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    Germany Begins Universal Basic Income Trial With People Getting $1,400 a Month For 3 Years

    Starting this week, 120 Germans will receive a form of universal basic income every month for three years. Business Insider reports: Germany is about to become the latest country to trial a universal basic income, starting a three-year study of how it affects the economy and recipients' well-being. As part of the study, 120 people will receive 1,200 euros, or about $1,430, each month for three years -- an amount just above Germany's poverty line -- and researchers will compare their experiences with another group of 1,380 people who will not receive the payments.

    The study, conducted by the German Ins ute for Economic Research, has been funded by 140,000 private donations. All participants will be asked to complete questionnaires about their lives, work, and emotional state to see whether a basic income has had a significant impact. A pro-basic-income lobbying group called Mein Grundeinkommen is funding the experiment. The group has used donations from its supporters to fund monthly 1,000-euro payments for 668 people since 2014.

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    Great timing, wasn't this studied in Finland not too long ago?

    https://www.kela.fi/web/en/news-arch...ntal-wellbeing


    Didn't know about this study in Canada:

    https://www.utpjournals.press/doi/pd...8/cpp.37.3.283

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    Germany's government has been running in the black for a few years, if memory serves.

    May as well see how this plays out.

    All the more reason to consider immigrating, tbh.

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    Love to see how many of these 120 participants are actually native German

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    the 1380 stupid bas s that signed up for not getting the $

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    UBI in USA is way too humane for inhumane, predatory, wealth-sucking Capitalists and 100Ms blindly indoctrinated, suckered into believing that Capitalism is the only way to organize society.

    The Capitalists KNOW UBI would would be paid for using what would be a reductinon their Capital income, which is amassed by rigging the economy, the tax code, hiring legislative s.

    If a person is not working to increase the wealth of Capitalists, then that person is expendable, eg, the unemployed, disabled, retired.

    iow, Capital is always ing over Labor.

    If you are on UBI, therefore not Labor-ing, then Capital says EXPENDABLE YOU.

    And of course, Capital is owned mainly by white males, so racism and misogyny are always in play

    btw, the only party that would ever propose UBI would be the Dems, and they would never propose it, even if they had control of Congress and the WH.

    eg, if the Dems run the table in November, they won't propose Medicare for All, never mind UBI.


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    Not-so-radical idea: upfront money solves problems directly.

    Money

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    People who got UBI worked more, not less.

    https://www.jainfamilyins ute.org/...milton-jfi.pdf

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    Won too five twenny huna dollas

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    Won too five twenny huna dollas
    We knew that would make you mad.

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    Won too five twenny huna dollas
    u mad bro?

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    We knew that would make you mad.
    Snakeboy does not like it when the riff raff rise above their station, especially if they have more melanin than he does.

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    Get TFO with that evidence man. j/k

    Make people more financially secure, they tend to work more. Pay for daycare, and you get more workers.

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    Real world empirical support




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    Real world empirical support



    It makes it easy for Germany with Hitler as their patented excuse to take 'er easy.

    Just shows ta go ya.

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    This is in Kenya. Like in the other studies posted here, recipients did not end up working less or blowing the money on consumption -- in the aggregate, they saved and invested.

    The first results from the world’s biggest basic income experiment
    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...e-tavneet-suri

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    LOL You want UBI you lazy

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    I dunno about UBI, it sounds great but I'm simply not educated on it.

    but if I was Black in this country taking a look at the national debt in the tens of trillions, I'd wonder why we couldn't have ever done some billions in reparations. They spend more than that on Ukraine.

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    I dunno about UBI, it sounds great but I'm simply not educated on it.

    but if I was Black in this country taking a look at the national debt in the tens of trillions, I'd wonder why we couldn't have ever done some billions in reparations. They spend more than that on Ukraine.
    Reparations is nonsense talk but what isn't nonsense is the amount of tax dollars we spread to the world, and most recently to Ukraine, when our reps don't bother cleaning up and fixing their own mess in this country. It's truly a sad state of affairs.

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    Reparations is nonsense talk but what isn't nonsense is the amount of tax dollars we spread to the world, and most recently to Ukraine, when our reps don't bother cleaning up and fixing their own mess in this country. It's truly a sad state of affairs.
    kori

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    I dunno about UBI, it sounds great but I'm simply not educated on it.

    but if I was Black in this country taking a look at the national debt in the tens of trillions, I'd wonder why we couldn't have ever done some billions in reparations. They spend more than that on Ukraine.
    The math isn't as hard as people think. The more social goodies, the more social good.

    Money is a necessity of life like food, water, housing, transportation and health care. Upfront cash immediately solves difficulties of life -- establishing a floor for the whole of society is a great idea.

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    I have a hard time believing the richest country in the history of everything can't afford it.

    What we really can't afford is the infinite greed of the rich. Unfortunately for us all, they've more or less bought out the political class.

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    Empirical support is linked in this thread.

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    LOL You want UBI you lazy
    You get paid by your mother

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