The Only Seven Prospects the Spurs Would Select if San Antonio Trades for Another First Rounder

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/players-sp...nd-2023-draft/

[spurraider21]

Trading up for Jerace would be pretty dumb. But glad they seem locked in on getting a PG or at least the combo guards who show PG upside. With wemby/Sochan/Vassell we don’t necessarily need a dominant pg who can blow by guys, etc. if they can run a good pick and roll that’s good enough.

Hood Schifino and Bufkin are the best of the realistic targets even though black is my favorite

Coulibaly is interesting but seems too risky imo. But that pick would more or less cement a keldon trade down the line

[MultiTroll]

Coulibaly is interesting but seems too risky imo. But that pick would more or less cement a keldon trade down the line

Did Coulibaly get exposed in that final series?

Or too hard to tell as outside of Wemby and Couli they had no help?

[kht]

I'm guessing all of these guys are a "2 for 1" swap (two future firsts for the current firsts).

[kht]

Did Coulibaly get exposed in that final series?

Or too hard to tell as outside of Wemby and Couli they had no help?

I mean he is 18 years old. Remember when you were 18 years old...

[MultiTroll]

I mean he is 18 years old. Remember when you were 18 years old...

Oh i do and with Wemby being only 19.

I'm not down with the Play Big Minutes we must let Wemby have a shot at ROY.

Health and development should be far and way the #1 priority this season.

But ya does Coul have NBA potential or not?

[BatManu20]

Been wondering why JHS hasn’t been getting more love on this board. He looks like a solid PG prospect to me, especially with his 6’6 frame, and would be a solid consolation prize if we can’t land Black or Bufkin imo.

But yea, I still prefer Black or Bufkin at the end of the day. If we can acquire either of those guys without giving up Keldon, that’d be a slam dunk imo.

Jarace would be dumb to trade up for. Don’t see that happening at all.

I’m still not as high on Coulibaly as most. He’s played one good game that I’ve seen so far. He’s been a JAG every other time I’ve seen him play. Youth and athleticism are there, but if I’m giving up major assets to trade up into the lottery, I’d want a much safer bet than him.

And I’m not as high on Keyontae George personally. He’s a bit of a chucker and he’s not a PG, although I do see the upside with him as a scorer.

[mo7888]

Jarace is the best player on that list and hed be perfect beside Wembanyama. I'd guess he and Black are in the same range as per cost of moving up. Jarace is probably the only one od move up for in the top 10 and thats really only if he falls a bit (or if Detroit really wants to move #5 and covets a current player.

I like all three PG's, but I like Bufkin and Black about the same and would be happy with either from 11 down... JHS would be worth the risk around 20 imo.

I don't care for George on this team..

[bluebellmaniac]

My cousin's neighbor's ex-gf has a friend who works in the Spurs FO and has a strong connection on who we are looking to trade up for. Seems there is a 21 yr old Serbian guard who is 5'10" with almost a 6' wingspan we are targeting.

Will get back when I have more info.

[Mr. Body]

Man, these direct and certain timvp posts have me second guessing what the real goals are, I've convinced myself of misdirection so much.

Anthony Black and Bufkin have been my guys, no surprise there. I do question Black's fit due to his scoring, and the cost is too much. But... I don't how teams run a pick-n-roll against him and Wembanyama, for example.

Bufkin is my guy at the moment. Can he develop more as a playmaker? I think so. Otherwise he's just good at everything.

Cason and JHS I'm less high on, but all four are great defensive prospects, which is what I want, and they have offensive skills. You don't see drafts shaping up like this very often.

[mo7888]

Man, these direct and certain timvp posts have me second guessing what the real goals are, I've convinced myself of misdirection so much.

Anthony Black and Bufkin have been my guys, no surprise there. I do question Black's fit due to his scoring, and the cost is too much. But... I don't how teams run a pick-n-roll against him and Wembanyama, for example.

Bufkin is my guy at the moment. Can he develop more as a playmaker? I think so. Otherwise he's just good at everything.

Cason and JHS I'm less high on, but all four are great defensive prospects, which is what I want, and they have offensive skills. You don't see drafts shaping up like this very often.

I still think it's misdirection (or at least I lean that way), I believe timvp is reporting what he hears, but I think there's subterfuge coming from team sources and other scouts are just saying what seems plausible from an outside POV.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I mean he is 18 years old. Remember when you were 18 years old...

Ahh, yes, I do. I wish I still had that vertical leap.

[Mr. Body]

I still think it's misdirection (or at least I lean that way), I believe timvp is reporting what he hears, but I think there's subterfuge coming from team sources and other scouts are just saying what seems plausible from an outside POV.

Well, that's because there are players you want that aren't mentioned.

Really, the 'misdirection' thing comes iirc soley from the Mark Williams mention last year which, to be honest, they might have considered a high possibility. Or, much more likely, the FO is tight-lipped as usual and timvp via sources is piecing best guesses together, more informed than the rest of us but not very different. Occam's Razor suggests the FO isn't using SpursTalk to throw anyone off the scent. They really do need a longterm PG prospect and probably one that is defensive.

[mo7888]

Well, that's because there are players you want that aren't mentioned.

Really, the 'misdirection' thing comes iirc soley from the Mark Williams mention last year which, to be honest, they might have considered a high possibility. Or, much more likely, the FO is tight-lipped as usual and timvp via sources is piecing best guesses together, more informed than the rest of us but not very different. Occam's Razor suggests the FO isn't using SpursTalk to throw anyone off the scent. They really do need a longterm PG prospect and probably one that is defensive.

Lol... Well, there is that one guy..

Part of the reason I think its misdirection is because I don't think its so 'cut and dried' that the Spurs would only make a move for those 7 guys. For instance, if a guy like Ausar or Amen falls to the 13-15 range do we really think that they wouldn't explore moving up? Or if Gradey falls to 18-20 would they really not explore moving up? Basically, I think it's more fluid and nuanced than... we'll only take one of these 7...

[bluebellmaniac]

Filip P is our guy. You heard the leak here first.

[Mugen]

Kobeeeee

[Atl Spur]

Jerace Walker at #5 would be nice.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Jerace Walker at #5 would be nice.

Agreed. I get why people wouldn't want him, but I really enjoy the way Walker plays basketball. I see him having Kawhi like upside.

[LeBowen]

Everyone keeps talking about the players Spurs want to trade up for, but what would they realistically be willing to give up?

As the article says, Keldon is the only tradeable asset that has value around the league. Devin and Jeremy shouldn't be on the table unless some ridiculous trade happens.
There's a ton of future picks, but Spurs were always reluctant to trade picks even when they were in mid to late 20s, let alone trading them now when we still don't have a clue how good Victor is and what's going to happen over the next few years.
Toronto pick looks solid and Hawks picks shouldn't be traded because they're a potential jackpot with Hawks being on the verge of collapse.

Honestly, I just want to see Victor suit up. If he's as good as advertised, possibilities are infinite and Spurs won't have trouble assembling a roster around him.

[exstatic]

Everyone keeps talking about the players Spurs want to trade up for, but what would they realistically be willing to give up?

As the article says, Keldon is the only tradeable asset that has value around the league. Devin and Jeremy shouldn't be on the table unless some ridiculous trade happens.
There's a ton of future picks, but Spurs were always reluctant to trade picks even when they were in mid to late 20s, let alone trading them now when we still don't have a clue how good Victor is and what's going to happen over the next few years.
Toronto pick looks solid and Hawks picks shouldn't be traded because they're a potential jackpot with Hawks being on the verge of collapse.

Honestly, I just want to see Victor suit up. If he's as good as advertised, possibilities are infinite and Spurs won't have trouble assembling a roster around him.

We're going to have to trade picks at some point. We can't select 32 players in the next 7 drafts.

[mo7888]

We're going to have to trade picks at some point. We can't select 32 players in the next 7 drafts.

I think there's also an argument to be made that they have more value in trades now than they will when they're piling up on us and everyone knows were under a time crunch to move some of them.

[exstatic]

I think there's also an argument to be made that they have more value in trades now than they will when they're piling up on us and everyone knows were under a time crunch to move some of them.

Right. That could be what happened last year when we had 3 first rounders. We could have 3 again next year.

[LeBowen]

We're going to have to trade picks at some point. We can't select 32 players in the next 7 drafts.

Obviously, but those picks could be way more valuable in a year or two than they are now.
I wouldn't trade Hawks picks under any cir stances, they're a dumpster fire and will surely implode.

I guess our own picks could be traded if PATFO thinks both Victor and the player we're trading for are a sure thing.
Noone is going to give us a lottery pick for futures with heavy protection.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the idea of trading multiple picks that don't have established value yet to move up for another pick and not an actual known quan y player.

I'd just play the season out, see how Victor and everyone else develops without any tanking DNPs and go from there.

Unless PATFO sees someone as a must have player. Still a risk, but that's what they're paid for while we guesstimate things on the internet.

[exstatic]

Obviously, but those picks could be way more valuable in a year or two than they are now.
I wouldn't trade Hawks picks under any cir stances, they're a dumpster fire and will surely implode.

I guess our own picks could be traded if PATFO thinks both Victor and the player we're trading for are a sure thing.
Noone is going to give us a lottery pick for futures with heavy protection.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like the idea of trading multiple picks that don't have established value yet to move up for another pick and not an actual known quan y player.

I'd just play the season out, see how Victor and everyone else develops without any tanking DNPs and go from there.

Unless PATFO sees someone as a must have player. Still a risk, but that's what they're paid for while we guesstimate things on the internet.

They do have an established maximum value, though. The TOR pick can't be higher than 7. The CHI pick has a maximum value of 9 in subsequent years, 11 in year 1. The CHA pick has a maximum value of 15.

Like Mo said, if you have a bunch of them in a draft, they could lose value. We stand a decent chance of having 3 FRPs next draft again, and you can lose leverage if you go into the draft with that many. Teams could just say "fine, draft all 3 picks if that's your price." That could very well be what happened last year when we had 3 FRPs.

[Atl Spur]

Agreed. I get why people wouldn't want him, but I really enjoy the way Walker plays basketball. I see him having Kawhi like upside.

Versatility / defense would be stupid for the next 7 plus years