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Yes, He looks better than Black offensively and he's good enough on defense.
I mean, only one of those teams had an All-Star level point guard.
Yes, He looks better than Black offensively and he's good enough on defense.
Bufkin may have the highest floor of the top lottery-type guards we're discussing. I've mentioned before that his last ten games he was over a 50/40/90 split. Not totally sustainable, but once the team focused more on him his impact was clear.
I'm not sure whether he can defer to others and distribute enough to be a lead. I do believe he can. Also, in interviews he comes off as very serious, able to talk about basketball at a high level.
Middleton was the primary ball handler on that Bucks team that won the championship, unless you think Vassell can become the primary ball handler of a championship team, he is nothing like Middleton, tbh.
For all intent and pourpuses guys like Lebron, Kawhi, Middleton, etc. where the PG's on those championship teams, that is, the guy that handled the ball the most in the perimeter, the guy that ran the pick and roll most as the ball-handler, the primary playmaker, etc.
You don't want to call those guys PG, fine, the Spurs do need to add that all-star perimeter guy, and that's a of a lot more important than adding a defensive PG that can keep defenses honest.
So you're just shifting now. No, we don't need an All-Star point guard. We do need good perimeter players. That's not a big surprise.
Not necessarilly a PG, just a perimeter guy in general that is a 3 level threat. It is easier to find in PGs though.
Never said that. In fact, I just proposed Bufkin as a guy I would be interested in.That this draft isn't a place even to get a good starter. Also disagree.
You haven't been paying attention to the NBA for the past 15 years if you think a championship team doesn't need a 3 level scorer perimeter guy on it's lineup.The mania for a point that needs to carry a huge scoring load and be a star -- just disagree fundamentally.
No, no, no. Not just "good", an all-star level perimeter guy that can score from anywhere. A guy like Black isn't that.
Forget about labels and semantics.
As I said, we need a pnr triple threat. Getting another nephew would obviously be way better than having a 6'3 guard do it, but those players don't come around very often.
Middleton averages 6 assists since Bucks became a contender while being an elite shooter of the dribble.
Since he started having injury trouble Bucks offense has been horrible to watch. Yeah, some of it is on Bud, but as good of a defender as Jrue is, he's not a scorer and it really hurt them these last two seasons.
Murray technically never made an all-star apperaance, but we're talking about a guy who just had a 30/10 game in the finals.
Steph needs no explanation and Lakers offense went to without another consistent creator next to Lebron.
Going all the way back to 2014, it was probably the best team basketball we've ever seen, but it wouldn't have been a thing without Tony/Manu being able to collapse defenses and get the ball going.
Athletic guards with questionable range are being phased out of the league. The only way it works is if for example Scoot becomes the next Westbrook and has ridiculous output to compensate for his lack of shooting.
Anything less than being an MVP candidate and he's not worth the money he's going to demand after his rookie deal. And not worth the pick.
That's why I'd prefer having a more or less guaranteed, but a bit overpaid player like Garland, than gambling with guards that are nowhere near being a guaranteed thing.
Wemby is the biggest prospect in decades, but still a risk. We need to enable him to become the best possible version of himself and you don't do that by surrounding him with rookie guards that have questionable shooting.
Forget guard, give me Jarace walker!
I'm very high on him...#3 on my board...
The disappointment in this thread when Spurs just sign Tre to an extension and let Sochan be the point to start the game
I don't think anybody expects us to trade up for a PG. There are guys we may like in certain ranges, but there's not a real expectation that we move up.The disappointment in this thread when Spurs just sign Tre to an extension and let Sochan be the point to start the game
How is Sochan supposed to defend point guards in this league?The disappointment in this thread when Spurs just sign Tre to an extension and let Sochan be the point to start the game
Easily?
The guy not being talked about tbh is Malaki as a PG. He played some during the season and did a great job the biggest problem is defensively but maybe Wemby helps clean that up.
Sochan full time on points is a terrible idea.
Wearing himself out chasing after SGA and Fox? Are you people serious?
He has switchability. That doesn't mean you want to stick him on foul-aggressive, fast guards all the time. He can't do it. You're going to wear him out. You're going to get him into foul trouble. He's not going to be able to consistently stay in front of them. On offense, his value is being faster than players his size. He's not an exceptional post-up guy, which is what you'd do if a guard switches onto him, and that's Wembanyama territory anyway. And then you take away his slashing ability against bigs.
Just, no. Why on earth would you think this could work?
As much as this forum loves to talk about his pg skills he’s not a full time pg. A change of pace or mismatch purposes that’s fine but he doesn’t have the archetype to hold the position for 40 minutes per game. Particularly lacks the handles and defensive speed.
I think people don't realize half the game is on the defensive side.
I edited defense speed because you’re right on point there.
He's 20. Will I want him doing it at 30? Probably not.
Imagine that there is a team running PnR between the PG and the center. Jeremy is guarding the point, and Zach, a very switchable center, is guarding their center. They switch, and there's no obvious mismatch, and 6 seconds left on the clock.
Good luck with that.
You want Sochan playing defense down lower anyway, where he can do more damage.
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