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    Do you know what the guarantee date is for his deal? He's pretty much a nutter, so I really don't want him playing this year with the Spurs.
    1/10/24

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    Jonathan Isaac would be amazing at one of Pop's huge team dinners, insisting on how woke everyone is.

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    Jonathan Isaac would be amazing at one of Pop's huge team dinners, insisting on how woke everyone is.
    If the guy could even get to the table without injuring himself.

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    Givony said today on both NBA Today and The Lowe Post that Bufkin is now firmly in the 8-13 range and teams are having trouble getting him in for workouts, leading to speculation of a promise.

    He also mentioned a few days ago in his latest mock draft of the Mavericks and Pistons kicking around Hardaway Jr. and 10 for Bogdanovic and 31.

    Spurs could try to get involved by offering 33, the Craptors '24 1st and the Hornets (Bulls?) 1st for 10.

    2019 Draft
    Ja Morant (2)
    Darius Garland (5)
    Coby White (7)
    Ty Jerome (24)
    Kevin Porter Jr. (30)
    Carsen Edwards (33)

    2020 Draft
    LaMello Ball (3)
    Killian Hayes (7)
    Tyrese Haliburton (12)
    Kira Lewis (13)
    Cole Anthony (15)
    Immanuel Quickley (25)
    Malachi Flynn (29)
    Tre Jones (41)

    2021 Draft
    Cade Cunningham (1)
    Jalen Suggs (5)
    Josh Giddey (6)
    Davion Mitc (9)
    James Bouknight (11)
    Josh Primo (12)
    Chris Duarte (13)
    Tre Mann (18)
    Bones Hyland (26)
    Cam Thomas (27)

    2022 Draft
    Jaden Ivey (5)
    Dyson Daniels (8)
    Blake Wesley (25)
    TyTy Washington (29)
    Andrew Nembhard (31)
    Kennedy Chandler (38)

    Those are the point guard prospects in the last several drafts. I left out marginally non-PG types who are more SGs, but even this list is full of shoot-first SG prospects who are heliocentric.
    Either I'm not understanding you or you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

    White, Jerome, Porter Jr., Edwards, Quickley, Suggs, Bouknight, Primo, Mann, Hyland, Thomas, Ivey, Daniels and Wesley are all combo guards who mostly lean off ball/secondary creators.

    Cunningham and Giddey are point forwards and Duarte is a wing.

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    Givony said today on both NBA Today and The Lowe Post that Bufkin is now firmly in the 8-13 range and teams are having trouble getting him in for workouts, leading to speculation of a promise.

    He also mentioned a few days ago in his latest mock draft of the Mavericks and Pistons kicking around Hardaway Jr. and 10 for Bogdanovic and 31.

    Spurs could try to get involved by offering 33, the Craptors '24 1st and the Hornets (Bulls?) 1st for 10.



    Either I'm not understanding you or you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

    White, Jerome, Porter Jr., Edwards, Quickley, Suggs, Bouknight, Primo, Mann, Hyland, Thomas, Ivey, Daniels and Wesley are all combo guards who mostly lean off ball/secondary creators.

    Cunningham and Giddey are point forwards and Duarte is a wing.
    These are the players one could remotely call a point guard in these drafts.

    My point is how rare it is to find actual facilitating points especially ones who are good defensively. Which ones of those listed match those criteria? Expecting future drafts to deliver good prospects may not work out very well.

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    I've heard Mavericks targeting Capela and a Dal/Atl swap.

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    I've heard Mavericks targeting Capela and a Dal/Atl swap.
    if im spurs i try to beat that offer with mcbuckets, collins, #33 and future 1st or 2nd for hardaway, bertans and #10

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    if im spurs i try to beat that offer with mcbuckets, collins, #33 and future 1st or 2nd for hardaway, bertans and #10
    I don't love this... it might help us find a prospect to take care of PG, but it creates a massive hole at C (I'm firmly of the belief Wemby will be a PF in the NBA, or at the least need another bigger C next to him. I don't think Sochan at the 4 and Wemby at the 5 works).

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    I've heard Mavericks targeting Capela and a Dal/Atl swap.
    Capela isn’t a bad fit on Dallas. They e got to do something.

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    I don't love this... it might help us find a prospect to take care of PG, but it creates a massive hole at C (I'm firmly of the belief Wemby will be a PF in the NBA, or at the least need another bigger C next to him. I don't think Sochan at the 4 and Wemby at the 5 works).
    C spot is least position to worry about in the league could easily find a gem late in draft or thru free agency. btw i would prefer a more veteran experienced center next to wemby. collins was always a project and now that they showcased him this could be time to cash in.

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    Wow. I like it all except for the CPO/FVF signing, but Ecstatic pointed out, that’s other GM’s take.

    1. Signing Tre back is automatic. He is best at backup PG. He has tenacity and the signing would bring continuity in developing our drafted players;

    2. I prefer Anthony Black but Kobe Bufkin could be more of a reality. I agree I don’t see the Spurs keeping both SRP and possibly throwing in a vet to move up would be interesting. But which players to trade. McBuckets or Graham seem obvious, but how much do they want Anthony Black? Trade Keldon?? Trading up for Anthony Black would show great commitment to winning in a long term, pairing a potential All-Star 2way player with Wemby. Timmy/TP. Wemby/Black would have most ST posters have wet dreams. Damn!;

    3. I see Pop signing in 3 years with option to opt out. Pop would want to make sure of Wemby’s development as Spurs new cornerstone franchise;

    4. I can see the Spurs will be much compe ive next season, but not pushing it in the risk of injury. Wemby has mentioned he likes to win championships as soon as possible, so the Spurs will not disappoint their young players by throwing games. But I think Wemby will also understand the importance of patience and thrusting the Spurs way, as Tony and Boris have most likely already advised the young French phenom;

    5. Again I don’t see the CPO/FVF signing. I see CPO signing with Lakers and FVP joining the Suns both trying to chase rings.

    I like Keldon, but damn if Spurs would pull the trigger and send another future FRP for Anthony Black.

    Black, Vassell, Wemby, Sochan and Collins. Damn! Collins is a perfect fit because of his ability to knockdown outside shots, and he is a very willing passer, plus his motor and tenacity is infectious. Bassey would need to be serious about getting better as he would need to defend bigger Centers. Malaki, Blake, Barlow, Champagnie, they all need to make a leap and get excited with Spurs future if they want to stick around.

    I think they will be compe ive and fun to watch next season. I can’t wait. Go Spurs Go!

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    Wow. I like it all except for the CPO/FVF signing, but Ecstatic pointed out, that’s other GM’s take.

    1. Signing Tre back is automatic. He is best at backup PG. He has tenacity and the signing would bring continuity in developing our drafted players;

    2. I prefer Anthony Black but Kobe Bufkin could be more of a reality. I agree I don’t see the Spurs keeping both SRP and possibly throwing in a vet to move up would be interesting. But which players to trade. McBuckets or Graham seem obvious, but how much do they want Anthony Black? Trade Keldon?? Trading up for Anthony Black would show great commitment to winning in a long term, pairing a potential All-Star 2way player with Wemby. Timmy/TP. Wemby/Black would have most ST posters have wet dreams. Damn!;

    3. I see Pop signing in 3 years with option to opt out. Pop would want to make sure of Wemby’s development as Spurs new cornerstone franchise;

    4. I can see the Spurs will be much compe ive next season, but not pushing it in the risk of injury. Wemby has mentioned he likes to win championships as soon as possible, so the Spurs will not disappoint their young players by throwing games. But I think Wemby will also understand the importance of patience and thrusting the Spurs way, as Tony and Boris have most likely already advised the young French phenom;

    5. Again I don’t see the CPO/FVF signing. I see CPO signing with Lakers and FVP joining the Suns both trying to chase rings.

    I like Keldon, but damn if Spurs would pull the trigger and send another future FRP for Anthony Black.

    Black, Vassell, Wemby, Sochan and Collins. Damn! Collins is a perfect fit because of his ability to knockdown outside shots, and he is a very willing passer, plus his motor and tenacity is infectious. Bassey would need to be serious about getting better as he would need to defend bigger Centers. Malaki, Blake, Barlow, Champagnie, they all need to make a leap and get excited with Spurs future if they want to stick around.

    I think they will be compe ive and fun to watch next season. I can’t wait. Go Spurs Go!
    You’re a genius. I think they announced that a day or two ago.

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    Another name I'll throw out there, Tyler Herro... if the Heat go after Beal then he's probably part of the package. Would we have an interest in him as a PG if we end up as a part of a 3 team deal?

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    Another name I'll throw out there, Tyler Herro... if the Heat go after Beal then he's probably part of the package. Would we have an interest in him as a PG if we end up as a part of a 3 team deal?
    I'm just a casual, this would be a coup, IMO. I'd rather take Lowry and give up 3 FRPs to get Herro rather than some unknown prospect.

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    I'm just a casual, this would be a coup, IMO. I'd rather take Lowry and give up 3 FRPs to get Herro rather than some unknown prospect.
    I think it comes down to what Washington would prefer. Miami probably has to move Herro and Lowry to get Beal and have room to sign Vincent and Struss. If Lowry came to us they'd have to give us #18 and send Herro to Washington, so conversely Washington might prefer the Lowry/18 package since they'd be starting their rebuild. We might have to include a future 1st to convince them, but i think its doable if we wanted to go that route.

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    I'd assume Miami would try to move Lowry and Duncan Robinson first... it's a weird deal because both sides are salary dumping and have to give up to get... it would be amazing if we could somehow scoop Herro. Like I said, I'd rather give up 3 FRPs for him than a prospect in this draft. If we can get him for cheaper, mega win. He helps us get to the floor as well.

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    You’re a genius. I think they announced that a day or two ago.
    Haha I’m traveling. I didn’t even get to watch any Finals game, much less check on what’s going on around the league, just catching up in ST

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    Trading pick #44 for cash only won't be a big deal, but it would be lame as . Spurs are already the team with the lowest payroll. Ownership doesn't need a couple of $M.

    They could use one of the three two-way spot on pick #44 or draft and stash someone. Even if this player has, let's say, a 5% odd to turn into an useful player, it would still be a way better move. What is sure is "cash" has a 0% odd to turn into an useful player.
    Especially with all the cash gonna come to them with Wemby festival

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    He may practice with the team but San Antonio wants him to rest after Metropolitans 92’s deep run in the postseason. Additionally, Wembanyama wants to play for the French national team this summer — so that makes it even more imperative for him to rest as much as possible during the month of July.
    well, i'm surprised that everyone here seems so sure the Spurs will be OK that he plays in the World Cup this summer. I would understand them preferring him not to go.

    He's new with the team, he'll have a busy summer just finding a new home and settling in San Antonio. And the team has to see with him the way they will work together. I'm sure the team would like him to get used to his new routine (training, conditioning etc etc...) with the Spurs.

    so, as much as i'm waiting for seeing him with the French national team in a big tournament, and as much as i know the Spurs will let him play for his national team next year for the OG and many times after that, i'd understand if they try to convince him to rest and prepare himself this summer.

    and by the way, neither his coach, who is also the french national team coach, nor him said he will play in the World Cup for sure in their last press conference.
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    The fact we haven’t heard anything about Cason Wallace makes me think he might be the guy the Spurs are targeting to move up for tbh . Or even Jalen Hood-Schifino. Guys we haven’t heard connected to us at all so far.

    Either could be good gets imo. Wallace seems like the perfect type of Spurs player. High-character and not real flashy. Just a strong, hard-nosed defender with a good feel for the game and who plays the right way. One of the best perimeter defenders in the Draft and has that Kentucky pedigree. Could easily see the Spurs liking him tbh.

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    The fact we haven’t heard anything about Cason Wallace makes me think he might be the guy the Spurs are targeting to move up for tbh . Or even Jalen Hood-Schifino. Guys we haven’t heard connected to us at all so far.
    Get ready for a punch.

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    Get ready for a punch.
    Imagine the joke possibilities.

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    Imagine the joke possibilities.
    Stop, stop, I can only get so erect.

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    well, i'm surprised that everyone here seems so sure the Spurs will be OK that he plays in the World Cup this summer. I would understand them preferring him not to go.

    He's new with the team, he'll have a busy summer just finding a new home and settling in San Antonio. And the team has to see with him the way they will work together. I'm sure the team would like him to get used to his new routine (training, conditioning etc etc...) with the Spurs.

    so, as much as i'm waiting for seeing him with the French national team in a big tournament, and as much as i know the Spurs will let him play for his national team next year for the OG and many times after that, i'd understand if they try to convince him to rest and prepare himself this summer.

    and by the way, neither his coach, who is also the french national team coach, nor him said he will play in the World Cup for sure in their last press conference.
    I remember from back in the Manu Tony days of international ball, that they only way they can stop him is if he's injured. The league wants the international exposure, and I believe it's in the CBA.

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    The fact we haven’t heard anything about Cason Wallace makes me think he might be the guy the Spurs are targeting to move up for tbh . Or even Jalen Hood-Schifino. Guys we haven’t heard connected to us at all so far.

    Either could be good gets imo. Wallace seems like the perfect type of Spurs player. High-character and not real flashy. Just a strong, hard-nosed defender with a good feel for the game and who plays the right way. One of the best perimeter defenders in the Draft and has that Kentucky pedigree. Could easily see the Spurs liking him tbh.

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