Same here. I remember the start of that season, joking "the Spurs should try to get this Duncan" guy thinking there was no way it would happen.
I was 26, working in Waco as a computer programmer. Travelled to San Antonio or Dallas a dozen times a year to see the Spurs play.
I remember researching Chauncey Billups, Tim Thomas and Adonal Foyle, wondering if maybe Keith Van Horn might be a good addition. Like this year with Victor, I didn't even watch Tim Duncan highlights. Like this year, I didn't even have any NBA fan friends to call when the Spurs won the lottery. Unlike 1997, I watched the lottery with my three kids and had people to yell and high five with when we won it.
Gonna be a fun time to be a fan coming up.
Same here. I remember the start of that season, joking "the Spurs should try to get this Duncan" guy thinking there was no way it would happen.
Man, after we won that lottery I didn't sleep for the next 2 nights.
lol if only they did this
Tank for Matas tbh.
Still maintain going Ignite is a bad decision for these guys. They're not coming in ready. We'll see about Scoot. I predict stats and flash but it'll become clear he needs work with the game part of basketball. What Wemby is getting is infinitely better.
Wrong
Charlotte is 2.
Way to cherry pick one post from a conversation about you wet dreaming about getting a top 10 pick from Charlotte. The context was that there was no chance the protections would be removed and then convey to us as a top 10 pick.
Agreed. That's why I preferred Brandon over Scoot tho I don't mind Scott but quite worried because he's coming from G-League. Playing for NBA G-League doesn't really help them to be tested compared to NCAA when it's more compe ive and when the game is on the line since they're playing there only for stats and highlights. Players drafted from Ignites within the lottery are so far underwhelming:
Jalen Green
Jonathan Kuminga
Dyson Daniels
That's why it's hard to trust Scoot's integrity in terms of being compe ive once he's in the NBA. Sure he's still young and can still improve but them playing in NCAA or something similar to Euroleague is still better for their early development when it comes to playing in a much compe ive league. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe he's another Jalen Green.
Also, just to add I kinda off with Scoot's recent statement that Spurs should consider drafting him #1 instead and it's a bit of red flag since it's a little bit of campaigning just like with Embiid (MVP) recently. I don't think that he's really genuinely happy to play with the Spurs (maybe at the start of his career) and it just happen that the Spurs are picking #1 - he'll probably say the same thing if Hornets, Blazers, Rockets or Pistons are picking #1.
jalen green has been pretty good. his efficiency has been poor but thats also not unexpected when playing on a team and being asked to be the primary option. he's been a 3 level scorer with playmaking ability.
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The reason the team is so is in large part because Jalen Green is so . He's absolutely awful unless he gets his shot going, and even then his shot selection is terrible. Don't give a if he's a 3 level scorer if his efficiency is really bad and he hasnt shown any playmaking ability at all. He has a long way to go if the team wants to win.
Jonathan Givony's Mock Draft Today (ESPN) and rumors.
SAS - Victor Wembanyama
CHA - Brandon Miller
POR - Scoot Henderson
HOU - Amen Thompson
DET - Cam Whitmore
ORL - Ausar Thompson
IND - Jarace Walker
WAS - Anthony Black
UTA - Jalen Hood-Schifino
DAL - Taylor Hendricks
ORL - Gradey
OKC - Nick Smith Jr.
TOR - Jordan Hawkins
NOP - Dereck Lively II
ATL - Keyonte George
UTA - Kobe Bufkin
LAL - Cason Wallace
MIA - Jett Howard
GSW - Rayan Rupert
HOU - Noah Clowney
BKN - Bilal Coulibaly
BKN - Leonard Miller
POR - James Nnaji
SAC - Kris Murray
MEM - Brice Sensabaugh
IND - Dariq Whitehead
CHA - Brandin Podziemski
UTA - Olivier-Maxence Prosper
IND - Colby Jones
LAC - Maxwell Lewis
DET - Jaime Jaquez Jr.
IND - Andre Jackson Jr.
SAS - Gregory Jackson II
CHA - Julian Phillips
BOS - Tristan Vukcevic
ORL - Ben Sheppard
OKC - Marcus Sasser
SAC - Trayce Jackson-Davis
CHA - Jordan Walsh
DEN - Sidy Cissoko
CHA - Dillon Mitc
WAS - Terquavion Smith
POR - Reece Beekman
SAS - Jalen Wilson
MEM - Amari Bailey
ATL - Kobe Brown
LAL - Zach Edey
LAC - Adem Bona
CLE - Keyontae Johnson
OKC - Mouhamed Gueye
BKN - DaRon Holmes II
PHX - Seth Lundy
MIN - Bobi Klintman
SAC - Coleman Hawkins
IND - Terrence Shannon Jr.
MEM - Julian Strawther
WAS - Hunter Tyson
MIL - Emoni Bates
Draft Intel - Prospects:
"Brandon Miller's camp says it is hoping he can do enough on his June 10 visit in Charlotte to convince the Hornets to give him assurances they'll pick him at this spot, something that might hinge more on how he performs in his interview arrived holding a legal brief written by his attorneys informing teams that he would not be able to comment on specific details regarding his involvement in the lead-up to the fatal shooting of Jamea Jonae Harris. It's the biggest factor holding him back from being the easy choice at No. 2"
"Sources say Scoot Henderson is also very interested in Charlotte's situation and would welcome hearing his name called second, as much due to geographic proximity to his hometown of Marietta, Georgia, as the excitement over new ownership that is potentially taking over the Hornets org"
"Cam Whitmore helped his cause by putting his tremendous physical tools and overall talent on display at the WME pro day in Santa Barbara, California. Pretty much every NBA representative in attendance walked away highly impressed by the considerable long-term upside he possesses"
"Many NBA eyebrows were raised last week when Jarace Walker called off his pro day appearance in Santa Barbara at the last minute, despite looking completely healthy. The immediate su ion among teams was that a team has elected to "shut him down""
"Although Jordan Hawkins is widely viewed as the top shooter in the draft, there's a bit of disagreement among executives as to where exactly he becomes worth the bet, whether that's late lottery range or further down"
"Dereck Lively II is another player who generated significant buzz at the Klutch pro day, appearing to be in outstanding shape physically, shooting the ball exceptionally well from the perimeter and bringing a degree of intensity and aggressiveness we didn't always see in his lone season at Duke. He'll have to validate that in private workouts, but the dearth of big men in this class gives him the ability to be a riser on draft night"
"Jett Howard is a bit of a polarizing prospect in this class, as he seems to have some real fans in NBA front offices, but also some teams weren't impressed at all with what they saw from him in Big Ten play as he was playing hurt"
"Rayan Rupert is being selective with the teams he visits, prioritizing roster fit and strong development situations on playoff-caliber teams rather than trying to be selected as high as possible"
"Brice Sensabaugh has been hobbled by a knee issue he suffered late in Ohio State's season, which required surgery and has thus far prevented him from conducting compe ive team workouts, a source told ESPN"
Draft Intel - Teams:
"There's been some chatter that the Orlando Magic might not keep both of their lottery picks -- they should certainly have options if they choose to try to move around"
"Most NBA executives expect the OKC Thunder to be active in trade discussions looking to potentially package the 12th pick and future first-rounders in an attempt to move up on draft night, which makes sense considering the shortage of roster spots the Thunder could be working with moving forward with all the talent they've ac ulated"
Very interesting comments.... Thanks for sharing that..
Jaden Hood-Schifino that high is definitely a surprise. Honestly it's nice to see someone go against the received wisdom. Most mocks have Cason Wallace there. There's some chatter about Cason's position is all over the place. Some see him as a good piece but not scalable to a lead guard. Others, of course, disagree.
OKC is worth keeping an eye on. They're a year or two ahead of us in the 'glut of assets' schedule. They almost have to start moving up in drafts.
Seems generally a lot of movement upward for Bufkin and Lively. was already in top 11 consideration and he could go higher, too.
If that Orlando 11 is up for grabs, the Spurs would have to hope they want future capital. Other teams can let them fall back slots.
I feel that if Hendricks is available to Dallas they keep the pick and take him.
As for the Spurs' picks, not that they're likely:
GG Jackson a huge drop here. The Spurs would be exactly right for him. Not so sure the other direction. He has good one-on-one skills but is a disaster as a teammate, is maybe even worse than Samanic in effort, and is terrible on defense. I could take a flyer on him if somehow they interviewed him and found a good kid who just needs to be goosed along for a while.
Jalen Wilson seems like a meh. Don't think he's athletic enough for the NBA. I'd much rather take Kobe Brown or even Bobi Klintmann and stash him in Sweden.
I wonder if two future firsts (CHA and a heavily protected 1st) + McDermott is enough to get Orlando to move off of #11. Might be worthwhile if two of Black/Cason/Bufkin are available there tbh.
I think top 10 protected in that scenario is reasonable. I also don't think they really want to rookies added to their team this summer.
Everyone thinks Bobi Klintmann got a wink wink deal as he pretty much shut it down after season ended.
I think we see at least 4 trades involving picks #2-14. Some early predictions:
-Portland moves off #3 (Siakam?)
-Detroit moves off #5 (Indy?)
-OKC moves into the top 10 (W/ Washington at 8?)
-Dallas moves off #10
-Orlando moves off #11
If the Spurs want to move back into the lottery, they'll have plenty of suitors tbh.
I don't think this would be enough. McDermott isn't worth much. Orlando probably wants to trade back and the Spurs have nothing there. Or they want to get something in the future and the picks you mention are worse than the one they're trading. They can get better offers.
And plenty of compe ion. More compe ion drives the prices up.
Our wallet is fatter than anyone except OKC.
Sure, sort of.
Most teams wanting to trade down in the, say, 3-11 position don't want to trade out. They want to trade down.
If teams want to trade out, we have a lot to offer. But for teams wanting to trade down, we ain't got anything.
Spurs are sitting pretty.
No. 1 pick in a one deep draft.
Pick #33 in a draft where that's the perfect value point.
Kinda think teams will try to get a ransom from the spurs if they do want to trade up into the lottery, especially since we got #1
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