Latest Intel as Spurs Head into the Victor Wembanyama Draft

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/latest-spu...banyama-draft/

[BatManu20]

Interesting. Prefer Black, but would be happy with either Black or Bufkin. Kobe has a lower ceiling imo, but he’s grown on me over the past couple weeks. That sweet lefty stroke and strong midrange game would be nice to have beside Wemby. He projects as a good 3-Point shooter too with with his mechanics. He shot 35% from 3 last season. Guess that means they’re targeting trading into the 6-12 range. Wonder what that would cost us tbh.

Furthermore, two different league sources I’ve spoken to say the Spurs are one of the most active teams in trade talks heading into the draft. According to the league sources, the Spurs are telling teams their preference is to trade for another first round pick. If that’s unsuccessful, San Antonio has let it be known that they want to trade away at least one of their second round picks. If the Spurs get another selection in the first round, the names I’ve heard most often when discussing that possibility with NBA scouts are Anthony Black and Kobe Bufkin.

[poopbox]

Spurs making a push for Paul or Van Fleet...I hope not

[BatManu20]

I like that the Spurs are being aggressive instead of just sitting on those picks like OKC. I like the idea of bringing in a young guard to pair up with Wemby in the same year. Would them to grow together over their rookie contracts.

[BatManu20]

This is kind of disappointing tbh. Dumping 44 is fine, but this draft is deep with Guards/Wings and there’s going to be a handful of good players still available at 33. I get the roster crunch, but that’s a valuable draft pick, would prefer we cash in on it instead of trading it for yet another future 2nd Rounder or two that will almost certainly be lower/less valuable picks. Trading back into the lottery to take Black or Bufkin would ease the sting though.

Keeping pick No. 33 if someone the front office likes falls into their laps is a plausible outcome. But, from what I’ve heard, keeping 33 and 44 is unlikely.

[duncan2150]

The part with Paul or Van Vleet is interesting, i really don't think the Spurs will try to add a vet but i could see the thing now . Still look a little bit akward to have Paul Or FVV and Jones imo.

[mo7888]

I cant really see the Spurs 1) resigning Tre, 2) trading up for a PG, and, 3) getting Paul or Van Fleet. Two of those 3 I can see, but not all 3..

[BatManu20]

God I really hate Chris Paul. Always have. Would burn my eyes to see him in the Silver & Black tbh.

Van Vleet’s a chucker whose shot selection isn’t great either, and he’s not the greatest defender either, but he competes on that end. Raptors fans really turned on him this season as his shooting #’s dipped to the worst of his career, but I think that had more to do with him having to carry more of the load with Toronto struggling this season.

He’s still considerably better than CP3 at this point in their careers as he’s 8 years younger. I still remember him saying “ Pop!” on Kawhi’s Instagram Live during their championship parade

I assume CP3 will be their first target and then FVV if that doesn’t pan out.

When free agency opens, a scout for a Western Conference team believes the Spurs will make a hard push for either Chris Paul or Fred VanVleet. He posits that the opportunity to pair Wembanyama with an experienced playmaker at point guard will ultimately be impossible for San Antonio to pass up.

[rankingtear]

Bufkin does fit their standing reach requirement for guards. Young sop re like Devin. 50 40 guy in the last stretch of the season like Branham. Has bankable offensive skill. Creativity of a lefty.

[duncan2150]

I cant really see the Spurs 1) resigning Tre, 2) trading up for a PG, and, 3) getting Paul or Van Fleet. Two of those 3 I can see, but not all 3..

Best thing will be 1 and 2 imo, and i prefer FVV to Paul right now. I think Paul doesn't fit with the roster timeline, FVV a little bit more.

[duncan2150]

God I really hate Chris Paul. Always have. Would burn my eyes to see him in the Silver & Black tbh.

Van Vleet’s a chucker whose shot selection isn’t great either, and he’s not a great defender either. Raptors fans really turned on him this season as his shooting #’s dipped to the worst in his career, but I think that had more to do with him having to carry more of the load with Toronto struggling this season.

But he’s still considerably better than CP3 at this point in their careers as he’s 8 years younger. I still remember him saying “ Pop!” on Kawhi’s Instagram Live during their championship parade

I assume CP3 will be their first target and then FVV if that doesn’t pan out.

I understand your take but FVV is a good defender, could be abused because he's small but he's a 2 stl 0.5 block guy. The biggest weakness for him is that he can't score except with 3's and some FT's.

[Dejounte]

CP3 definitely fits the roster timeline if you want the team to grow any structure at all as opposed to last season’s “anything goes” offense.

[buttsR4rebounding]

So they want to re-sign Tre, draft Black or Bufkin, and sign either Paul or Van Fleet. If they look at Black/Bufkin being the long term solution then it seems signing Chris Paul would be less costly and likely shorter term commitment than Van Fleet.

[BatManu20]

I understand your take but FVV is a good defender, could be abused because he's small but he's a 2 stl 0.5 block guy. The biggest weakness for him is that he can't score except with 3's and some FT's.

Yea he competes on that end. He just struggles to defend quicker players, especially at his size. He’s still better than CP3, and more importantly, more reliable to actually play games. I’d gladly take him over Paul, who’s one of my most hated NBA players ever tbh. But I’m sure PATFO prefer Paul as their first option. Convincing him to come live in SA and okay for a rebuilding team is another story, but then again he did it with OKC. He’s proven he cares more about money than winning, so wouldn’t be shocking to see him come here tbh.

[duncan2150]

CP3 definitely fits the roster timeline if you want the team to grow any structure at all as opposed to last season’s “anything goes” offense.

Having a 38 yr old PG with this young team don't make sense for me but i'm totally ok with your take about the offense . I don't see Paul coming to SA btw.

[Dejounte]

Having a 37 yr old PG with this young team don't make sense for me but i'm totally ok with your take about the offense. I don't see Paul coming to SA btw.

I think the team is going to start piling up on old vets tbh. We don’t want Wemby around a team that’s always trying to figure itself out. The team needs an iden y fast, and the idea of having the whole roster “grow up” with Wemby is a bad one. He only needs like two or three guys to grow up with. It’s not like the Spurs big 3 were all the same age to begin with. They had decent age gaps between them

[lefty20]

God I really hate Chris Paul. Always have. Would burn my eyes to see him in the Silver & Black tbh.

Van Vleet’s a chucker whose shot selection isn’t great either, and he’s not the greatest defender either, but he competes on that end. Raptors fans really turned on him this season as his shooting #’s dipped to the worst of his career, but I think that had more to do with him having to carry more of the load with Toronto struggling this season.

He’s still considerably better than CP3 at this point in their careers as he’s 8 years younger. I still remember him saying “ Pop!” on Kawhi’s Instagram Live during their championship parade

I assume CP3 will be their first target and then FVV if that doesn’t pan out.

Thought it was Nephew's friend, Jeremy Dingleberry, who yelled that.

[Mr. Body]

Now that timvp is leaking Black and Bufkin as targets, I have to rethink whether I've been completely wrong.

[Rubberducky]

The top free agent targets are hated Chris Paul and the guy that said “F Pop” to a camera. Awesome.

[BatManu20]

You’re famous timvp

[lefty20]

The top free agent targets are hated Chris Paul and the guy that said “F Pop” to a camera. Awesome.

It wasn't FVV, but he doesn't exactly discourage Jeremy either.

https://www.opencourt-basketball.com...-and-vanvleet/

[RC_Drunkford]

draft night will be intersting. A lot of trades coming up. Apparently a couple of contenders like the Sixers are interested in Van Vleet, but the Spurs can offer the most money. I'd rather prefer a short term solution like CP3.

[SpursFan86]

I cant really see the Spurs 1) resigning Tre, 2) trading up for a PG, and, 3) getting Paul or Van Fleet. Two of those 3 I can see, but not all 3..

Yep - this was my first thought as well. I understand the need to invest in the PG position, but why in the world would we throw ~$10-15MM a year to re-sign Tre, then spend considerable draft capital to move into the 1st round to take a PG, and finally to top it off spend $20MM a year to bring in a big PG FA? Makes no sense IMO. I’d lean towards option 1 + 2 personally.

[spurs1990]

coach getting 3 years 42mil with 0 playoffs in 4 years while Rivers and Budhenholder being shown the door.

As Derek Anderson once said - Loyalty

[exstatic]

I cant really see the Spurs 1) resigning Tre, 2) trading up for a PG, and, 3) getting Paul or Van Fleet. Two of those 3 I can see, but not all 3..

Remember, the CP0/Van Vleet conjecture was some OTHER WC GM, not his Spurs source.