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Wilt is the greatest basketball player of all time
how when snaq always puts kirby into top10, then has to put someone out of the top10 who has a better resume...
wilt needs to be out of the top10 list imo for a guy who is athletic freak but didnt win much as a his peers...dominant on the state sheet is all he is
as for snaq MDE...only win 3 championships
Wilt is the greatest basketball player of all time
statistically he stood out in a small sample size
15 seasons and 47859 minutes is a small sample size?
A lot of this and other bad tales are the medias fault though. They only cover stories that are easy to do and don’t deep dive when it isn’t. The Spurs organization has always been very tight knit and don’t share a lot of information. Tim was always very close to the vest with stuff also. This makes it hard for the journalist to do their job. Certain players and teams are more media friendly which helps promote them and their teams.
a perfect modern day example is this finals run the Nuggets have been on. They’ve been good all season and so has Jokic, and the media still seems surprised or doesn’t know how they do what they do. Lmao. Then you have all these talking heads who spew out uninformed takes and try to set the narrative that this finals will be boring and not get ratings. Funny enough it actually has had pretty good television ratings, but it’s not uncommon to hear casual fans of the league spew bad takes that they’ve heard from these talking heads about this finals.
the big sports media en ies definitely need to do a better job of promoting folks who actually know the league as a whole to assist with the talking heads who appeal to the causal fans. It should be no reason that Lisa Salters (who is an accomplished individual in the sports media field) should publicly state she didn’t realize how good a back to back MVP is. SMH.
You'll never change the minds of the Garnett-stans. Just because he was loud and flashy and would yell in people's face, casual fans view him as being the more aggressive and passionate player.
History speaks for itself. Duncan five rings with various casts both young and old, Garnett one ring and needed two HoF players next to him to get there. He doesn't get that ring without Pierce and Allen, and even then they came up short several times during their run.
There’s a lot of reasons why I believe it to be so but typically people point to 2 things to discredit him. His lack of championships. He “only” won 2. And his era where he was playing against midgets. Which is funny bc todays nba where Draymond Green plays center and is “short” and Rudy Gobert has way more height advantage than Wilt did in his era but he can’t dominate offensively at all.
One thing nobody brings up is his stamina. It’s literally the greatest of all time. There is zero argument on that. He averaged 48.5 minutes one season and 47.4 minutes another. There’s nobody else in the history of the league that is able to do that. And this guy traveled on regular buses, and flights, and played in ty Converse. It’s so remarkable that people can’t even fathom how difficult that is and just pass over this fact.
Then he had a great vertical and could outjump anybody. He was faster than anybody and he went after every rebound and every block and tried to score every play. People on his ball hogging ways and say he’s a stay padder but how tf do you statpad 25 rebounds a game? It’s impossible. And then to still have the energy to put up 45-50 points a game. He would dominate any era bc nobody had his motor at his size and his strength and his speed.
Jordans career high in rebounds was like 7 a game. Wilt nearly quadrupled that. Jordan’s highest ppg was 35. Wilt added 15 points to that and made it to the CF. There were no blocks during that time but it’s speculation that he averaged like 9 a game. Jordan averaged 1 a game. Assists Wilt had a better career high. Idgaf that his team lost to a team that had 9 HOFs on it. When Kobe and Shaq kicked Duncan’s ass in 01 and 02 nowhere did i hold that against Duncan. They were the better team. Same when Lebron lost to Durant and Steph’s Warriors. I didn’t think Durant was better than Lebron. He just had a better team.
The game was very different in the early 60s when he ran up these ungodly numbers. If you watch what little tape there is while the pace was high- no where near the intensity.
Little to no team defense.
Despite playing 48.5 he only averaged 1.5 fouls!
Also over 10% of players averaged over 40 minutes per game in 61/62
Today zero
I mean Duncan averaged 40 minutes. So did Kobe and so did MJ and Lebron. I have seen 40 minutes a game. But never 48 minutes a game for an entire season AND on top of that he put up godly numbers. I know pace was crazy back in the day but really pace was fast in the 70s and also in the 80s. Pace went down in the 90s. And really defense wasn’t great until the mid 90s to the mid 00s. Before and after that defense kinda was .
One measure of a player's dominance is how many rules did they change to keep him in check. Wilt had two. They widened the lane so he couldn't score as easily on putbacks, and they changed the rebounding ability of the FT shooter so that the ball must hit the rim before they can cross the FT line for a rebound.
You do know/remember that TD had two sprained ankles in those playoffs, right? He had a very bad ankle sprain going into the playoffs and then sprained the other one in the Sonics series, then had to battle against one of the best defensive frontcourts in NBA history (Spurs being the other greatest defense, but we couldn't play ourselvesI don’t think KG chokes as hard as Duncan did in game 5 of the finals tho
that s really ugly when rewatching). The point is, I don't think he was anywhere close to 100% physically going up against that frontline and still held his own. He may have had a bad game, but battled his ass off all series and took us home in game 7. His performance against the frontcourt IMO was great considering he was playing on two bad wheels.
people acting like going against a rotation of Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess is a cakewalk
May? Is.
Yeah, that knee injury towards the end of Year 3 was brutal.
And he did it with 2 sprained ankles.people acting like going against a rotation of Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess is a cakewalk
With Tayshaun Prince Rip hamilton Billups Hunter and others chopping down to double team.people acting like going against a rotation of Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess is a cakewalk
that 05 Pistons series i will ALWAYS hold up, as the pinnacle of th dynasty. that Pistons team was ridiculous.
a knee injury that prob wouldnt have set him back as much now as it did back then.
bad timing of medicine etc etc
Best DRtg of the 3-point era, with Robinson right behind him.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...tg_career.html
Manu at 50th is actually crazy
Yeah, people forget how good that 2005 Detroit team was-- they'd just dismantled the prime Shaq/Kobe Lakers the year before to win a championship, and got to the finals in '05 by beating the Wade/Shaq Heat, who themselves would go on the next season to win a championship. I'll always remember that 2004 championship series because nearly all the pundits had the Lakers, but Bill Russell picked the Pistons because of their defense, and a bunch of people online were clowning him and calling him a dinosaur who didn't understand the modern NBA.
The Shaq/Kobe Lakers that year beat the Spurs by waiting to double-team Timmy in the last few minutes of the games, which was the difference in the series. Timmy came into the next year completely unfazed by double teams, as evidenced by his performance against the Pistons.
The double teams were because Parker couldn't rise up in the PnR and hit the J. Both defenders went into drop coverage, doubling Tim. This directly led to Chip Englland being hired.
Timmy's problem with plantar fasciitis doesn't get much mention by anyone, much less casual fans, when discussing his career. Probably because he tended to play it down as a reason for his sub-par play at times. As anyone who has had plantar fasciitis can testify, it is damn near disabling at times. It took away Tim's mobility and jumping ability during his prime years. Yet he persevered and continued to play at a high level for years and won most of his championships after the onset.
I loved that Pistons team
Context: The O'Neal/Bryant dysfunction had reached a boiling point during '04 and Malone mostly (missed a game) played injured during the Finals, while both O'Neal/Wade (missed a game) got injured though played late in the '05 ECF.
They also benefitted from Duncan playing through two sprained ankles during the '05 Finals.
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