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I figured he was going overseas, somewhere.
He has signed with an NBL team and will play professionally. Probably trying to increase his stock for 2024.
I figured he was going overseas, somewhere.
I am really starting to feel Vukcevic at 33 now if he makes it. I believe Nnaji is going in the 20's now.
Real question - I don't know. Does Vukcevic give you anything that Mamukelashvili doesn't already provide?
I didn't pay enough attention to Mamu at the end of the season tbh, but I feel like Vukcevic is a better shooter at least.
That is a good question... Mamu is older and more mature which makes him better in the short term. He's also a better passer/playmaker. Vukcevic is younger, and his shot looks smoother. The age and outside shooting probably give him a better long-term upside. Barlow might be the better one to compare to if were talking about competing for a roster spot though.
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One of my pet cats in this draft. I hope he falls into our laps tbh, though I doubt it after his combine showing. Was underutilized at UCLA due to playing on a team full of upperclassmen. His best basketball days are ahead of him though imo.
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I don't really understand why Bailey hasn't cracked the first round.
Same. Could just be teams are trying to keep quiet on him hoping he flies under the radar. But his performance at the combine definitely caught scout’s attention. This draft is really deep with Guard/Wing prospects so we’ll see.
Not sure I see "NBA level burst" (or much else).
But bump him up, Spurs, it can only help.
What made Wesley worthy of an FRP that Bailey doesn't do? Seems like he'd be a great pick at #33, if not in the mid-20s.
My feeling is last draft was much better in the 2-14 range and then started falling off a cliff. With some exceptions. This draft is very iffy from 2-10 and then maintains value for a while with a gradual decline.
Yeah, the two best value points in this draft are right where the Spurs are -- Pick #1 and #33 (maybe even #44).
Hopefully, the Spurs won't trade that #33 or use it to move up.
And for the sake of having differing opinions- i dont think the last draft even sniffs at this one from 2-35. Im not saying its not 'iffy', its a draft, so by definition they all are to a certain degree... i just see this unlike anything we've seen in quite a while.
Seems like lot of things could happen from around 25 to 35 (or even 20-35 eventually) with players from equal values. Will depend on needs I guess. Could be some player to steal there.
Funny, I see the opposite. Remove Wemby and it looks lke a mediocre cuvée to me. Mostly role players with a few potential stars and quite a few busts.
Sure, to disagree.
I don't believe in the hype surrounding Scoot, the Thompsons, and Whitmore, and think Jarace and Hendrix are good PF prospects but have limited ceillings. Miller is a lot like Jabari to me, who was overrated. I don't like players that high who need to be activated by other players. Chet and Banchero are better than the whole bunch. Then we get into some iffy players from last year like Ivey, who I'd rate higher than the guys in similar position this year. I would take Sharpe over the Thompsons. Keegan and definitely Sochan over the PFs in this class. I wasn't big on Dyson Daniels and would rank him behind an Anthony Black.
Other than Jalen Williams, Duren and Williams, which are admitedly nice finds, the 11-20 range was just okay last year. A number of Dalen Terrys and Ogbachis and Griffins who are either not great (so far) or cap out as role players solely.
I do think there will be wild chops of the bat this year for guys like Clowney, but I think I favor most players this year post 11 than I did last year, and I do think last year ran out of juice really in the teens other than guys with promise like Branham and especially Kessler.
So maybe this year feels more evenly distributed because the top 10, post Wemby, are occupied by guys I think are overrated or have relatively low ceilings.
You're pretty firm in your view and reinforce it alot, so i just like to chime in every week or so with the opposite view that I hold so this place isn't just an echo chamber with one prevailing theme about the quality of this draft.
I do agree with you on Miller though, I'm not nearly as high on him as most pundits out there (#6 on my board in the 3rd tier). I could make a pretty good argument for dropping him to #10 though.
Jarace Walker is an area the we disagree on by a pretty wide margin. I have his ceiling as an All-star on a championship team. I have him 3rd overall, (and I'm struggling with moving him up to #2) I think he will have a better career than Banchero IF he has the mental makeup/determination to put in the work. Basically, I see him as having the ceiling of being a bigger Kawhi. I know that opens me up a little bit, but it's what I see. The mental side is my one concern, and it's the hardest thing to evaluate when you're not in the room.
I hope you're right about Walker. I do like him.
The thing is there are at least 40 first round quality players. Some will drop for certain, which means Spurs have a chance to snag a very good player at 33 if they just draft BAP, which I’m sure they will.
I agree about Miller too. But man I couldn’t disagree more about Scoot. I think he’s gonna be a Chris Paul / Derrick Rose level game changer. I would have drafted him #1 last draft for sure.
I didn't comment on Scoot. I believe he would have gone #1 last year. I still have him #2, but it's really close for me. If Jarace hits his peak, he's the better player, but Scoot probably has the higher percentage chance of hitting his ceiling...its a tough call for me..
Shooting. He may not end up doing much else but he has a chance to be a lethal elite level shooter. He can shoot over anyone. Is a good passer as well.
I think I would still roll with Mamu though because he has more unique skills for his size.
Official list of withdrawals and early entry candidates.
Thought Nikola Djurisic could be a stash candidate.
Good news: French PG/SF prospect Victor Wembanyama stayed in
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