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    This offseason is shaping up to be just as wild and fun as last year's. Really looking forward to it AND glad we have Wemby coming in instead of planning of another year of hoping to be a facilitator to collect assets for future draft opportunities.
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    Minny has to trade him. He’s not a 4 and can’t play next to Rudy. Too slow on both ends.

    The only way KAT will be a net positive player is if you play him at the 5 and surround him with a strong defensive 4 and at least one other strong defender on the wing.

    I think Miami is actually a reasonable fit. Slide Bam down to the 4.

    It would probably take Tyler Herro and a 1st in a 3-team deal as I’m not sure Minny would want Herro since he and Ant are both position locked at the 2.

    KAT
    Bam
    Jimmy
    Strus
    Vincent

    Solid shooting, scoring and defense tbh.

    Other good fits would include.

    Cavs - Package centred around Jarrett Allen in a 3 team deal. KAT plays next to Mobley who will protect the rim and cover KAT on D.

    Grizzlies - KAT plays next to JJJ. Would need to include Tyus Jones and probably 3+ 1sts and a prospect or two.

    Thunder - Pair him next to Chet at the 4.

    Every other team in the league KAT would be a net negative imo he gives up to much on defense.
    KAT is not Heat material
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    Rumors are that Harden wants KAT to join him in Houston.

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    They deserve each other. Makes total sense actually.
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    KAT is not Heat material
    Butler is gonna go crazy with him around
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    Butler is gonna go crazy with him around
    Again…

    I forgot they already had beef.
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    Rumors are that Harden wants KAT to join him in Houston.

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    People who know people who know people in Houston say Harden and KAT to Houston is just waiting for July to get here.

    Fer ta couldn’t stomach the rebuild.
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    People who know people who know people in Houston say Harden and KAT to Houston is just waiting for July to get here.

    Fer ta couldn’t stomach the rebuild.

    If Minnesota can get the 4th Pick for KAT straight up, that’s a major win for them imo. Just getting KAT off the books alone would be a major win. Nobody’s winning with that dude as one of their 2 best players. Then they can trade Gobert this year or next to recoup some picks from that awful trade they made to attain him. Would basically be a “get out of jail free card” for their franchise with how horribly they’ve managed it with those KAT and Gobert’s deals alone. Would be a fresh start for them with Ant and whoever they draft at 4 (likely Amen Thompson) instead of pedaling in mediocrity for the foreseeable future and being basically a guaranteed Play-In team for First Round out, much like we were just a couple years ago.
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    If Minnesota can get the 4th Pick for KAT straight up, that’s a major win for them imo. Just getting KAT off the books alone would be a major win. Nobody’s winning with that dude as one of their 2 best players. Then they can trade Gobert this year or next to recoup some picks from that awful trade they made to attain him. Would basically be a “get out of jail free card” for their franchise with how horribly they’ve managed it with those KAT and Gobert’s deals alone. Would be a fresh start for them with Ant and whoever they draft at 4 (likely Amen Thompson) instead of pedaling in mediocrity for the foreseeable future and being basically a guaranteed Play-In team for First Round out, much like we were just a couple years ago.
    I agree that dumping anything for KAT is a win. Getting a top lottery pick would be unbelievable. But I think Gobert is good for them. What they paid is a sunk cost at this point, but he is a great defensive anchor. Just trying to solve him and KAT is pointless.
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    I agree that dumping anything for KAT is a win. Getting a top lottery pick would be unbelievable. But I think Gobert is good for them. What they paid is a sunk cost at this point, but he is a great defensive anchor. Just trying to solve him and KAT is pointless.
    I agree with that. Gobert is still a great defensice force, it was just nonsense to try an pair him with KAT.
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    It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I think KAT is a very good player. At least as good as prime Aldridge and not too far below Anthony Davis.

    All the talk about "soft" and "weak" applied to those other two guys too, and they ended up each being easily good enough to be the second-best player on a le contender. If the Wolves offered him to the Spurs for one of the Atlanta picks + Keldon and salary ballast I would instantly accept.
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    It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I think KAT is a very good player. At least as good as prime Aldridge and not too far below Anthony Davis.

    All the talk about "soft" and "weak" applied to those other two guys too, and they ended up each being easily good enough to be the second-best player on a le contender. If the Wolves offered him to the Spurs for one of the Atlanta picks + Keldon and salary ballast I would instantly accept.
    Anthony Davis issue is his performance in big games and most of the narrative is coming from LeBron fanbois. Aldridge is a better comparison but he at least played tough defense. The reason KAT is labeled soft is because of how he defends and his durability.

    He'd be a volume shooter on a bad team. I don't see the point.
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    People who know people who know people in Houston say Harden and KAT to Houston is just waiting for July to get here.

    Fer ta couldn’t stomach the rebuild.
    Well the makings of a deal are there with Rockets owning #4.

    Deal may probably look something like:
    - #4
    - two of #20, 2024 BKN Pick, 2026 BKN pick
    - one of Jabari or Green
    - one of Eason of Sengun
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    the Rockets going all in with KAT and Harden would be great. That's good enough for the franchise to stay mediocre for the next 5 years, while then falling apart and having to rebuild again
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    Well the makings of a deal are there with Rockets owning #4.

    Deal may probably look something like:
    - #4
    - two of #20, 2024 BKN Pick, 2026 BKN pick
    - one of Jabari or Green
    - one of Eason of Sengun
    Nah, that's a gross overpay, KAT won't command that much. Plus I very much doubt Ime will be on board with this, he's not that stupid.
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    It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I think KAT is a very good player. At least as good as prime Aldridge and not too far below Anthony Davis.
    Anthony Davis isn't even as good as prime Aldridge.
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    Anthony Davis isn't even as good as prime Aldridge.
    Not even close.
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    Spurs really are on a roster crunch. We have like two open spots maybe?

    Collins/Mamu
    Wemby/Sochan/Dom
    KJ/Doug/Julian
    Dev/Malaki
    Tre/graham/Wesley

    Do we think the spurs could simply sell #33 and use 44 on a two way? I’d be bummed with that but our roster is pretty much full
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    It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I think KAT is a very good player. At least as good as prime Aldridge and not too far below Anthony Davis.

    All the talk about "soft" and "weak" applied to those other two guys too, and they ended up each being easily good enough to be the second-best player on a le contender. If the Wolves offered him to the Spurs for one of the Atlanta picks + Keldon and salary ballast I would instantly accept.
    I disagree. KAT is an overhyped, overpaid center whose value is only on the offensive end and that too, not so much, in playoff moments. He is certainly not as good as prime Aldridge. He is a unique player with his three point ability but has under-performed relative to expectations/ contract. Aldridge took the Blazers perennially into the playoffs and was a good player for the Spurs. KAT has barely made it to the playoffs without help and has not done enough.
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    Spurs really are on a roster crunch. We have like two open spots maybe?

    Collins/Mamu
    Wemby/Sochan/Dom
    KJ/Doug/Julian
    Dev/Malaki
    Tre/graham/Wesley

    Do we think the spurs could simply sell #33 and use 44 on a two way? I’d be bummed with that but our roster is pretty much full
    Mamu, Dom, Julian all on the bubble, and not guaranteed a spot.
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    And McDermott and Graham aren't forever players.

    Yes, there's a roster crunch though.

    I don't think they'll sell the 33. It's too valuable.
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    Mamu, Dom, Julian all on the bubble, and not guaranteed a spot.
    with the way they played I believe the spurs will bring them back (not to mention KBD who I also think could be brought back as well)
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    with the way they played I believe the spurs will bring them back (not to mention KBD who I also think could be brought back as well)
    They played well enough to achieve the 2nd worse record in the league....they aren't guaranteed a spot...
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    Despite a crunch, I think the Spurs will pull two rookies out of this draft.

    That's a of a lot of young players. But they seem to have their heads screwed on straight. Keep two or three mentors and see what happens.
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    They played well enough to achieve the 2nd worse record in the league....they aren't guaranteed a spot...
    Guess we should get rid of everyone then…
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