The Only Seven Prospects the Spurs Would Select if San Antonio Trades for Another First Rounder

[DrSteffo]

It makes a lot of sense to try and move up in this draft. The only other player I would consider is Taylor Hendricks. The reason would be to add a big who can really shoot and also be a good defender. I like Sochan a lot and also Jarace Walker who is in the same range as Hendricks, but we need at least four bigs so no problem. Wemby, Sochan, Collins and either Hendricks or Walker would be a formidable force years to come. One of them will probably be injured or need a rest so depth is needed. I also wouldn't mind drafting a PG and either Black, Wallace or Bufkin would be great.

[Mr. Body]

Washington is going to burn it to the ground and start over. We're talking process era Sixers bottom out. And it's way past time for it. The only thing they (should) care about is ac ulating as many picks as they can. There is next to zero chance of them giving up 8 in this draft unless it's to get two picks just slightly further back in this draft.

I'm not as high on Black as everybody else around here. I like his iq and defense, but there's something about the pace he plays with that I'm not in love with. He seems easy to speed up and becomes very mistake prone. Maybe that part of his game matures but for what it would cost to move up into that range, it's not worth the risk especially with his jumper being as questionable as it is. For a much lower entry fee, I'd rather them move up for Cason Wallace. Or just hold tight or move up slightly to take one of the high upside, switchable wings like Rayan Rupert, Sidy Cissoko, Julian Phillips or Olivier Maxence Prosper.

Black is definitely mistake prone. He can tighten and improve the handle, he doesn't place his passes quite right sometimes.

But his pace really is his own pace. He's one of those guards who does things on his own timing. I really don't see defenses speeding him up. He's like Paul in that way. And he uses things like bumps and hostage dribbles to get defenders behind him really well for his age. Because his base is so strong he can keep a player locked behind him while he lets his roll guy move.

[rjv]

i'm okay with getting black but i just don't what it would be that the spurs would have to surrender in order to move up but it's not going to be keldon.

[Kevin]

Not sure why people are so attached to Keldon. He has a knack for scoring but he's a bad defender, a weak rebounder for his position and just shot 32% from three last season. The guy has a ton of holes in his game. Now is the time to swing for upside.

[exstatic]

Not sure why people are so attached to Keldon. He has a knack for scoring but he's a bad defender, a weak rebounder for his position and just shot 32% from three last season. The guy has a ton of holes in his game. Now is the time to swing for upside.

He had a bad shooting year when we were trying to lose games. The year before, he shot 40% and his career mark is 36.3%, enough to make his pump fake credible and allow him to drive. He's an extremely strong finisher.

[DPG21920]

From Haynes

Pacers Make No. 7 Pick Available

The Indiana Pacers have made the No. 7 pick available for a trade, sources tell B/R. The Pacers are said to be in the market for a starting-caliber wing.

The Boston Celtics are fielding calls on the mul ude of quality guards on their roster, sources tell B/R. With Marcus Smart, Derrick White, Malcolm Brogdon and Payton Pritchard all deserving of playing time, Boston is looking to create some position balance, sources say.

If black or someone falls there would Keldon get it done? Would it be worth it?

[Mr. Body]

From Haynes



If black or someone falls there would Keldon get it done? Would it be worth it?

A lot of teams like they're not liking these players.

Keldon is a starting caliber wing.

[BatManu20]

[scott]

Thats kinda my thought. I think they'd much rather keep #8 and move Herro elsewhere. Thats why I posed the question in another thread about getting involved to take Herro (24 years old) as our PG and let Washington take Lowry for cap space next year.

And, the question must be asked - if Washington is hitting reset and rebuilding, why would they want to trade #8? The best case scenario for their rebuild (and for us) would be that we send a pick to WAS to help their rebuild (and maybe we even send some SRPs to MIA) and get Herro. I think we are too focused on getting compensated to facilitate a trade rather than being a participant who is buying in the deal.

[Mr. Body]

Mixed initial reaction on Pacers board. One guy suggests giving the lot of their picks in this draft, lol.

[Mr. Body]

And, the question must be asked - if Washington is hitting reset and rebuilding, why would they want to trade #8? The best case scenario for their rebuild (and for us) would be that we send a pick to WAS to help their rebuild (and maybe we even send some SRPs to MIA) and get Herro. I think we are too focused on getting compensated to facilitate a trade rather than being a participant who is buying in the deal.

The 8 doesn't exactly project as a star, although the players could be very good and complementary. It might be more attractive to get multiple picks instead, but it's doubtful.

No interest in Herro. His salary is disgusting and he's unplayable as anything more than a microwave scorer. His defense is atrocious. We'd get killed.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Indiana could be a nice landing spot for Keldon. I think he would thrive there with a top-notch facilitator in Haliburton who is also a major scoring threat and one of the best spacing bigs in the league in Myles Turner he would go back to his optimal role as a non-primary scorer and with Indiana's spacing would open up driving lanes for him. They are a team that seems to be up and coming as well. Keldon likely pushes them into the playoffs. Although I don't know if the Spurs would want more than just 7 for him or if the Pacers think he is not enough for 7. I think I'd throw in 33 and look for a future FRP from Indiana.

[RC_Drunkford]

the problem for the Wizards that Beal doesn't only have a say on where he gets traded to, but also what he gets traded for

[spurraider21]

the problem for the Wizards that Beal doesn't only have a say on where he gets traded to, but also what he gets traded for

yep, thats how kobe nixed the trade to the bulls. his red line was he didnt want Deng leaving chicago as part of the deal

[DPG21920]

Imagine being held hostage by DeRozan lite and paying him 200M. Spurs never did that thank goodness.

[CGD]

Imagine being held hostage by DeRozan lite and paying him 200M. Spurs never did that thank goodness.

Yikes at the thought of a DeRozan “lite”

[Dejounte]

Highly doubt KJ gets involved in a trade this summer, but maybe next. Imagine how cruel it is to invite him to put his autograph on the wood flooring of the new training facility only to be shipped out next week.

[rascal]

Highly doubt KJ gets involved in a trade this summer, but maybe next. Imagine how cruel it is to invite him to put his autograph on the wood flooring of the new training facility only to be shipped out next week.

Keldon is the most likely to be traded in a package with draft picks.

He is one of the few who have any trade value and the Spurs would be all right trading.
His skills can easily be replaced with a future draft pick if the spurs can move into the first round and get a PG they like.

[Dejounte]

Keldon is the most likely to be traded in a package with draft picks.

He is one of the few who have any trade value and the Spurs would be all right trading.
His skills can easily be replaced with a future draft pick if the spurs can move into the first round and get a PG they like.

I didn’t say he was irreplaceable. Read my post more carefully. Other players have value: Branham, Vassell. The Spurs have to give up something of more value if we’re being realistic about these trade proposals.

[Degoat]

If the spurs move up in the draft it’s for a pick package Imo they’re not trading Keldon yet.

[JuneJive]

If the spurs move up in the draft it’s for a pick package Imo they’re not trading Keldon yet.

Exactly.

[BackHome]

Yeah but your going to give up a lot of picks to crack the first round top 10 - Your talking multiple first rounders to get a team to give up what they have

[Ariel]

Highly doubt KJ gets involved in a trade this summer, but maybe next. Imagine how cruel it is to invite him to put his autograph on the wood flooring of the new training facility only to be shipped out next week.

I tend to agree, but for a different reason. The Spurs just signed him to a long term deal at a team friendly discount. Now if the Spurs start trading friendly deals the second they come into effect, the next guy who's considering a discount just to remain on the team may want to think twice about it, since he may very well have no saying in where he fulfills that ccontract. That may not be the best idea, with Vassell in that exact same situation now and Sochan and Branham likely in 2 years. Besides, Keldon is coming off a relatively inefficient season that lowered his trade value. The more reasonable scenario would be keeping him on the team, growing along the rest of the team a year or two, and if an opportunity comes along with a convenient valuation then yes, move him. But the timing right now may not be the best for the aforementioned reasons.

[Mr. Body]

I tend to agree, but for a different reason. The Spurs just signed him to a long term deal at a team friendly discount. Now if the Spurs start trading friendly deals the second they come into effect, the next guy who's considering a discount just to remain on the team may want to think twice about it, since he may very well have no saying in where he fulfills that ccontract. That may not be the best idea, with Vassell in that exact same situation now and Sochan and Branham likely in 2 years. Besides, Keldon is coming off a relatively inefficient season that lowered his trade value. The more reasonable scenario would be keeping him on the team, growing along the rest of the team a year or two, and if an opportunity comes along with a convenient valuation then yes, move him. But the timing right now may not be the best for the aforementioned reasons.

Didn't they trade White and Murray just after extending them?

[scott]

Didn't they trade White and Murray just after extending them?

IIRC, both were a couple of years into their extensions (and probably 3 years removed from actually signing them). And somewhat to Ariel’s point, DW got traded to a good situation and DJM seems to have almost picked his spot. Both player-friendly moves.