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    I have issue overpaying with picks. As long as we don’t move any core players. This is the wrong time to move Keldon. I’m fine with moving any other lower level players and picks if need be. I think it’ll take 2 firsts and a second plus a bench player.

    I don’t see Black falling past Washington unless someone makes an unlikely slip.
    the Wizards are probably going to do a full rebuild and trade Beal though. So they a candidate to move up. Spurs could get involved in a lot of 3 team deals

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    Here’s hoping we truly are going for another Lottery pick, seems like every year they say we’re one of the most active teams aiming to move up though. Black or Kobi would be so sick

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    If there's a year to move up, this is it. They have the assets and there are at least a couple of nice players that are IMO underseeded in terms of where they will go.

    The 6 or 7 might be available, but would IMO require Keldon Johnson. While I feel he was the next guy in the move-him-to-a-better-team train, we now are the better team. But I do feel that Orlando and Indiana would think about a Keldon + a pick.

    Much more likely is the 10 or 11 or something later. Thing is, Spurs only really have Keldon or Collins to trade and I don't think Collins is on the table. It would have to be picks.

    Then there's always the 'Spurs throw out smokescreens, not real signals' thing.

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    Leonard if asked by Chris Paul about spurs medical staff
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    I like the idea of adding cp3 or van vleet. Obviously the goal there is not necessary to win a championship but to bring structure and someone to teach Wemby the ropes.

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    Who knows, maybe these rumors/smokescreens sent out via Timvp are to let VW know we are trying to “win now” (his goal) as a way to make him feel like we’re not sitting back. So, given the FO’s history of secrecy, hard to say what to make of these rumors. Could be spin. Don’t get me wrong, I like Black and Buffkin, but enough to trade Keldon and more than one first round draft pick?? It’s hard to say either of those players will be better than Keldon.

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    Yea Black is about the only player in the lottery I’d be willing to trade assets for personally. If they deem it too expensive and decide to instead trade up into the early teens for Bufkin, so be it. I’d still be happy with that too, as long as we don’t overpay for him. But I agree that this is the year to trade up for a PG if we’re going to do it.

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    "I watched Monaco a couple times in person this year and they’re a talented, tough-minded team with a handful of players who have NBA level abilities. There’s no shame in losing to that bunch."

    I thought someone (Bruno?) posted they 'have a couple NBA players.'

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    Yea Black is about the only player in the lottery I’d be willing to trade assets for personally. If they deem it too expensive and decide to instead trade up into the early teens for Bufkin, so be it. I’d still be happy with that too, as long as we don’t overpay for him. But I agree that this is the year to trade up for a PG if we’re going to do it.
    Early teens = Lottery.

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    Who knows, maybe these rumors/smokescreens sent out via Timvp are to let VW know we are trying to “win now” (his goal) as a way to make him feel like we’re not sitting back. So, given the FO’s history of secrecy, hard to say what to make of these rumors. Could be spin. Don’t get me wrong, I like Black and Buffkin, but enough to trade Keldon and more than one first round draft pick?? It’s hard to say either of those players will be better than Keldon.
    The value of veterans is really high, though. I could see the team trying to pick up Mills or even Batum, both of whom are on the last year of their contracts. McDermott and Graham seem like exceptional dudes to have, if they remain.

    It's not just having players who are great locker room guys, who show how to prepare every day, stay even keeled, eat well, all that stuff. And the team is already filled with good kids, it seems. But having good veteran play actually on the floor is a step up from having good bench guys. I'm skeptical about Paul or another big name, but having a fella who can be emulated in tight game situations is vastly better than a bunch of 20 and 23 year olds trying to figure it out by themselves or waiting for the next time out.

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    "I’ve been told that he has stated a strong preference that the team re-signs Tre Jones.
    Even if Jones isn’t a long-term solution as a starting point guard, Popovich is said to value what Jones brings to the locker room and views him as a fearless compe or who can positively impact winning."

    Pops Pets nonsense needed to end 23 years ago.
    But now moving fwd it cannot be entertained, period.
    If Trey is the best PG the Spurs can roll with, so be it.

    If you can get a better PG, including a young un who will be better then Tre soon, you do it.

    Also stop with the CPO nonsense.

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    Early teens = Lottery.
    True lol. Meant Top-10*. Bufkin prob goes in the 11-15 range.

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    Any insights into what veteran or the position Spurs are looking at in the trade market?

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    "I’ve been told that he has stated a strong preference that the team re-signs Tre Jones.
    Even if Jones isn’t a long-term solution as a starting point guard, Popovich is said to value what Jones brings to the locker room and views him as a fearless compe or who can positively impact winning."

    Pops Pets nonsense needed to end 23 years ago.
    But now moving fwd it cannot be entertained, period.
    If Trey is the best PG the Spurs can roll with, so be it.

    If you can get a better PG, including a young un who will be better then Tre soon, you do it.

    Also stop with the CPO nonsense.

    Trae is a good backup PG who can fill in as a situational starter. He’s improved considerably over the past 3 seasons. He’s a heady player who’s a good culture fit in the locker room. I have no issue with Pop wanting him back, so long as we don’t vastly overpay for him and Pop doesn’t give him minutes over a potential Rookie PG with more potential, say Black or Bufkin.

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    I reckon Paul will be chasing a ring and not willing to be a 'teacher' for our new addition. I like the idea of trade up for Black or Bufkin. Now is the time.

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    I have no issue with Pop wanting him back, so long as he doesn’t give him minutes over a potential Rookie PG with more potential, say Black or Bufkin.
    Recent history doesn't bode well.
    Patty Mills.
    Bryn Bryn Fobes.

    Can Pop be trusted to play the most deserving players in this twice-in-a-lifetime Timmy Duncan II chance?
    I wish i could say yes and i hope the answer turns out to be yes.
    As long as he's being monitored and someone will step in and rule out favoritism and idiot moves, fine.

    I'd much rather a kick ass PG be found sooner rather then later.

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    “He’s that type of player and, more importantly, that type of person.”
    That's another great aspect of Wembanyama that makes him even more the real deal.

    I should have watched a couple of hours of Wembanyama various interviews, which is way enough to go past any potential BS talk put in his mouth by agents, and he is also damn impressive off the court. At 19 years old, he is mature, ambitious/confident without being y, focused, smart and with a tremendous work ethic.

    The fact that he is coming from a basketball family is also very important. He wasn't a kid that played basketball because he was tall. You can feel that he truly loves this game and wants to understand every nuance of it. Wembanyama put also a huge focus on his physical training which isn't surprising with his dad being a former physical trainer for teams in France.

    Wembanyama knows he is something special and has the upside of becoming one of greatest. He is committed to reach his highest level possible. He won't become lazy/happy. He just has that drive.

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    That's another great aspect of Wembanyama that makes him even more the real deal.

    I should have watched a couple of hours of Wembanyama various interviews, which is way enough to go past any potential BS talk put in his mouth by agents, and he is also damn impressive off the court. At 19 years old, he is mature, ambitious/confident without being y, focused, smart and with a tremendous work ethic.
    What not growing up with U.S. hoodrat culture does for you

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    Vegas has the Spurs with the best odds to land CP3.


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    Big disconnect between what spurs officials hinted at…

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    a “western conference” dude

    also PLEASE no chrissy paul

    hes done-period.

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    Trading pick #44 for cash only won't be a big deal, but it would be lame as . Spurs are already the team with the lowest payroll. Ownership doesn't need a couple of $M.

    They could use one of the three two-way spot on pick #44 or draft and stash someone. Even if this player has, let's say, a 5% odd to turn into an useful player, it would still be a way better move. What is sure is "cash" has a 0% odd to turn into an useful player.

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    Big disconnect between what spurs officials hinted at…

    and

    a “western conference” dude

    also PLEASE no chrissy paul

    hes done-period.
    People keep missing that timvp references other sources than the Spurs, an anonymous EC GM, an anonymous WC GM. Reading for context is everything.

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    Sometimes I wonder if timvp just likes to include some catnip for the forum in his articles

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    We shouldn’t trade any draft capital for Anthony Black. We could get a legit second star with our Bulls, Raptors, and our own FRP. Heck even the Hawks pick could set us up for a future star. You don’t waste picks for an unknown.

    But, if we are trading for Black then signing Chris Paul is a no brainer. Puts Black as the back up to learn from Paul and Pop. Paul will be a big brother to a young black American. Sign Paul to a 3 year deal with the third year a team option. I would let Tre go if this is the case. We don’t need Tre. Even if we strike out with Paul, if we get Black then we need to drop Tre and sign Lowry as the back up.

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    Strange as it may sound, I think CP3 fits the Spurs timeline better than FVV does. Neither are a long-term answer, but CP3 probably won't demand a 4-year contract and is better for teaching this team how to win.

    I'd take Lowry over FVV too. He'd be in the same role as CP3 would.

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