Fun and Games With Picks and Cap Space

[rascal]

So what about TOR Pick + CHA Pick + 3 2nds + Graham + Bassey?

You are only net giving up 1 first (TOR pick capped at 6) since you are getting 10 back. You can guarantee the TOR pick conveys basically (already high likelihood to be fair) at pick 10 for the cost of CHA pick + 2-3 2nds

That won't get you 10. That charlotte pick isn't even a lottery pick and that if it conveys. Graham and Bassey and 2nds have little to no trade value.

[John B]

You set the deal framework up now at #8. If he’s there you pick him, you don’t wait to see if he drops to 10. While trades happen during the draft, they’re rarely spontaneous. I mean, with that logic, if he falls to #14, you should still pay 3 FRPs because you would have at 8. Picks have a value, and 8 is worth more than 10, so you don’t throw the 8 bag at pick 10.

Can 3 FRP’s get it done without moving Keldon? I’m really hoping PATFO are working hard to get someone like Anthony Black.

[DPG21920]

That won't get you 10. That charlotte pick isn't even a lottery pick and that if it conveys. Graham and Bassey and 2nds have little to no trade value.

You sure? 100% certain Dallas does this deal. Pretty certain PHX would be interested as well. I think SA has the biggest decision here personally. PHX close 2nd.

[Mr. Body]

Dallas needs better players this year.

[DPG21920]

Dallas needs better players this year.

They are using pick 10 to get Ayton while still getting a future first to trade/use

[Ariel]

Very well thought out thread. The more I think about it, I've come to a few conclusions:
1) The 2 targets I'd really like to land, are Black and Bufkin
2) Black will not get past 8/9, and teams will try to rip us apart with their demands
3) Bufkin can go as early as 9 but may last until 13. In the latter case, we might be able to buy a pick in the 10-12 range (Dallas/Orlando/OKC).
4) The mechanism you explain is a very reasonable way to offer those teams a pick in the same draft plus some assets, in case their target is available a few spots down the board.

Something like this would be very interesting IMO
1) Trade with Miami: Charlotte '24 for #18 + Oladipo (1 year 9.5M)
2) Trade with Dallas: #18 + 3 2nd rounders for #10 + Bertans (2 years, 17M + 16M -of which 5M guaranteed-) + McGee (2 years 5.7M + 6M guaranteed).
3) Use #10 on Bufkin.
That'd mean we'd take in an extra 32.2M the first year, and 11M the second, to get a really good prospect and great fit.

[Ariel]

They are using pick 10 to get Ayton while still getting a future first to trade/use

If that were the case, we could get in the running for #10 by offering Dallas future picks and bad salary (Bertans & McGee), and Phoenix role players (Zach Collins, McDermott, Graham).

[Mr. Body]

Can 3 FRP’s get it done without moving Keldon? I’m really hoping PATFO are working hard to get someone like Anthony Black.

IMO to attract the attention of Washington (8) or Dallas (10) you need to give them something this year. If the Spurs can get one of the picks I listed (18, 19) then you have a basis for trading up to them; they don't leave the first round with nothing.

However, I feel like OKC is going to throw picks at teams to move at least into the top 8 from their current 12.

[EricB]

The pick to get will be 11. Orlando supposedly doesn’t want 2 rookies

[rascal]

Everyone is focused on the draft class PGs but the Spurs may just trade for a PG Vet using #44 and one of their future firsts.

Spurs are frugal and won't trade away a boatload of future first round picks for a PG in the draft.

[Mr. Body]

Everyone is focused on the draft class PGs but the Spurs may just trade for a PG Vet using #44 and one of their future firsts.

Spurs are frugal and won't trade away a boatload of future first round picks for a PG in the draft.

Which PG vet?

[CGD]

I'd have the same idea - like the OKC - DENVER trade. 44, Charlotte pick, one of the 2024 seconds to Milwaukee (or Boston, or...) for a distant (very weakly protected) 1st. Upgrade the value of assets, push them into the future when we'll have to add depth on the cheap, cheap depth for a contender now.

Good thought— when they did that trade i kinda lamented we didn’t do it lol. But definitely think that’s the way to “upgrade” the CHA pick