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    Unpopular opinion: they won't draft a PG.

    I'm pretty sure of it.
    Prob not considering the cost it would take to move back into the lottery. And I don’t think the Spurs have much interest in Sasser at 33 tbh.

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    Another prospect who’s shooting up draft boards after a great combine showing is this kid O-Max. Grown man’s body at 6’9 230 lbs. with a 7’1 wingspan. Turns 21 next month. Defense is his calling card, but also excels at getting to the basket.

    Shot 34% from 3 last season, up from 16% his Freshman year, so he’s a quickly improving 3-point shooter with good form on his shot. Could be a great 3&D prospect down the line tbh, maybe more than that with his ability to get to the cup. Not sure he’ll be available at 33 after being one of the top performers at the combine/his Pro-Day, but if the Spurs stay there and he’s available, I expect them to seriously consider him tbh. A lot of upside with this kid.





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    I know we still have 19 days until the draft but it is curious we usually hear more about guys the spurs bring in, not everyone but more than we have so far.
    Historically the Spurs put out information to try to misdirect other teams. Maybe they realize nobody will believe them.

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    damn O-Max is one of the coolest monikers I've seen in a while

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    What about Cason Wallace? He seems solid
    can be solid too.

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    I know we still have 19 days until the draft but it is curious we usually hear more about guys the spurs bring in, not everyone but more than we have so far.
    probably because they have the #1 pick so there is a lot less to speculate about this time tbh

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    I really don't think the Spurs will turn into their 2008 selves just because they got Wemby. Wemby is not Duncan. He's not likely to be an MVP out-of-the-box player. He might bust. If it made sense to go for potential before the lottery, it makes sense now.

    I also hope and believe that the Spurs don't think about development in this way. Yes, some guys are more finished than others. Upside is a real thing. But it's not the case that players with higher upside have to have lower floors. Kawhi is a HoFer with a extremely high floor who went in the middle of the round. The Spurs screwed the pooch with Primo, but both Vassell and Sochan were players who had seemingly useful floors but who still show a lot of upside. I would liken Ausar in that boat, since his defensive ability and athleticism should translate. Even so, I don't think the Spurs should look at players like they're scratch-off tickets. There's not a "30 percent chance Player X lives up to his potential". That logic is made up. Instead, there's a roadmap a given player has to develop skills and physical traits to improve, and a team has to factor in both the player's willingness to put in the work and their own ability to provide the instruction and resources for the player to move along that roadmap.

    So it's okay if the Spurs pass on Amen because they don't think they can fix his shot. It's okay if they think Black can provide them more value than Ausar. Those are definitely the types of considerations that go into a draft board. But they're not actually quantifiable conditions, and trying to put a number to them in a desire to add an air of objectivity doesn't all of the sudden make real people behave like a RNGs. If the Spurs thought they and a prospect could work together on a roadmap that would make that player a useful asset to their team before they won the lottery, they shouldn't all of the sudden not believe that.

    Ultimately, all of these evaluations fit into the wider concept of BPA, and most of the factors shouldn't be any different now. There are examples for the opposite, sure. Drafting a player like Wemby can definitely alter the board given that they'd be taking a guy at a position where they already took a player last year. Trading up for yet another PF would be weird (so like downgrading Miller totally makes sense even if he might be downgraded a bit too much). But if there are players that the Spurs would've felt comfortable taking at three or later, they should still have the same grade, and most of them should still be right where they were on the board.
    There's no way Wemby can bust for me. His defense only will do it, and when you see his handles, moves and shooting touch, there's absolutley no way he can bust. the question imo is will he just be an HOFer or a Mount Rushmore player.

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    Only way Wemby “busts” imo is injuries, but that is a legitimate concern with him tbh. You just don’t see guys his size have long careers in the NBA. Rarely if ever. I can only think of a couple guys who were 7’4+ who played well into their 30’s, and that was Mark Eaton and Rick Smits. And they were both big, slow lumbering guys, nothing like Wemby who is frail and puts more pressure on his joints by playing like a Guard. He’s already dealt with some foot injuries in the past and I read he’s dealing with some back pain right now during the tournament he’s playing in. Not stuff you wanna hear from a 19 year-old. I know he was pretty durable this past season, which is great. And he takes great care of his body/feet with his trainers, which is also great and necessary, but sometimes it doesn’t matter. Big guys just don’t age well often times. We’ve seen it with so many players over the years. Hopefully Wemby doesn’t fall into that category, cause that would be a shame. This kid and potential to be the face of the league one day if he can stay healthy.

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    Obv Kareem was 7’3 and played til he was 41. That’s the dream scenario for Wemby, who has a similar build. But that’s extremely rare for a player that size.

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    I fear is the type to shaft us and shrivel in prime time, especially if we need a release from the pressure. The warts on will show in due time.
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    Could we bring Primo back if we got ?
    So we'd have a Primo lineup???

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    Really pretty different guards.
    Both are midrange shooter guards with hope to develop an ability to play minutes at the one position...

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    Both are midrange shooter guards with hope to develop an ability to play minutes at the one position...
    Not really.

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    Old video but Scoot securing that #1 spot. Lucky it didn't end up serious.


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    Another prospect who’s shooting up draft boards after a great combine showing is this kid O-Max. Grown man’s body at 6’9 230 lbs. with a 7’1 wingspan. Turns 21 next month. Defense is his calling card, but also excels at getting to the basket.

    Shot 34% from 3 last season, up from 16% his Freshman year, so he’s a quickly improving 3-point shooter with good form on his shot. Could be a great 3&D prospect down the line tbh, maybe more than that with his ability to get to the cup. Not sure he’ll be available at 33 after being one of the top performers at the combine/his Pro-Day, but if the Spurs stay there and he’s available, I expect them to seriously consider him tbh. A lot of upside with this kid.




    He's NOT 6'9", he's 6' 6.75" without shoes. Still good, but those crazy hyped up measures need to get real.
    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro

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    He's NOT 6'9", he's 6' 6.75" without shoes. Still good, but those crazy hyped up measures need to get real.
    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro
    Okay so he’s 6’8 and change with shoes on. Close enough to 6’9 lol. Still a solid prospect with good upside, especially in ye late First or early Second Round.

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    Obv Kareem was 7’3 and played til he was 41. That’s the dream scenario for Wemby, who has a similar build. But that’s extremely rare for a player that size.
    From what I've seen, Vic looks really strong for his build. I think the idea of putting bulk on him is a mistake. And after watching David Robinson's career, the health of his back is as critical as the health of his feet.

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    Johnson and their choice for a future 1st round pick for Orlando's 1st-round pick (number 6) and Suggs. Spurs draft, Walker.

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    Johnson and their choice for a future 1st round pick for Orlando's 1st-round pick (number 6) and Suggs. Spurs draft, Walker.
    Some dude on the Magic subreddit said the 6 and Gary Harris Jr. for Keldon. So it's done.

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    Just saw Anthony Black path to the draft. Man, he seems like such a Spurs type of player. He’s from Dallas so he is showing a bit of love to Texas. Also he was playing FIFA for a bit and of course Sochan seems big on FIFA on Instagram (Future BFF’s?). I bet the Spurs would love their own Josh Giddey. I would give up at least both of our first round picks (Ours and Toronto) for him. I just don’t think teams will be more reluctant to help us now unless the Spurs overpay.

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    Cason is from Dallas as well. I think both Black & Cason would be great pick ups, but Black's stock is on the rise and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets picked around 6-8. On the other hand Cason's stock seems to be falling a little bit, not for anything he did but because other guys are getting hyped up, like Bilal for example. I've seen Cason fall to around 15 in some recent mocks, that could become an interesting opportunity. So many good wings in this draft, let them have them. #BRINGONCASON

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    Too many are abusing the relaxed guidelines to around in this thread, it's time to get down to brass tacks . . .


    Okay so he’s 6’8 and change with shoes on. Close enough to 6’9 lol. Still a solid prospect with good upside, especially in ye late First or early Second Round.
    More like 6'7.75'' - 6'8''.

    I've never understood why in basketball people act like adding inches is fine, but otherwise isn't. Like, if a 5'9'' or 5'10'' person claimed they were a 6-footer, they'd be taken to task, yet 6'9'' and 6'10'' guys (especially the long armed types) are regularly called 7-footers and people don't bat an eye.


    Some dude on the Magic subreddit said the 6 and Gary Harris Jr. for Keldon. So it's done.
    To Warriors: Isaac, Anthony

    To Magic: Poole, Raptors '24 1st

    To Spurs: 11th pick (Magic)

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    Too many are abusing the relaxed guidelines to around in this thread, it's time to get down to brass tacks . . .




    More like 6'7.75'' - 6'8''.

    I've never understood why in basketball people act like adding inches is fine, but otherwise isn't. Like, if a 5'9'' or 5'10'' person claimed they were a 6-footer, they'd be taken to task, yet 6'9'' and 6'10'' guys (especially the long armed types) are regularly called 7-footers and people don't bat an eye.




    To Warriors: Isaac, Anthony

    To Magic: Poole, Raptors '24 1st

    To Spurs: 11th pick (Magic)
    Sounds like you are a 5’10” guy trying to pass as 6’ lol

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    Sounds like you are a 5’10” guy trying to pass as 6’ lol
    Nah, I'm significantly taller than either.

    I've just seen/heard that many times.

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    Could we bring Primo back if we got ?
    So we'd have a Primo lineup???
    What if Lively is also acquired thru some maneuverings.

    Primo Lively going to require a return of the Spurs Dancers?

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