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    Also since you're there, have you taken a road trip to Yosemite this year? The Mist Trail must be nuts right now with how much snowpack the Sierras got last winter. First time I hiked it in spring 2006 after another heavy snow year I must have had wood half the hike from passing so many hot women in wet white T-shirts from how much the Merced River was roaring over the falls.
    I head up to Tahoe every summer and stay in Squaw Valley. My wife went online a few weeks ago to check out when the rafting we always do down the Truckee river will be opening and their website said they aren't opening this year because Tahoe's water levels are too high and if released would cause river flow to be too dangerous. I'm ing bummed as that's one of my favorite ways to spend 6 hours day drinking up there.

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    Gotta wonder if the Abbott / Perry ty grid is going to hold up over the next week. Came pretty close to rolling blackouts last July when we had a stretch of extreme weather like this.
    No way over knowing as there is no informational oversight despite Abbott's own commissions telling him he needs to create that.

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    I head up to Tahoe every summer and stay in Squaw Valley. My wife went online a few weeks ago to check out when the rafting we always do down the Truckee river will be opening and their website said they aren't opening this year because Tahoe's water levels are too high and if released would cause river flow to be too dangerous. I'm ing bummed as that's one of my favorite ways to spend 6 hours day drinking up there.
    Damn. Seriously though if you have a chance, check out the waterfalls in Yosemite in the next couple of weeks if you have never been in a June with a large snowpack. Extremely impressive hike plus it's not too hard, especially when being cooled by the mist from under Vernal Fall. Under Nevada Fall you might not catch too much mist since the climb is farther away than the one up Vernal Fall, still nice though. Plus at the top you can scoff all the tourons saying they're on their way to Half Dome holding only one almost empty 20 oz water bottle asking you for water. Ugh made the mistake of pulling out my water pump at the top of Nevada Fall one time.

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    Damn. Seriously though if you have a chance, check out the waterfalls in Yosemite in the next couple of weeks if you have never been in a June with a large snowpack. Extremely impressive hike plus it's not too hard, especially when being cooled by the mist from under Vernal Fall. Under Nevada Fall you might not catch too much mist since the climb is farther away than the one up Vernal Fall, still nice though. Plus at the top you can scoff all the tourons saying they're on their way to Half Dome holding only one almost empty 20 oz water bottle asking you for water. Ugh made the mistake of pulling out my water pump at the top of Nevada Fall one time.
    You think me having a 2 year old on my back and my 5 year old walking could pull off the hike? Or could you make it with an offroad stroller? We sometimes shoot off the 395 to Yosemite for a few days on our way to Tahoe. I'm guessing the waterfalls would still be good in August.

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    I head up to Tahoe every summer and stay in Squaw Valley. My wife went online a few weeks ago to check out when the rafting we always do down the Truckee river will be opening and their website said they aren't opening this year because Tahoe's water levels are too high and if released would cause river flow to be too dangerous. I'm ing bummed as that's one of my favorite ways to spend 6 hours day drinking up there.
    One of my good buddies lives in Reno and his fiancee is in Truckee. He sent me pics all winter of the snow being above the rim of the hoop in her driveway, then above the roof itself, it was nuts.

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    One of my good buddies lives in Reno and his fiancee is in Truckee. He sent me pics all winter of the snow being above the rim of the hoop in her driveway, then above the roof itself, it was nuts.
    My cousin lives in Olympic Village and sent pictures from the cabin and showing how high the snow came up and I can't ever wrap my head around it. After a really heavy night they woke up and couldn't get their front door open so he went to the second floor and that window was blocked in by snow. Had to go to the third story window to get out Absolutely crazy how much snow they got. The pictures I saw from Mammoth this year at a condo we stay at were even crazier. I was up there this last winter and we called our trip early and headed home after seeing the incoming storm. Glad we did because my friends who stayed were stuck up there for over a week waiting for their road to get plowed.

    Speaking of Truckee have you been there lately? Drove in to downtown last year after not having been there for a few years and their downtown area was really popping. Nice now to be able get out of Squaw Valley and not get raped on prices and still have some cool restaurants to eat at without the y Tahoe crowd.

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    My cousin lives in Olympic Village and sent pictures from the cabin and showing how high the snow came up and I can't ever wrap my head around it. After a really heavy night they woke up and couldn't get their front door open so he went to the second floor and that window was blocked in by snow. Had to go to the third story window to get out Absolutely crazy how much snow they got. The pictures I saw from Mammoth this year at a condo we stay at were even crazier. I was up there this last winter and we called our trip early and headed home after seeing the incoming storm. Glad we did because my friends who stayed were stuck up there for over a week waiting for their road to get plowed.

    Speaking of Truckee have you been there lately? Drove in to downtown last year after not having been there for a few years and their downtown area was really popping. Nice now to be able get out of Squaw Valley and not get raped on prices and still have some cool restaurants to eat at without the y Tahoe crowd.
    I haven't been out there yet, but want to go soon. My daughter is starting at UNM in August, so maybe we will head up there one of the next couple summers.

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    You think me having a 2 year old on my back and my 5 year old walking could pull off the hike? Or could you make it with an offroad stroller? We sometimes shoot off the 395 to Yosemite for a few days on our way to Tahoe. I'm guessing the waterfalls would still be good in August.
    Nah I wouldn't advise doing it then. Stroller is an absolute no-go. The steps under Vernal Fall are really slippery when the fall is raging like it should be now. Plus the steps are kind of high for a five year old and it's a couple thousand feet of elevation gain to get to the top of the second fall (Nevada Fall) if I remember right. Probably something better to put off until the kids are like 9-10. Here's an idea of what the steps under Vernal Fall look like:



    The ones up to Nevada Fall on the Mist Trail are quite a bit steeper but they shouldn't be wet and slippery like the ones under Vernal will be.

    The John Muir Trail can also be taken to both waterfalls and you won't have to worry about slipping with a kid on your back throwing off your balance and with a five year old. I have never hiked that section of the JMT before but horses can use it so it's probably way smoother going and you don't have to worry about your five year old slipping.

    The JMT is in light blue here. Mist Trail in red and yellow.

    https://www.yosemitehikes.com/yosemi.../trail-map.htm

    Just make sure your kids know to respect the Merced River because people get swept over Vernal Fall to their deaths all the time and there's an area that looks calm but can have very strong undercurrents. Though then again right now I imagine no part of the Merced over Vernal Fall looks calm.
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    I don't believe in climate change?!?! lol your assumptions are so ing stupid it hurts.

    A large portion of my job is tracking climate change, average temps, and average rainfall here in California. Based on my findings I advise where we plant, what variety we plant, and when we harvest. I do the same in our growing regions in Mexico, Peru, and Chile. Thanks for the link though lol I needed the laugh. I have spreadsheets I've created with average temps, average rainfall, and soil conditions for every city within 40 miles of the California coast from San Diego to Morro Bay. I see firsthand on a daily basis how the climate is changing and what it is affecting, my job depends on believing in it and adapting to it.

    When I have free time I spend a lot of it running the deck for my best friend and captain's long range fishing boat. Water temp is one of the most important metrics we use when on the water fishing tuna. The changes in water temps over the years off the coast of San Diego and down into Mexico are definitely not normal and it's changed bait movement, how we rig gear, and what we fish for. We've been catching Wahoo off the coast of San Diego...that didn't happen regularly 10 years ago. The size and frequency of large bluefin we are catching now weren't seen 10 years ago. Ocean temps rising off of California/Mexico have actually been hugely beneficial to those of us that fish the ocean.

    I also spend a good amount of free time hunting and you guessed it...climate change has affected that as well. Deer movement isn't the same in the mountains I grew up hunting because of changes to the landscape because of warming temps. Certain bird species I used to hunt no longer fly into bodies of water they used to or forage in fields I used to hunt when I was younger because climate change has affected their food source.

    TLDR cause I know you hate reading anything over a single sentence...you're a ing idiot for saying I don't believe in climate change as my job and life outside of work are intimately connected to climate change.
    Great, what's causing the climate change in your opinion?

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    I'm located in the Central Valley, pretty much the last sizeable town (we're about 35k) before Yosemite Park, near the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains and on the opposite side, about 1.5 hours from the Bay, but we're always having some scorching summers here, almost like back home, just less humidity, but man, a few weeks ago, it was 96 with 44% humidity...I felt flashbacks to San Antonio.
    Blech 95 right now with dewpoint of 77 (so 58% relative humidity). Dewpoint of 77 is insanely humid here even for 3AM when it's clouded over much less 3PM and is giving us a heat index of 111 right now and we'll probably end up at 100 with a heat index of like 116 by the time 6PM rolls around.
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    Blech 95 right now with dewpoint of 77 (so 58% relative humidity). Dewpoint of 77 is insanely humid here even for 3AM when it's clouded over much less 3PM and is giving us a heat index of 111 right now and we'll probably end up at 100 with a heat index of like 116 by the time 6PM rolls around.
    The bum is a weather guy I see.

    I feel like the humidity thing is under sold.
    For instance, riding a bike on our Greenway Trails is a great way to beat the heat. I put on a wicking head rag hanging over my head and neck and and go fast enough to get a very nice experience with evaporative cooling while riding the portions of the trail that are more shaded. But when the temps get this high and the humidity is too high it gets really rough. You can feel the difference riding through sunny vegetative areas vs. underneath the road ways and such down low. There is a notable "wave" of hot humid air out in the open with all the vegetation giving of water vapor. Its very noticeable and suffocating if you stay in it for a good length of time. Going underneath IH 10 and 1604 and a lot of the elevated roadways you get a noticeable "blob" of cooler humid air. Its quite strange but very evident.

    And after riding yesterday I realize I dont really need to resoak my head rag and upper body as they just dont evaporate much water, even in a stiffer wind. If there is zero wind like yesterday, its really sort of self defeating exercise. And if the air quality is bad its really depressing as I thought I had found a good way to get a good workout other than running which is just miserable. And I hate going inside on a treadmill, hate it.... So Swimming gets the nod on days like these but swimming really does not do the leg work that biking, and especially running require. Even just working with a paddle board and kicking. It just does not use the large muscles of the legs.

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    The bum is a weather guy I see.

    I feel like the humidity thing is under sold.
    For instance, riding a bike on our Greenway Trails is a great way to beat the heat. I put on a wicking head rag hanging over my head and neck and and go fast enough to get a very nice experience with evaporative cooling while riding the portions of the trail that are more shaded. But when the temps get this high and the humidity is too high it gets really rough. You can feel the difference riding through sunny vegetative areas vs. underneath the road ways and such down low. There is a notable "wave" of hot humid air out in the open with all the vegetation giving of water vapor. Its very noticeable and suffocating if you stay in it for a good length of time. Going underneath IH 10 and 1604 and a lot of the elevated roadways you get a noticeable "blob" of cooler humid air. Its quite strange but very evident.

    And after riding yesterday I realize I dont really need to resoak my head rag and upper body as they just dont evaporate much water, even in a stiffer wind. If there is zero wind like yesterday, its really sort of self defeating exercise. And if the air quality is bad its really depressing as I thought I had found a good way to get a good workout other than running which is just miserable. And I hate going inside on a treadmill, hate it.... So Swimming gets the nod on days like these but swimming really does not do the leg work that biking, and especially running require. Even just working with a paddle board and kicking. It just does not use the large muscles of the legs.
    Do more laps, swim team doing 50-100 laps was brutal. If you know how to backstroke, that works your legs a lot too.
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    Do more laps, swim team doing 50-100 laps was brutal. If you know how to backstroke, that works your legs a lot too.
    Im terrible at backstroke. Cannot do butterfly, no fn way. Breaststroke you can take very easy so I prefer freestyle.
    I do use the swim fins on my back and kick the legs with arms out in front and pointed forward hands together. I guess Ill do more of that? The swim fins get you going really fast but they take it out of your legs quickly. I dont do all that well without fins and not using the arms on the back. I go at lunch so I often have to share lanes so I usually dont like to do anything on my back so as to stay straight path so I dont crash into anyone. I have already hit fingers on freestyle with people and it was not pleasant. Nor is hitting the hard plastic lane lines. But its great coming back to work after swimming, eating, and finishing the day out and then bike in the evenings.

    I grew up swimming in rivers, streams and lakes. Never formal swimming, just survival swimming. When I started swimming laps it was difficult. Even if I have good endurance from running, swimming is just more technical if you really want to be efficient and not get shoulder problems I have learned. We actually get occasional access to the 50 meter lanes and I absolutely love that. I feel like I can really get in a groove and not be turning after 25 yards. More time actually swimming. And Im not good at the flip turn so... yeah. I love it, but I did not grow up with swimming laps.

    I was thinking of using that floaty between the legs but I do a pretty good job of kicking just enough so I keep my body flat and not dragging so I dont know how much that would help the mechanics of my freestyle. I youtube effortless swimming and they have some good tips but Im basically self taught. And Effortless Swimming puts a bit more emphasis on open water Triathlon swimming where you have to take a look up every once in a while to get your bearings.

    I do 34 back and forth in the 25 yard lanes so I guess thats 68 labs. Around a mile. But I dont push hard. So I guess I do increments of 50, 100,150... to 400 yards. I think on average it takes about 23-24 seconds per "lap" or just a bit over a yard a second. I think Im getting better but I probably need an instructor. Some people at the pool who are really good swimmers have been helpful because they see I am getting better, but for something technical like swimming I need real help.

    I think I probably made this too long but I really like swimming to take away running pounding. So I do like suggestions from people who have actually done this on a higher level.

    Edit: I eat a ton of food after swimming. It makes me much hungrier than running. Cant quite figure out why. Running burns more calories. Maybe the water being "cold" and restoration of body heat uses calories?

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    I feel like the humidity thing is under sold.
    Ugh our dew point is back to 80. Even Thailand isn't this ing humid right now.

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    Ugh our dew point is back to 80. Even Thailand isn't this ing humid right now.
    It's like going to spend a summer in ing Chennai or something except without actual rain to cool things down for a little while.

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    Im terrible at backstroke. Cannot do butterfly, no fn way. Breaststroke you can take very easy so I prefer freestyle.
    I do use the swim fins on my back and kick the legs with arms out in front and pointed forward hands together. I guess Ill do more of that? The swim fins get you going really fast but they take it out of your legs quickly. I dont do all that well without fins and not using the arms on the back. I go at lunch so I often have to share lanes so I usually dont like to do anything on my back so as to stay straight path so I dont crash into anyone. I have already hit fingers on freestyle with people and it was not pleasant. Nor is hitting the hard plastic lane lines. But its great coming back to work after swimming, eating, and finishing the day out and then bike in the evenings.

    I grew up swimming in rivers, streams and lakes. Never formal swimming, just survival swimming. When I started swimming laps it was difficult. Even if I have good endurance from running, swimming is just more technical if you really want to be efficient and not get shoulder problems I have learned. We actually get occasional access to the 50 meter lanes and I absolutely love that. I feel like I can really get in a groove and not be turning after 25 yards. More time actually swimming. And Im not good at the flip turn so... yeah. I love it, but I did not grow up with swimming laps.

    I was thinking of using that floaty between the legs but I do a pretty good job of kicking just enough so I keep my body flat and not dragging so I dont know how much that would help the mechanics of my freestyle. I youtube effortless swimming and they have some good tips but Im basically self taught. And Effortless Swimming puts a bit more emphasis on open water Triathlon swimming where you have to take a look up every once in a while to get your bearings.

    I do 34 back and forth in the 25 yard lanes so I guess thats 68 labs. Around a mile. But I dont push hard. So I guess I do increments of 50, 100,150... to 400 yards. I think on average it takes about 23-24 seconds per "lap" or just a bit over a yard a second. I think Im getting better but I probably need an instructor. Some people at the pool who are really good swimmers have been helpful because they see I am getting better, but for something technical like swimming I need real help.

    I think I probably made this too long but I really like swimming to take away running pounding. So I do like suggestions from people who have actually done this on a higher level.

    Edit: I eat a ton of food after swimming. It makes me much hungrier than running. Cant quite figure out why. Running burns more calories. Maybe the water being "cold" and restoration of body heat uses calories?
    Swimming works your whole body, not just your legs. Over time running burns more, usually just because people don't swim for as long as they run.

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    Just recorded our highest heat index in the history of the city today, at 115, per KSAT.

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    Just recorded our highest heat index in the history of the city today, at 115, per KSAT.
    Been working in it all day, can confirm I'm dying.

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    Just recorded our highest heat index in the history of the city today, at 115, per KSAT.
    Even the pool isn't refreshing

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    Like Blake said, the pool in the complex doesn't really help like it would with lower humidity but high heat.

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    I swam and biked today.
    The biking came in the evening.

    The biking was very difficult and I wont be doing it again with these temps and humidity.
    I think it did more harm than good. I know the current ideas say you can acclimate. If you are an African Pygmy living in the Congo Jungle.

    I think windspeed needs to be considered along with temp and humidity. When its perfectly still, its perfectly miserable.
    Everytime I stopped to drink it was awful.
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    Swimming works your whole body, not just your legs. Over time running burns more, usually just because people don't swim for as long as they run.
    Absolutely.
    Its wonderful at the NISD complex. Pool is still cool. I think they have to keep it cool enough for compe ions so it will be interesting to see how the outdoor v. the indoor Olympic size pools vary in temps.

    Found this as well.
    Running does burn more calories per unit time. 20 minutes and longer.

    So I dont get why I am so hungry after swimming and not running.
    Maybe its just my body-brain interaction. Which is already strange enough...

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    Damn. Been at the house in Colorado for a week. Low in the 30s at night, high in the 60-low 70s. Spending the night in Amarillo on the way back to . Just found out today my AC at home is out. Gonna be a big suck.

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    Speaking of Amarillo their weather has been crazy. Huge rainfall and in flat Amarillo no place for the water to go. Huge swaths of neighborhoods. Apartments etc. flooded.

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    Damn. Been at the house in Colorado for a week. Low in the 30s at night, high in the 60-low 70s. Spending the night in Amarillo on the way back to . Just found out today my AC at home is out. Gonna be a big suck.
    Oregon was lovely, but very young family members can be limiting. Plus side, you can have more fun together at or near the same place -- or it, someplace totally unrelated -- when they get a little older and stronger.

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