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    Sounds about right. It would be SUCH as Wizards move to take back Ayton. Gotta get that play-in slot!

    Jeesh, I hope they don’t do it, but I know they will somehow… ugh!
    I agree... I almost wonder if they went with the Phoenix offer if they wouldn't expand it to include cp3 and add porzingus to the outgoing package? Or maybe they see Ayton and KP as a future front court?

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    I wonder if the Spurs would consider a Beal trade. From the looks of it, there's not a great market for him, so the Spurs could likely beat any offer without much effort. The Spurs could also match salary pretty easily or mostly take Beal into cap space. Just spit-balling, but say the Spurs use do something where they agree to trade for Beal using Keldon, Graham and McDermott

    Micic, Jones, Wesley
    Beal, Branham, Champ
    Vassell, KBD, 33
    Wemby, Sochan, Mamu
    Lopez, Collins, Bassey

    TW: Barlow, 44, camp cast-off

    It would be a completely different look we've talked about. I'm not sure Beal and his contract would be the ideal running mate for Wemby, and I've said before that I don't think the Spurs should consider strong win-now moves at this point. But Beal was a legit All-Star still in what should be his physical prime. That he could be had for so little that the Spurs could probably make two "all-in" trades after making a Beal deal makes him more intriguing for me than the average deal I see thrown out by the media.
    No thanks at $47 million, $50 million, $54 million, and $57 million over the next four years. Didn't even like that shrimp in his prime much less now when he's a China doll.

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    I agree... I almost wonder if they went with the Phoenix offer if they wouldn't expand it to include cp3 and add porzingus to the outgoing package? Or maybe they see Ayton and KP as a future front court?
    I feel like they have bigger trade plans for KP down the road now that he’s opted in. Could see some teams interested in him for a playoff push.

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    again it's not about what teams can offer. Beal can decide what they get back for him. If he wants a trade to Phoenix for CP3, a bag of chips and multiple seconds the Wizards have no option. Now I assume he won't hold them hostage and get them some picks back (from Miami since Phoenix can't offer any 1sts), but it's not about "beating an offer" here
    It is about what teams can offer. It's just not solely about that. Would Beal only be willing to waive his NTC for those teams? Maybe. Could another team sell him? Maybe. Could the Spurs with Pop, Wemby and a bunch of assets sell him? No idea. I don't like his salary. I've been on record that the DPE is basically a failure. But the Spurs can take his salary better than the average team can, both in terms of long-term flexibility and in terms of matching contracts. I don't think they'd have that hard of a time selling him if they really wanted to.

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    Part of the reason for holding up full completion on the Wizards-Suns trade will be to allow Washington to field offers from third teams that would give Chris Paul a chance to land with a contender, sources tell ESPN.

    Woj

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    Part of the reason for holding up full completion on the Wizards-Suns trade will be to allow Washington to field offers from third teams that would give Chris Paul a chance to land with a contender, sources tell ESPN.

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    Makes sense.

    Basically I think teams have to beat out Clips package around expirings and 2023FRP (30th).

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    Makes sense.

    Basically I think teams have to beat out Clips package around expirings and 2023FRP (30th).
    I think it'll be hard to beat that clippers offer...i just dont see teams besting down the door to add cp3 at his #

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    Bill Simmons is reporting this morning that he's talked with a reliable source and expects Zion to be traded this week.

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    Bill Simmons is reporting this morning that he's talked with a reliable source and expects Zion to be traded this week.
    Feels like charlotte to me

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    Zion is like Beal. Saves big headaches by getting rid of him. I would be amazed if he pulled the #2 pick. Charlotte can't be that nuts, can they?

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    Zion is like Beal. Saves big headaches by getting rid of him. I would be amazed if he pulled the #2 pick. Charlotte can't be that nuts, can they?
    I think it depends on the upciming ownership. I know MJ is heading the meetings this week, but youd have to the new ownership would have a lot of influence over a move like that.

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    Feels like charlotte to me

    I could see Charlotte, Portland, or Houston. My guess is Houston though..

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    I could see Charlotte, Portland, or Houston. My guess is Houston though..
    So you think maybe Porter, #4, and some expirings for Fat Brandon Bass? Though can't see why Zion would try there playing in a worse city for a worse organization.

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    So you think maybe Porter, #4, and some expirings for Fat Brandon Bass? Though can't see why Zion would try there playing in a worse city for a worse organization.
    Houstonians eat out more times per week than any other city in the country. It has all kinds of prime hootchie from all kinds of races and some of them are probably porn stars. They've been losers for so long it won't matter if he just grunts up and down the court. Their biggest success in the last twenty years was missing 29 three pointers in a row.

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    So you think maybe Porter, #4, and some expirings for Fat Brandon Bass? Though can't see why Zion would try there playing in a worse city for a worse organization.
    Pretty much... my thinking is based more on my opinion of Fer a than it is anything else.... basically i ask myself...who's the dumbest FO of the 3.... my pick is Houston..

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    Houstonians eat out more times per week than any other city in the country. It has all kinds of prime hootchie from all kinds of races and some of them are probably porn stars. They've been losers for so long it won't matter if he just grunts up and down the court. Their biggest success in the last twenty years was missing 29 three pointers in a row.
    I know Houston has a hot culinary scene right now, but better than New Orleans? And Houston strip clubs are better than New Orleans? San Antonio strip clubs sure won't attract anyone when the es have to wear granny panties though.

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    To the Clippers are looking at blowing it up. George and Kawhi are probably too old and definitely too injury-prone for the Spurs to make an offer for them. I wouldn't 100-percent rule out George, but it would seem more possible next year if the Spurs feel like they're one player away somehow. But Zubac is a guy an RGMer proposed, and he is an interesting big. He's a pretty productive big who holds his own on both ends and is signed to a decent contract for the next two years. I'd want to look at other options before giving up assets for Zubac, but I do think between him and Collins, the Spurs would have a solid center rotation.

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    I don't think the Clips are looking to blow it up? They don't control their picks and are still pretty compe ive.

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    George for Simons and the 3 is a good way to avoid paying an often injured guy 200 million for 4 years.

    it’ll kill Portland, the Clippers put all their chips behind the cancerous and Scoot Henderson.


    interesting if It happebs

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    I don't think the Clips are looking to blow it up? They don't control their picks and are still pretty compe ive.

    chance to get a good player in Scoot, get off of having to commit 200 million for four years to George.

    maybe flip Simons for a little more depth.

    I can see it.

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    I see the latest news. Yeah, if they can manage to get Scoot, Simons and Nurkic for George, you do that instantly.

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    100%.

    simons Scoot Nurkic Leonard whoever else is a solid five

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    ROFL if Portland trades #3 for ing China doll Paul George.

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    The Paul George rumor comes from Marc Stein who has never been right in probably the last 5 years.

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    I also saw on hoopshype this morning that LeBron is frustrated with AD and theres a non-zero chance that they trade him. Maybevthey wantbto compete with The Clips for Portland's #3?

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