent Bran) are the core but only until there is someone better to replace them - which will definitely happen for a lot of those guys.
Everyone has a hard time seeing a future without some of our current "core" but there will be moves. We have zero players on our team now how were on the team 5 years ago. The 2013-14 Spurs only had the Big 3 + Bonner on the team who was on the squad 5 years prior. The only constant will be the stars. If that is Wemby + one other player, we'll call that a success. If it is Wemby + 2 other players from that list... then oh boy did we do well.
Keep the talent pipeline full.
He passed the eye test. It was the way he impacted the game with Kawhi out on both ends of the floor. Lonnie Walker just hit some shots.
True that Dejounte is nothing more than a borderline All-Star. I won’t argue that. Neither Johnson nor Vassell will ever sniff that level.
I don’t get why in 2023 people focus on ppg. Back in the day Damon Stoudamire put up gaudy numbers on a crappy team in Toronto, then went to Portland and the bed. Manu Ginobili never averaged 20 ppg.
How so? Doesn't Brooklyn realize that Schaedon Sharp is a future superstar? 🤡
By the way, what did Mikal show in the first two seasons on offense?
I like Mikal alot, but I would take the No. 3 and Schaedon Sharp for him. But, thats just me. *shrugs*
Shaedon Sharpe will improve though. On the Nets. Why are the Blazers trading such a generational talent?
So the posturing begins. The podcasters have been trying to wish this trade into existence.
I agree. Scoot + Sharpe seems like the perfect way to reboot quickly if you are the Nets.
There's a reason they're trying to dump Sharpe. He's fool's gold. You can stick him in the corners and he gets you absurd dunks in transition and lobs, but he is a very bad defender and he's way behind in understanding basketball.
For the #3... if it's Brandon Miller, Marks knows he's a high bust risk. His ceiling is also lower than people want to admit even if he doesn't bust -- look at Jabari Smith. You're giving up a ton for a guy whose skill set doesn't do as much as you think. If it's Scoot, it's a better outcome, but there are high risks there. Maybe he'll get to be as good as Mikal Bridges.
Beyond this, Mikal Bridges has value to the Nets well beyond the court. Sharpe and Henderson both seem self-absorbed with an over-inflated and not-yet earned view of their abilities. The franchise just dealt with three toxic personalities. They really like the iden y Bridges gives them.
They are looking to trade Simons with the third pick. 95% of Blazer fans want Simons traded over Sharpe.
Portland sees Sharpe as high value and is desperate to win now with Dame and will sacrifice their future to put players around Dame to win now. But look for them to try to trade Simons first.
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Because he didn't have to, since there were those Tim and TP guys around, who don't exist in the current team, which is the whole point. Ofc points don't tell the whole story but someone has to score them and we have repeated enough here that team needs talent, stars, mainly scoring stars. You won't find a Tim/Manu/TP big 3 anytime soon and the question is about Keldon or Vassell's ceiling, as different makers, mainly as scorers. You're not going anywhere with no one over 20/games in today's NBA. And focusing on points/game over 4 or 5 years to see if a player can be one of your top 2 or 3 guys who will make you win makse sense. We need one of Keldon or Vassel to be a 25pt+/game player to go where we want and if they want to stay or everyone will quintiple team Wemby.
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They aren't trying to dump Sharpe. Simons is the player they want to trade.
He has a buttery jumper,and can jump out of the gym. That’s it, though. He’s essentially Lonnie.
Would def keep Bridges vs a Scoot or Miller/Sharpe or Simons combo
Way to many unknowns while Bridges is established. Not surprised BKN asked for more
I guess I’m bias but I feel like Bridges and Vassell are very similar players and I’d take Scoot or Miller over both lol
OK. I don’t think those two are capable of fulfilling those roles. Even if KJ gets close, he gives it all back on the other end. I think the Spurs will have to find guys to fill those roles in upcoming drafts.
Imagine avoiding drafting a guy in the top 10 because you have Blake Wesley or Mamu on the roster.
The team is going to get plenty of additional young talent. They have too many draft picks not to. They have to avoid fetishizing the guys on the roster as if they have their spots on lock, because they will get compe ion. If you find that scenario disconcerting, then it should be more reason to support them consolidating their draft assets rather than just taking them as they come.
100% agree. Guys like Wesley or Mamu could be good to great role players...and should be treated as such. They aren't the type of guys you hitch your wagon to.
We've now got our guy who should be the clear #1. Spurs need to focus on whatever takes to get a clear #2, and I don't think that person exists on our current roster barring some monumental growth from someone like Sochan, Vassell, Branham, etc. I don't even think Johnson is that guy...I'm pretty sure he is at or just near his ceiling and that's still like a third option.
Has history taught us nothing? Use your draft capital / cap space to surround your cornerstone with high end vets. Let branham, Wesley, vassell etc…. develop naturally. Kj is a great bench piece, kbd is a great bench piece, Zach is a great bench piece/fringe starter. Next years draft will provoke these same debates, neglecting to acknowledge the minimal impact the previous draft picks / class had from top to bottom. Free agency will help reveal our true intentions
I think we are basically saying the same thing. I'm not asking for the Spurs to go out and seek another superstar, although it would be great if it happens naturally.
Tony and Manu were basically 2A/2B to Tim, depending upon who you ask. We were very lucky in that regard for it to come from a 28th and 57th pick.
I think the NBA is realizing that the days of trying to team up 3 "stars" with no help around them doesn't work. We need to develop a solid team from 1-10, and we have all the pieces to make that happen.
I got a feeling that the Blazers are trying to copy the Nuggets roster, only with Nurkic not being nearly as good as Jokic
There's a difference between:
1. The FO acquiring a new draft pick because they want to add a rookie, any type of rookie, to the roster
2. The FO acquiring a new draft pick because they are targeting a specific player
I don't think the team wants to get another draft pick just for another spin at the wheel.
I think they are very specifically targeting certain players. If they don't think they can get one of those players, they'll pull back. (Exception: moving the 33 into the 20s.)
So, they wouldn't be trying to get a top 10 pick 'just to see.' Or a pick in the late lottery, or around 20. They would only pull the trigger if they know they can hit their target.
💯👏🏽💯👏🏽 this is spot on. If the FO is licking their chops to pair another player in this draft next to Wemby, i think they’l make some major moves to get it done. I dont think they are gonna move assets JUST to see. They’re patient and smart about it. I do think the Spurs will get super aggressive in Wembys 2nd year though if we dont make any moves. We have a ton of draft picks to play with especially if a team is desperate.
for every vassell that develops nicely you have your lonnie walker, luka samanic, and josh primo
cant act like we know for sure what branham/wesley will look like in 1, 2, or 3 years, and certainly cant take for granted that those positions are solved
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