Sources: Suns finalizing trade for Wizards' Bradley Beal

[mo7888]

I'm hearing about those swaps with Washington. I suppose we don't know what years?

I think Suns need to win it all next year and then it starts going south, if it doesn't already. In their favor is a wasteland of a Western Conference. They probably get a lot of ring-chasers to sign for vet minimum. I don't see how they avoid the second tax apron immediately and basically on a permanent basis...

Correct, we don't know what years on the swap or what 2nd's are involved.

Yes, its next year or bust...and itll take alot of good luck next year for them too.

Efited to add: Marks just said its 6 2nd's and two swaps. Phoenix now has no control over any future pick.

[CGD]

Having stepped back a little from my initial
reaction, I think this is a good outcome for Wizards given the givens of Beals ass (sorry i live in DMV area and have thoughts about the guy). Some of the sting of not getting meaning assets in the Suns deal goes away if they can flip Paul for expirings (Gordon/Plumlee is my guess) for the Clippers FRP (30th pick), and later if they can flip Kristap for another pick.

This is the rebuild the fan base has been begging for for year now, only the dip s waited a year too long. But alas… new management doing the right things early in my book.

[kobyz]

They'll flip Ayton for some semblance of depth and draft capital.

More importantly, this is why you never give a player a NTC. Like ever

I still don't understand this trade, why get so lowball by Beal when you also have leverage on him which is to force him stay in Washington

[CGD]

I still don't understand this trade, why get so lowball by Beal when you also have leverage on him which is to force him stay in Washington

You really want to pay Beal 200M to sit on the bench? That dude will happily wait them out.

[Mr. Body]

Phoenix fans will be eating gruel for the rest of the decade after they get slammed in the WCF next season.

[Mugen]

I still don't understand this trade, why get so lowball by Beal when you also have leverage on him which is to force him stay in Washington

They had zero leverage with Beal. Especially with the new FO regime.

The move was to trade him a few years ago. Instead they gave him a max and then inexplicably gave him a no trade clause on top of it.

[Mr. Body]

Beal has only played 57, 60, 40, and 50 games in the last four seasons.

[Ariel]

They had zero leverage with Beal. Especially with the new FO regime.

The move was to trade him a few years ago. Instead they gave him a max and then inexplicably gave him a no trade clause on top of it.

You always have leverage. Trade Porzingis, turn Kuzma into picks, and have him play with G Leaguers, let people know he's keeping you from getting a fair return. Watch his reputation with the fans get ruined, lose sponsorship opportunities, have his personal life affected. Then we'll see if he keeps dictating where he goes by the trade deadline.

[Mr. Body]

Anthony Black goes to Wizards at 8, absolutely the worst possible destination for a guy who needs targets.

I can't even think of a best pick for them there. I'd rather trade down and ac ulate as many future draft picks as possible. If OKC wants into the top 10, see what they'll give you.

[CGD]

You always have leverage. Trade Porzingis, turn Kuzma into picks, and have him play with G Leaguers, let people know he's keeping you from getting a fair return. Watch his reputation with the fans get ruined, lose sponsorship opportunities, have his personal life affected. Then we'll see if he keeps dictating where he goes by the trade deadline.

He doesn’t care about that. All he wanted was his bag. He would happily sit and collect them checks. And it’s not like Wizards don’t have risk with that strategy either, having to explain to the fanbase and season ticket holders why management is pursuing a measuring contest whilst pay out the nose to do so. Not a good look.

Wizards did the right things here. Good riddance.

[CGD]

Anthony Black goes to Wizards at 8, absolutely the worst possible destination for a guy who needs targets.

I can't even think of a best pick for them there. I'd rather trade down and ac ulate as many future draft picks as possible. If OKC wants into the top 10, see what they'll give you.

I think one of the twins will fall to them and they’ll happily take him.

[CGD]

Ok— where are all the Kristap lovers out there? Who wants to build the case for KP for Birch + CHA FRP + a bunch of SRPs?

[Ariel]

He doesn’t care about that. All he wanted was his bag. He would happily sit and collect them checks. And it’s not like Wizards don’t have risk with that strategy either, having to explain to the fanbase and season ticket holders why management is pursuing a measuring contest whilst pay out the nose to do so. Not a good look.

Wizards did the right things here. Good riddance.

You don't have to explain anything, you simply leak through the media the reasons why you can't trade him and the favorable deals he blocked. It's very easy to do and come away with your hands clean. He'll collect his checks either way, you just have to make his situation in Washington uncomfortable enough that he doesn't reject a good deal ANYWHERE. Washington blinked first and lost.

[CGD]

I just disagree. It’s not sustainable for management in the long run to play that game. It’s like the freak out in the public when gas prices increase— nevermind war abroad, congressional uselessness, supply chain yada yada — its always the President’s fault. Always. Human nature to blame the biggest target in the perceived dispute, ESPECIALLY the longer things go.

Wizards new management making the right (but hard) choice here in my view.

[Mr. Body]

It's not even a hard choice. They got what they could for him. Let the Suns pay him $50 million a year for fifty games a season and then crash and burn when they can't stop anybody in the playoffs. Washington starts the rebuild now. First time in a long time their future looked anything like bright.

[talkspurs]

I am wondering if Miami would have interest in Paul. They could use a PG, would be a championship team. Might not have to give up much and would be good for them. He does not work out would work as an expiring. They could rest him for a good part of the season so hopefully he would be healthy for the PO.

[mo7888]

Ok— where are all the Kristap lovers out there? Who wants to build the case for KP for Birch + CHA FRP + a bunch of SRPs?

If i really wanted KP I'd rather just sign him in FA...either this summer if he opts out or next

[kobyz]

You really want to pay Beal 200M to sit on the bench? That dude will happily wait them out.

They didn't even try play leverage with him, no way he would keep hardball for more than 2 days if Wiz give him ultimatum to go to Miami or not to get traded at all, player that in his prime years is in weaken position than the team, and Wiz didn't have reason to hurry, it's doesn't matter if you pay to Paul the big money or to Beal

[Degoat]

They didn't even try play leverage with him, no way he would keep hardball for more than 2 days if Wiz give him ultimatum to go to Miami or not to get traded at all, player that in his prime years is in weaken position than the team

That’s what I’m saying too, Wizards didn’t use what little leverage they did have to their advantage. Makes you wonder if the agents made a side deal or something

[kobyz]

They had zero leverage with Beal. Especially with the new FO regime.

The move was to trade him a few years ago. Instead they gave him a max and then inexplicably gave him a no trade clause on top of it.

They could force his way to Miami who offered 2FRP, just give him ultimatum you going to Miami or not get traded at all

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

lolk

[kobyz]

That’s what I’m saying too, Wizards didn’t use what little leverage they did have to their advantage. Makes you wonder if the agents made a side deal or something

NBA most investigation this stuff, very fishy, corrupt trade

[Mr. Body]

That’s what I’m saying too, Wizards didn’t use what little leverage they did have to their advantage. Makes you wonder if the agents made a side deal or something

They got absolutely everything they could out of the Suns. Phoenix has not a single lick of draft capital until 2030. This was it.

[Dverde]

I love this for them. Win or rebuild. They got two years. Probably not going to work out, but it’s possible.

[cd98]

Clippers injury rehab center is gonna get even busier next year come playoff time.

Please let this happen. It will be the most expensive IR list in NBA history.