Fischer: "There's A Growing Belief Among League Personnel That San Antonio Will Target Starting C's

[RC_Drunkford]

I actually find this notion off base. Zollins was the Spurs best player last year after the trade. He seems like the perfect fit next to Wemby. I expect SA to extend Zollins. Maybe even front load into this year. So if they agree to 40 million for 3 years the Spurs decline his team option and give him 48 million for 4 years starting at 13.5 and declining to 10.5. Then look for a back up in case of injury, but you don’t need a banger on the floor for 48 minutes or even 82 games. More like 25 games. And it’s not like Wemby isn’t going to play some center. Plus Sochan is capable of banging if necessary. This notion that the Spurs priority will be finding a center just seems ludicrous to me.

That’s actually a good idea since the Spurs need to reach the salary floor they could overpay him now and have him on the roster for cheap later when they back in the playoffs

[onechance87]

Surprised Naz Reid hasn't got much love tbh. He's only going to be 24 when the season started and even outplayed Gobert at times this season imo.

Would be nice to have a nice young center with wemby

[exstatic]

Would be nice to have a nice young center with wemby

Yes, because none of Zach, Mamu, or Charles checks those boxes.

[spurrunner]

There is no way they'd give him a second look.

I bet he'd give the spurs another look

[TD 21]

Surprised Naz Reid hasn't got much love tbh. He's only going to be 24 when the season started and even outplayed Gobert at times this season imo.

I mentioned him pre Wembanyama. At this point, I don't see him as a good fit since he'd be an expensive fourth big and I'd rather provide opportunity for Bassey or even Mamukelashvili, who's skillsets make sense given the top three bigs.

I actually find this notion off base. Zollins was the Spurs best player last year after the trade. He seems like the perfect fit next to Wemby. I expect SA to extend Zollins. Maybe even front load into this year. So if they agree to 40 million for 3 years the Spurs decline his team option and give him 48 million for 4 years starting at 13.5 and declining to 10.5. Then look for a back up in case of injury, but you don’t need a banger on the floor for 48 minutes or even 82 games. More like 25 games. And it’s not like Wemby isn’t going to play some center. Plus Sochan is capable of banging if necessary. This notion that the Spurs priority will be finding a center just seems ludicrous to me.

That's how I see it too. I'm fine with some veteran, low cost fringe rotational C or combo big on a short term contract for depth, but no way I'd splurge on some rotational rim running C to clog things up and limit the younger bigs minutes.

[tbdog]

I still think Spurs will target Grant Williams.

[exstatic]

I still think Spurs will target Grant Williams.

There’s an obsession on ST to target players who haven’t broken out yet, but who have exhausted their cheap rookie contracts. Eight point Keldon? Why? We have the real thing already.

[rankingtear]

So the choice is extending Wemby career vs developing our bargain bin center rotation. Even our farce FO should get this right.

[CGD]

There’s an obsession on ST to target players who haven’t broken out yet, but who have exhausted their cheap rookie contracts. Eight point Keldon? Why? We have the real thing already.

Second draft baby!

I mean it’s not unreasonable. The track record may not be excellent, but the profile is there: young player, draft “experts” saw SOME upside potential just 3-4 years ago, and some are legit in ty fit situations.

Bottom line: It’s not THAT far off of a gamble than want folks are proposing here in throwing all sorts of assets to move up to 13-18th pick in the draft…

[The Truth #6]

Jacquez, then Trayce Jackson Davis, then Jordan Walsh for me. Walsh is a poor man’s Sochan, but actually more similar to Rodman specifically with the manic energy. Could Walsh be like Detroit Rodman for us? I would roll the dice. I’m against Maxwell Lewis lazy types.

[TD 21]

So the choice is extending Wemby career vs developing our bargain bin center rotation. Even our farce FO should get this right.

I don't get the sarcasm/snobbery due to draft pedigree. Collins is a fringe starter with a skillset that should complement Wembanyama and Bassey is a fringe rotation player (probably just rotational, but I'll err due to small sample size).

The Heat just made their 2nd (and were a shot away from making it in '22) Finals in 4 years, with a bunch of undrafted players playing relatively prominent roles, but somehow the re-building Spurs need a 90s C rotation to either limit Sochan's role or shoehorn him into a position(s) that'll make the offense untenable.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs won championships with Centers like Rasho Nesterovic and Francisco Elson.

[rascal]

Jacquez, then Trayce Jackson Davis, then Jordan Walsh for me. Walsh is a poor man’s Sochan, but actually more similar to Rodman specifically with the manic energy. Could Walsh be like Detroit Rodman for us? I would roll the dice. I’m against Maxwell Lewis lazy types.

Walsh is very poor offensively.

I'd rather have Andre Jackson if you want a wing defender who is a better finisher at the rim than Walsh at least although both are poor shooters.

[John B]

Zach Collins will be the starting C. I think Pop already made that clear. If there’s a C coming in, it will be a veteran C playing backup. I think Spurs will continue to develop Bassey and Barlow, both showed glimpses of great potential.

Rather, I like the Spurs to pursue a defensive starting PG like Anthony Black to pair with Wemby.

[rankingtear]

I don't get the sarcasm/snobbery due to draft pedigree. Collins is a fringe starter with a skillset that should complement Wembanyama and Bassey is a fringe rotation player (probably just rotational, but I'll err due to small sample size).

The Heat just made their 2nd (and were a shot away from making it in '22) Finals in 4 years, with a bunch of undrafted players playing relatively prominent roles, but somehow the re-building Spurs need a 90s C rotation to either limit Sochan's role or shoehorn him into a position(s) that'll make the offense untenable.

They are going to get a vet center. Wemby is priority no. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. If he does not get to the his prime window healthy even Sochan does not matter.

[TD 21]

They are going to get a vet center. Wemby is priority no. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. If he does not get to the his prime window healthy even Sochan does not matter.

I'm fine with some veteran, low cost fringe rotational C or combo big on a short term contract for depth

[Mr. Body]

Zach Collins will be the starting C. I think Pop already made that clear. If there’s a C coming in, it will be a veteran C playing backup. I think Spurs will continue to develop Bassey and Barlow, both showed glimpses of great potential.

Rather, I like the Spurs to pursue a defensive starting PG like Anthony Black to pair with Wemby.

They can go for both. They can get a defensive PG at almost any point in this draft, with Amari Bailey and Marcus Sasser there at 33. The backup center wouldn't come out of this draft, IMO, unless they find TJD at 33 and want him.

They can see if Jock wants to come back, but I think he earned himself money. They're as likely to see what they can do with Bassey/Mamu/Barlowe.

[exstatic]

They can go for both. They can get a defensive PG at almost any point in this draft, with Amari Bailey and Marcus Sasser there at 33. The backup center wouldn't come out of this draft, IMO, unless they find TJD at 33 and want him.

They can see if Jock wants to come back, but I think he earned himself money. They're as likely to see what they can do with Bassey/Mamu/Barlowe.

Bailey isn’t a PG. Even as a SG on TaT, his asst/TO ratio is listed as a negative trait. If he were a PG, it would be multiple red minuses instead of one.

[Mr. Body]

Bailey isn’t a PG. Even as a SG on TaT, his asst/TO ratio is listed as a negative trait. If he were a PG, it would be multiple red minuses instead of one.

That's fair. To me, I'm more concerned about guarding opposing guards. The team has enough creation on the offensive side that a facilitating point is more of a nice-to-have.

[The Truth #6]

Walsh is very poor offensively.

I'd rather have Andre Jackson if you want a wing defender who is a better finisher at the rim than Walsh at least although both are poor shooters.

If Walsh was a great shooter, then he wouldn’t be available in the second round. Being a poor shooter, obviously could be fatal, but at least he’s a defensive player who can cover many positions, so to me, at least he has some chance of making it in the league, especially with his manic, work ethic and energy. So again, big picture, most second rounders never last, I can only think of a couple second rounders on our team in the last few decades. So I’m starting with the idea of who is a hard worker, who is extremely athletic, has at least one elite NBA skill, and then go from there.

[DAF86]

The Spurs won championships with Centers like Rasho Nesterovic and Francisco Elson.

Yeah, and presidents were elected without the vote of women, but times have changed.

[rascal]

If Walsh was a great shooter, then he wouldn’t be available in the second round. Being a poor shooter, obviously could be fatal, but at least he’s a defensive player who can cover many positions, so to me, at least he has some chance of making it in the league, especially with his manic, work ethic and energy. So again, big picture, most second rounders never last, I can only think of a couple second rounders on our team in the last few decades. So I’m starting with the idea of who is a hard worker, who is extremely athletic, has at least one elite NBA skill, and then go from there.

Andre Jackson > Walsh

[rascal]

Naw. Spurs could have won 4 more games and still been the #3 position. Primo wasn’t worth more than 4 wins and if he was he would had some injury like flasher’s crotch and had to sit.

Primo wasn't any good. He wouldn't have played any better than who the spurs were playing.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, and presidents were elected without the vote of women, but times have changed.

If the Spurs win championships it won't be with centers any better than those.

[DAF86]

If the Spurs win championships it won't be with centers any better than those.

This "Wemby isn't a center" shtick is so damn re ed

If the Spurs win championships with Wemby, it will be with him on the middle and 4 guys playing wide on his sides.