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    You don't have to explain anything, you simply leak through the media the reasons why you can't trade him and the favorable deals he blocked. It's very easy to do and come away with your hands clean. He'll collect his checks either way, you just have to make his situation in Washington uncomfortable enough that he doesn't reject a good deal ANYWHERE. Washington blinked first and lost.
    You assume there were more favorable deals on the table. This might not have been the case. His contract is poison and he'll still have the NTC with his new team. I thought Miami would have offered something like Lowry, Robinson, pick 18 and maybe a future asset or two, but apparently they got wind Lillard could be had and might not have offered that at all.

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    Are the Wizards finally ready to not be the dumbest run franchise in the league? This is a shocking

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    You assume there were more favorable deals on the table. This might not have been the case. His contract is poison and he'll still have the NTC with his new team. I thought Miami would have offered something like Lowry, Robinson, pick 18 and maybe a future asset or two, but apparently they got wind Lillard could be had and might not have offered that at all.
    i'm not assuming anything, reports are BEAL made the call on HIS best interest:
    https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/stat...41024630919170
    The no-trade clause in Bradley Beal's contract ultimately allowed him to choose his next destination. Beal picked the Suns over multiple other trade options, including Miami, Milwaukee and Sacramento, sources tell @ShamsCharania

    https://theathletic.com/4620733/2023...ds-chris-paul/
    There’s at least one other essential question here: Why did the Wizards choose the Suns’ offer over the Miami Heat’s offer? It appears Washington may not have had a choice. At the very end of the process, as Beal weighed pitches from the Suns and the Heat, he had power to determine where he would go.

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    Yeah, Beal picked his destination. His agent is also the son of the CEO of the Suns. Neat bit of business.

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    Washington always had a choice. They could have not complied and told him to F off. Like Morey did with Simmons, like the Nets did with Durant and Irving. If they're trying to get you to lose, you make sure they understand they lose as well. We both win, or we both lose. Then reason kicks in.

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    Washington always had a choice. They could have not complied and told him to F off. Like Morey did with Simmons, like the Nets did with Durant and Irving. If they're trying to get you to lose, you make sure they understand they lose as well. We both win, or we both lose. Then reason kicks in.
    Yeah, I agree, even though they're the ones that gave him the NTC, they should have played hardball with him so that both come out well from the trade, not just Beal himself.

    I wonder what Milwaukee would have offered and/or how serious their offer was.

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    If the wizards are blowing it up, Spurs should get in on Kuzma and/or Avdija. Gotta boost the championship and international DNA on the roster.

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    10911189[/URL]]If the wizards are blowing it up, Spurs should get in on Kuzma and/or Avdija. Gotta boost the championship and international DNA on the roster.
    Kuzma is not over himself. He’s a free agent, but I doubt the Spurs are interested.

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    Washington always had a choice. They could have not complied and told him to F off. Like Morey did with Simmons, like the Nets did with Durant and Irving. If they're trying to get you to lose, you make sure they understand they lose as well. We both win, or we both lose. Then reason kicks in.
    How’d that work out for Philly? They damaged his value themselves, still ended up getting pennys on the dollar in trade, and now it looks like Harden is going to ghost them.

    Nets never told anyone to off. Durant got to go exactly where he wanted, and the Kyrie trade wasn’t much better than the Beal Trade, one FRP, versus a couple of swaps.

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    How’d that work out for Philly? They damaged his value themselves, still ended up getting pennys on the dollar in trade, and now it looks like Harden is going to ghost them.
    It worked great for Philly - they got Harden for less than what he would have cost them straight from the Rockets.

    Nets never told anyone to off. Durant got to go exactly where he wanted, and the Kyrie trade wasn’t much better than the Beal Trade, one FRP, versus a couple of swaps.
    Not even in the same ballpark in terms of returns. You're citing 'swaps' as if '24 and '26 swaps mean anything when Washington is entering a total rebuild. Nets got 2 starters that they could flip for value and a completely unprotected 1st from Dallas down the line after Luka's current contract expires, whereas Washington will get a couple of picks in the 50s and salary ballast.

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    Suns have to be thinking of limiting minutes for Booker, beal and kd during regular season and hope they are not gassed or hurt for playoffs

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    Wow, it's being reported now that Washington is including Jordan Goodwin in the deal, which is hard to believe-- he's young, on an extremely cheap contract, and a pretty good back up point guard with a great assist-to-TO ratio. That's a coup for Phoenix if true. It immediately solves two of their problems-- depth and PG play. It'll be interesting to see what Porzingis does now. This offseason is shaping up to be really interesting.

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    Wow, it's being reported now that Washington is including Jordan Goodwin in the deal, which is hard to believe-- he's young, on an extremely cheap contract, and a pretty good back up point guard with a great assist-to-TO ratio. That's a coup for Phoenix if true. It immediately solves two of their problems-- depth and PG play. It'll be interesting to see what Porzingis does now. This offseason is shaping up to be really interesting.
    washington would have been better off eating 1 more year of beal's deal than looking to trade him this offseason if this was the only deal. guess it depends on whether they can get any meaningful return for cp0

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    washington would have been better off eating 1 more year of beal's deal than looking to trade him this offseason if this was the only deal. guess it depends on whether they can get any meaningful return for cp0
    Beal had full control over where he could be traded to. Why sit on his salary for yet another year?

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    CP3 just have an interview and cited Isaiah Thomas as playing a role in the trade.... its starting to make sense now...

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    I'm not a huge fan of Beal's, but moving on from an undersized 38 year old PG who gets injured almost every playoff season isn't the most shocking decision, even if he did have a HOF career. Beal + Goodwin + depth from an Ayton trade would make them better as a team.

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    If the wizards are blowing it up, Spurs should get in on Kuzma and/or Avdija. Gotta boost the championship and international DNA on the roster.
    Love to see what we could make of Deni.

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    I don't know why people think it's a good idea to put stars who score a lot of points and never win together on the same team. Lebron somehow gets ring chasers to follow him, but who is gonna follow KD and Beal?

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    Beal had full control over where he could be traded to. Why sit on his salary for yet another year?
    Yep and new rules july 1 with new agreement
    Suns had to do this before the new rules

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    I don't know why people think it's a good idea to put stars who score a lot of points and never win together on the same team. Lebron somehow gets ring chasers to follow him, but who is gonna follow KD and Beal?
    Can the suns even sign chasers? If theure over the 2nd apron aren't they prohibited from signing buyout players who had contracts over $12.5M?

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    Can the suns even sign chasers? If theure over the 2nd apron aren't they prohibited from signing buyout players who had contracts over $12.5M?
    Surely they expect good role players to be willing to take league minimum to win a championship with selfish one-dimensional stars. Honestly, it couldn't happen to a better team.

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    Surely they expect good role players to be willing to take league minimum to win a championship with selfish one-dimensional stars. Honestly, it couldn't happen to a better team.
    Im saying i think the new CBA prevents them from signing buyout players for the minimum in they're over the 2nd apron.

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    Im saying i think the new CBA prevents them from signing buyout players for the minimum in they're over the 2nd apron.
    Which would mean they have to fill out their roster with league minimum contracts, yes?

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    Which would mean they have to fill out their roster with league minimum contracts, yes?
    League minimum giys who werent bought out by another team that season making over $12.5M.... yes..

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