Official 2nd Round Draft Pick Thread

[JPB]

He looks like a high-effort, high floor role player.

Might be the greatest three and D guy ever if he could shoot (at all).

That's kind of why they're called 3 and D.

They can shoot.

[mo7888]

I really wouldn't be surprised if someone grabs Walsh in the early 2nd round. The round is normally pretty wild and he's great on one side of the floor. Not everyone has even that.

But I'd say for the 33 you're looking at players who tumble slightly out of the 1st round. Often those are upperclassmen who have ready-made skills. Or projects with significant (if not incredible) upside. Or dudes who just slip. Like... Tre Jones, for the stick he takes on this board, was a steal at 41.

I could even see Utah, indy, or the Clippers reaching for him late in the first..

[Uriel]

There’s a lot of good talent to be had at #33. Due to the inherent randomness of the pre-draft process, a lot of GM’s, for whatever reason, fall in love with off-the-radar prospects who never really pan out (our own front office has been guilty of this numerous times).

This means first-round talent will inevitably slip into the early-mid second round, which just so happens to be where both our picks will be.

[The Truth #6]

I’m interested in O Max and Walsh because I feel like they have some potential and skills, yes, but maybe more importantly the appropriate size. I admit that sounds simplistic, but I also feel like we have a bunch of guards masquerading. Walsh is sort of a poor man’s Sochan. Are we really gonna draft another short point guard? Another middling guard? Just spitballing.

[mo7888]

I’m interested in O Max and Walsh because I feel like they have some potential and skills, yes, but maybe more importantly the appropriate size. I admit that sounds simplistic, but I also feel like we have a bunch of guards masquerading. Walsh is sort of a poor man’s Sochan. Are we really gonna draft another short point guard? Another middling guard? Just spitballing.

If O Max is there at 33 it would be very hard to pass...

[Mr. Body]

I’m interested in O Max and Walsh because I feel like they have some potential and skills, yes, but maybe more importantly the appropriate size. I admit that sounds simplistic, but I also feel like we have a bunch of guards masquerading. Walsh is sort of a poor man’s Sochan. Are we really gonna draft another short point guard? Another middling guard? Just spitballing.

I hadn't really looked at Prosper, thinking him more a PF big. Yeah, he and Walsh would be great looks with those picks. I feel like O-MP is taking the spot where Walsh wants to be in the draft, pushing him back. Walsh is a couple years younger, as a freshman, and I feel like I'd go there first, but Prosper is a bit taller and possibly longer. He also seems like he's still growing into his basketball skills.

[Obstructed_View]

A lot of you guys are way too stuck on shooting. Sometimes you need role players to shore up team weaknesses. I remember when the Spurs just needed rebounding help and they signed Larry Smith. His rebounding contributed to wins. I assume their success with him was the reason they traded for Rodman.

[ismael-robert]

That's kind of why they're called 3 and D.

They can shoot.

I'm going out on a limb here but I'm gonna guess that's kind of why he said MIGHT be greatest if he could SHOOT

[Ariel]

Sounds like a pretty great deal for Denver, though I don't see what the protection is on the 2029 FRP from them. I guess Presti is hoping that a 34 year old Jokic isn't too good, which doesn't seem like all that great a bet to me.

His compe ive advantage is based on intelligence, skill, size, and work ethic. Those traits are the least likely to be affected by age. Given his frame, the real danger is health, if he can avoid typical big guy issues, he should play at a high level well into his 30s. Personally, I'd hold judgement on the deal until details on the protections of all picks (going both ways) come out.

[Ariel]

I’m intrigued by Walsh. Mostly by his defensive prowess, work ethic, and ridiculous athleticism. I feel like SRPs need to be fairly relentless to survive and make the most of their inherent challenges to get playing time. But who do you like more at 33?

I'm hoping someone slips to 33, but I wouldn't be mad at all if he's our choice there, depending on how the draft unfolds.

[Ariel]

Walsh is a couple years younger, as a freshman, and I feel like I'd go there first, but Prosper is a bit taller and possibly longer. He also seems like he's still growing into his basketball skills.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/comb...onYear=2023-24

Player	Hand Length	Hand Width	Height	Standing Reach	Wingspan
Jordan Walsh	8.75"	8.5	6' 5.75"	8' 11"	7' 1.75"
Olivier-Maxence Prosper	8.25"	10	6' 6.75"	8' 8"	7' 1"

[RC_Drunkford]

Nikola Jokic's agent also known as the Godfather of European Basketball mentioned Zvonimir Ivusic as a Wemby-lite type of player with a bright future. Something to watch, cause he'll probably go undrafted.

[playblair]

Well, he does look like he may be going through chemo.

[talkspurs]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

I might be one of the few but depending on who is left I might do this deal. Give us a look at hayes. Dont think Bagley has much value but has not played horribly. He just was drafted to high. Might be able to trade him for a late first to a playoff team or a first for him and a 2nd. If he doesnt work out we could cut him it would only effect this year and next year a little.

[Mr. Body]

Ain't nobody trading for Marvin Bagley.

[JPB]

Nikola Jokic's agent also known as the Godfather of European Basketball mentioned Zvonimir Ivusic as a Wemby-lite type of player with a bright future. Something to watch, cause he'll probably go undrafted.

Don't know about his future but his present is far behind Wemby. Playing like 10 mn /game in his local leagues for random role player stats, which is his high ceiling. Very raw, with not real skills or feel for the game and not as tall as pimped... A stiff. A end of bench, croatian skinny Jeff Ayres.

Note to self: Think about deleting this post if Ivusic pans out.

[RC_Drunkford]

Don't know about his future but his present is far behind Wemby. Playing like 10 mn /game in his local leagues for random role player stats, which is his high ceiling. Very raw, with not real skills or feel for the game and not as tall as pimped... A stiff. A end of bench, croatian Jeff Ayres.

Note to self: Think about deleting this post if Ivusic pans out.

yeah he said most people haven't realized it yet, but when he played a game against a turkish euroleague team he had like 23 points in 20 minutes or something like that. Who knows, but this is the guy who found Jokic, Boban and many others

[JPB]

yeah he said most people haven't realized it yet, but when he played a game against a turkish euroleague team he had like 23 points in 20 minutes or something like that. Who knows, but this is the guy who found Jokic, Boban and many others

Austin Dayes scored 25 pts once in the NBA ... Sure he got Jokic right but Boban is a garbage time, cult hero, living mascot... Not sure we can name the guy the godfather of Europe, he's probalby throwing names more than anything and seeing who sticks..

Ivusic withdrew from last year's draft and at almost 20 he doesn't seem to get much more interest this year. He's a draft and stash bet or G League prospect at best, and a long shot as a stretch/rim pretecting big if he can bulk up and develop a real reliable shot... A fraudulent 3rd big , but we already got Mamu, Barlowe and Bassey in that category.

[objective]

OSCAR TSHIEBWE

was listening to one of the Ringer draft podcasts and Tshiebwe to the Spurs was floated as a fun idea in the second round

I have to admit I like that idea a lot. Limited player, but could be of use as a specialist

[The Truth #6]

^ He might even go undrafted. Definitely worth an invite.

[RC_Drunkford]

Austin Dayes scored 25 pts once in the NBA ... Sure he got Jokic right but Boban is a garbage time, cult hero, living mascot... Not sure we can name the guy the godfather of Europe, he's probalby throwing names more than anything and seeing who sticks..

Ivusic withdrew from last year's draft and at almost 20 he doesn't seem to get much more interest this year. He's a draft and stash bet or G League prospect at best, and a long shot as a stretch/rim pretecting big if he can bulk up and develop a real reliable shot... A fraudulent 3rd big , but we already got Mamu, Barlowe and Bassey in that category.

I don't think you understand that this guy manages the majority of the top Euroleague players. He literally is the best in Europe. I also never said we should draft the guy, I only repeated what he said. Of course 1 game can always be a fluke, Joffrey Lauvergne dropped 30 on the Nuggets, but was hot garbage otherwise when he was here.

[CGD]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

Interesting— don’t love Bagley but I would do it. Theoretically addresses two needs: PG and burly PF. I’d offer 44 and like 3 of those pelican picks.

[JPB]

I don't think you understand that this guy manages the majority of the top Euroleague players. He literally is the best in Europe. I also never said we should draft the guy, I only repeated what he said. Of course 1 game can always be a fluke, Joffrey Lauvergne dropped 30 on the Nuggets, but was hot garbage otherwise when he was here.

I know who Misko Raznatovic is and I also know he has like more than 150 european players in his pool... That's why I'm saying he's throwing darts to see the one who will make it... If he was a real genius, he would have a smaller pool of players most of them current or fututre stars or NBA players, which isn't the case. He's just a smart businessman with a big web in Europe. How many of his 150+ clients will play in America and how many as valuable players in the NBA or anywhere? Less than 10%.. he has like half of Europe under contract, so ofc in that mass there's the few good ones.

Here is the list of his NBA clients:

Dario Šarić (2nd hand role player)
Ivica Zubac (2nd hand role player)
Goga Bitadze (scrub)
Marko Simonović (scrub)
Juan Toscano-Anderson (scrub)
Nikola Jokić (All time great)
Nikola Jović (scrub)
Boban Marjanović (mascot)

The jewel is obviously Jokic, that he first discovered in a newspaper and even him probably never imagined he would become the player he did, basically lucking into him... Otherwise his record is just 2nd hand to borderline NBA players, and that is for the 7 or 8% that actually play in the NBA (probably not for long for most). So I'm not sure I will take his opinion for granted when he pimps one his random clients who withdrew from the draft last year and may go undrafted this year as a "Wemby type of player". He knows that the kid ain't that great and that might be his last chance for the NBA.

[TD 21]

Interesting— don’t love Bagley but I would do it. Theoretically addresses two needs: PG and burly PF. I’d offer 44 and like 3 of those pelican picks.

Just what the Spurs need, two more players who can't shoot. They're also relatively pricey and given their draft pedigree (and Hayes' entering a contract season), would no doubt expect guaranteed rotation spots.

Bagley III is also not burly nor a pure PF. He's a combo big, who needs a floor spacing rim protector next to him.

[Mr. Body]

Interesting— don’t love Bagley but I would do it. Theoretically addresses two needs: PG and burly PF. I’d offer 44 and like 3 of those pelican picks.

Like I said Tre Jones is better than Hayes across the board. Graham is more useful than this. People need to stop jumping at busted lottery picks. They aren't going to stop sucking.