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Vinny ing Del Negro, man. It was so bad Robinson lead the team in assists per game one year.
David got three really good years of TC at the beginning and 6 years of Duncan at the end. That’s 9 years out of 14. He wasn’t shorted on front court help the way he was shorted on guards.
Vinny ing Del Negro, man. It was so bad Robinson lead the team in assists per game one year.
Antonio Daniels, man... Imagine Pop doesn't give a second chance to TP before the draft.
That roster for 1990 Robinson's rookie year was special, they were 1 silly Rod Strickland pass from making it and had they all stayed healthy would have been contending for another 2 or 3 years. I think many newer Spurs fans way underrated it.
I'm hoping we can give Wemby about the same level in talent for his start.
We need a pg who can shoot 3s....Its been awhile since we had one
In hindsight, sure, but trades are not made in hindsight. At the time, Cadillac had just completed his second season where he put up 14 and 8 on a really bad team, was one year removed from All Rookie 1st Team honors, and was regarded by fans as part of the young core. He was more accomplished than Branham at this point, who I used in my example. Because Cadillac turned out to kind be a bust does not mean he was not valued as a promising young player at the time of the deal. He did have one season after the Spurs where he finished in the Top 10 in rebounds per game, but that is hardly reason to not label him as someone who failed to live up to his early potential.
In 1989 David Robinson was 24. Wemby will be 19. The Spurs don't need to give Wemby a similar team right now, they need to give him a BETTER ONE in 2/3 years.
Though I was an early proponent of the 1989 model, I am solidly in this camp now. Let’s use this year to “see what we got” and then start the wheeling and dealing next year.
This is of course all hyperbole, but Woj (I believe it was Woj) said the expectation among some in the league is for Wemby to be the league’s best player by year 3. That is the target year for having a truly capable roster around him.
Year 1 - see what we got, but honestly I really think we could still be a playoff team. And honestly I would have said this with drafting any player who can contribute on Sochan’s level this season. We worked to lose a lot of those games last year. Without active win management and finding ourselves on the other side of natural variance, I think we could have easily been a 28-32 win team. I do not think it is crazy to think Wemby is worth a 10 game swing, even if he only plays 65 games. This is with only making minor moves this offseason.
Year 2 - we’ll have seen what we got, we’ll need to then take that data and correct whatever deficiencies we identify. Maybe we are a year 1 playoff team, but PG and C are glaring areas to improve… cool, now we have our assignment for the offseason and the resources at our disposal to make that happen. I believe that can actually start happening around the trade deadline this season.
Year 3 - we don’t need to be le favorites, but we should be realistic contenders for a top 4 seed in the West. Anything short of that, and we are behind schedule IMO.
Another reason to sit tight is that teams are pissed off that we won again, and not only will we not get any favorable trades, we likely won’t even be offered and fair or equitable trades. Give it a year to cool off, rather than overpaying now.
The same thing was said with Danny Ainge and the Lakers, and they pulled off a great trade. Teams have their own needs and will do what's in their best interest. You just can't come off as desperate, you have to be actively looking for opportunities but willing to hold your ground if the terms are not in your favor. It's all about leverage.
Yeah, I don't think teams will avoid working with the Spurs at all. The league is really compe ive right now, not many great teams (or any), old contenders are in decline. There's nobody wanting to stonewall a Spurs team who is not yet a contender and has stuff people might like to have.
While true (and teams know we have pick surplus) the league is still over leveraged and teams will be in tear down mode. Deals will be there
Yeah, I think trying to resign Jak (unless TOR explicitly elects to not resign him) would do more damage to our trading ability than winning the Wemby sweepstakes. Someone was going to have to win that one, and from "insider" reporting it seems like a lot of teams are happy for the league it was us.
Can't go into the off season with that ultra conservative mindset. The goal is to look to improve the team at any time.
Lol Kyrie will never be a Spur. Ever.
I'd give it exactly 0.0% chance of happening. That's why I was surprised to see that tweet.
One sucky thing about life nowadays is how bookies are held up as gurus or predictors of events instead of people baiting you into wasting your money.
Between this and the Wembanyama for Chet and everything okc has, it feels like bizarro world today..
The Kyrie camp just trying to stir interest in him. No way in this ever happens
Lets just steal Austin Reaves from the Lakers. Lol.
The life of a bookie is a good one… you get to set odds for an infinite set of possibilities, no matter how remote the chances of them happening, and make a little money from some sucker who thinks that sounds like a good deal.
I’m setting the Spurs as the favorite to trade for Giannis this summer, and it pays 10:1. Any takers?
The 1989 model was a disaster. It out robinson in a win now mode right out of the gate and when it didn’t taken the first year or two, the surrounding cast collapsed and the team was devoid of any young talent. The team was too good to draft decent players because robinson dragged them to 50 wins year in and out, but the surrounding cast was so flawed they get exploited year in and out from 1991 to 1995 in the playoffs.
Don’t do it at all.
The spurs are in much better shape now than then. The boatload of draft picks will turn into one superstar either through draft or trades and a bunch of role players that can support the current core plus that future superstar.
If we got word that Scoot would be available at 3, and some team offered to send an all-star to Portland (like a Bradley Beal) in exchange for 5 1sts from us, with us getting pick 3 to draft Henderson, do you pull the trigger?
Obviously with fillers to make cap work.
You’d have to be convinced Scoot had Russell Westbrook’s athleticism with Jason Kid’s brain.
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