paul is done
and is a cancer
They may need to sell the pick, yeah. It's sort of a gimme, since it came in the Poeltl trade. Maybe they can flip it to a team that badly wants a shot at a player this year. Chicago, New York, and Philadelphia don't have any picks at all this year. Not sure what future SRPs they have to trade. Four other teams only have a single draft pick that occur later than the 44 and Boston has only one SRP and it's the 35.
Not true. You can buy a 2nd rounder later who might turn into a useable player.
I would rather cash out pick #44 than use it on a player that has a 5% chance. If you make the pick, and the player is a whiff, that asset is gone forever. We literally will NOT be able to make selections with all 32 picks we have lined up for the next 7 drafts. That's more than two complete NBA rosters, plus the players we have under contract now, a third roster.
There's no reason to believe the Spurs would be more likely to buy a pick later if they sell a pick now. They should have plenty of money in the budget either way. Cash received is just for the owner's pocket. It's not a direct basketball asset, and a team like SA that is likely to run well into the black this year given their low payroll but also massive intrigue shouldn't need to worry about pinching pennies. I'd far prefer them use the pick to actually take a guy they want on a two-way rather than trying to poach one from another team. I don't particularly put any stock into the report that the Spurs don't want to use the picks (it's reasonable but I don't think any source who'd talk has any informed idea). But I think 33 is the far more likely pick to move. It'd be very shocking to me to see a team get a guy drafted in the upper 30s to sign a two-way, but 44 is likely within the cut-off. The Spurs may sell 44 like they did last year, but even in that case, I think they'd want to get off 33.
Welllllll, we didn't actually sell the pick last year, we got some cash, and the Lakers 2024 SRP that Memphis had in their pocket. They paid cash and a pick, and cut Kenedy Chandler in April.
The 33 has some value in a trade-in. Say, if they're close to getting something done with Dallas, who wants players for this next season. Say, the Spurs get one of Brooklyn's picks and uses that to get to Dallas, the 33 might push them over the line.
Yep. I am aware of that. It's a second for next year belonging to LAL. I do consider that selling the pick. It doesn't match what Bruno was talking about, but it does align with how I interpreted timvp's article. I think they have good reason to just draft at 44 rather than trade it (for cash and/or a future pick). The most likely justification for them keeping 33 would be because of the saturation of tradeable picks in that range already. The value might not be there.
i don't really know what intel is being leaked and whether or not any of this info is credible. also, could the spurs be putting it out there that they have an interest in certain players in the draft when they may be targeting someone else entirely different?
Yes, it's possible this is all smoke screen.
Although I do think the Spurs will likely draft Wembanyama.
1 was always a given (as was interest in Black), 2 is probably a puncher's chance (Bufkin, who likely won't cost as much) and 3 probably only happens if 2 fails and even then, it's probably someone like Micic.
timvp what is your personal opinion on SA and FVV or CP3 types? I will puke if Sa punts their flexibility for guys like that right now.
If you’re going to do that just trade for Lillard then or something like that
Yeah, 33 is a good asset. It’s probably also worth “ranking” all the other future picks the spurs own. I imagine some project to be in the 30s too.
If the Spurs don't trade up this draft, I think there are good players spilling from not being picked in the first round to be worthwhile and not reaches. I do think the Spurs will come out of this draft with two rookies.
If we make a trade, I would like to have Bilal Coulibaly. If not him, I would be happy with one of those point guards.
I like any of Bufkin, Black, and Cason Wallace tbh. Hopefully they can buy back into the 1st and get their guy without giving up the farm.
It’s just hard for me to imagine CP3 coming here. By all accounts he wants a chance at a le. He’s accomplished everything aside from that - why would he spend his last 2 seasons in SA being a fringe playoff team? Just can’t see that happening even if we were willing to toss a ton of money his way.
That being said, I wouldn’t mind having him on a 1-2 year deal. Seems unlikely we’ll need that cap space anytime in 2023/2024 and for all the flack he gets, he’s one of the best guards to ever play the game and could absolutely be a good mentor for the younger guys on the team. It’s not like we’re paying him a bunch in hopes that he leads us to a leAll the talk of him being a choker or always injured in the POs seems irrelevant in this scenario IMO.
One valid concern is that having a ball-dominant guard could stifle the growth of the other guys, but again we’re not talking about leaning on CP3 in a major way here. 50-60 games of old CP3 playing 25 minutes a night leaves plenty of opportunity for others.
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NSJ is still my guy for PG if we trade up.. hes got quick twitch first step that none of the others have...willing defender and good positional size...
Interesting write-up Timvp.
I like the idea of the Spurs trying to trade up into the first round and trying to pursue a player like Black.
Chris Paul in a Spurs uniform would be interesting to see. I imagine CP3 wanting to ring chase at this point in his career. I'm thinking about Tony when he went to Charlotte, and that's about where I'm placing Chris Paul's ability to firmly contribute next season.
Getting a lead veteran guard should absolutely be at the top of the priorities. For anyone who has actually played the game, a PG that can control tempo and keep the team in the right mindset is essential for growth and morale. We didn't have that at all last year. I love Tre, and do hope they keep him because he's the right type of player. He's a patty mills type of role player.
The team lost all focus and function with him at the lead far too many times. He never could get them settled and on pace when the pressure was on. That's toxic for developing your franchise.
Wemby will bring the media and attention to SA like never before. They'll all be rooting for him or against him, but he will be on highlight reels non stop for better or worse. A veteran take control presence will do Wemby wonders as he acclimates to the best league in the world gunning for him on a nightly basis. There's a huge mental aspect that veterans will help keep him grounded. He's still just a kid and about to have more pressure on him than any kid since LeBron. Definitely a need to bring established vets to help keep the boat right through troubled waters, both mentally and physically.
We have plenty of money, and time for wemby to be supported as much as possible. Not sure why you wouldn't want to do that.
Spurs need to get in on the emerging Beal trade situation as a facilitator. Have a feeling the bas will in Miami somehow.
If miami takes Beal (46M), they'll need to send Herro + Robinson + picks ($46M). If they want to resign their FA's theyll need to reduce Lowry's contract. Graham for Lowry might make more send for them then and wed have a vet PG for a year.
Can't we just absorb Lowry outright, for like a late SRP? Or just swap Khem? I don't like giving up Graham both for play and contract value. I'd much rather go for Lowry than FVV, who doesn't appeal.
I think you're alone in that thought, or, embarrassed at being caught in an inaccurate statement, you're just taking a position.
Kudos to the Wizards for finally tearing it down and building from base.
They should have done that when they sent Wall out.
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