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Like you I’m just waiting for Thursday to come. In the meantime, what ST es do before then?
So a team would trade their 7th pick for a guy who would be a 6th man for us. Make it make sense. At least DJ was already an All Star when he was traded for value. Keldon is arguably yielding more value than DJ did in your fantasy yet he has accomplished nothing. The elephant in the room is the delusion of some people here. I cant wait for Thursday to come.
Like you I’m just waiting for Thursday to come. In the meantime, what ST es do before then?
They Won't trade him now, but the trade keldon movement is based on wemby sochan and vassell being better. Keldon is a tweeter playing at SF, and his strengths, driving for buckets, is exactly what wemby does. What is keldon going to do in the wemby verse that wemby and sochan not do better?
You expect him to say NO to that.
Like I said anther thread Keldon has a knack for scoring but he's a bad defender, a weak rebounder for a SF and just shot 32% from three last season. He's poor fit next to Wemby and Sochan and is by far the most expendable among the three of them. Not sure why people are married to the guy.
I still think the Raps pick would need to be included with Keldon to get Black because of the various holes in Keldons game.
I don't think that's what he said re: KJ/Devin. He said something like 'we dont have any plans to trade those guys'. That's just Press talk waiting to see what materializes when were on the clock.
Based one one of the tweets, he literally cut off the question of Keldon or Vassell trades before it was finished being asked. Didn't seem pro forma.
Talking about packaging picks doesn't involve any human egos or feelings, but talking about trading specific players does in a big big way. If some kooky rival GM falls in love with the idea of KJ as a 20 ppg piece and makes a great offer, it'd be crazy not to accept it. I just don't think it'll happen.
Spurs are probably going to have to move Keldon anyways with Sochan looking like he'll be a better player so if someone they love is still on the board I wouldn't be opposed to a trade.
I don't know much about Black but do know Kelden is not the guy we need. Unless there's a big trade involving KJ about to happen this is the most we'll be able to squeeze out a KJ trade. KJ is going to be reduced to Willie Anderson status after SA got situated with Elliott and DRob. Trade him while he's hot!
It's just as likely Keldon will take off this year with eyes on the team. Firing off threes, hard drives to the basket as gifts from the gravity Wemby brings.
That said, I think the days of splurging draft picks for players are over. Beal sort of reset things and few teams look better for having done so.
Saying you don't want to trade Keldon only means the Spurs aren't the ones making the offers. There is certainly a price at which the Spurs would trade him. That's basically what happened with White: the Spurs really wanted to keep him but Boston made a rich enough offer that the Spurs took it.
I don’t agree. This was a very specific case of a player past his sell by date with gobs of money still due, and a no trade clause thrown in for good measure.
My gut tells me there may be a little extra draft day wizardry for the Spurs but nothing major. Maybe a late first rounder if they are crazy about someone.
This team really played without a focal point last season and in many ways, they overachieved.
Putting Wemby in the center of this mix changes everything. Not only will it be easier for other players, it will lead to winning which is irreplaceable in team-building.
Sochan, Branham, Vassell and KJ are all going to have the game become easier.
Once they see what they have, I think they will make moves.
Poetl returning would be a pretty great score.
I think you're wrong, and for one reason. We were ac ulating assets to try to get a franchise player. More picks, more chances. Don't need to do that any more since we won the lottery, so it's time to spend some loot. I'd leave the 2 ATL picks and swap, and the Boston swap off the table, but that still leaves us a nice war chest, and three FRPs to use in this draft. We could well be stuck with three FRPs in the draft next year again if we don't spend some Thursday night.
Keldon is not likely to ever score 20 a game again. Better to trade him while his value is high.
but will manu ever score 20+ in a single game again?
I mean average 20 a game for Keldon.
Who said it was high? If random fans on a message board know to not read into counting stats without context, executives of NBA teams somehow don't?
I agree with many here that we need to trade KJ while he is hot. Limited ceiling. If we can fill a positional need with high upside and a rookie salary, the net positive is going to be better for our team.
It isn't very high but it's the highest it will be.
Players usually take another leap in their 5th year. I don’t think you have to trade Keldon right now
Also, if the Spurs were planning on trading Keldon, you could imagine Wright rejecting it like that in a way that would come off as a bit defensive. Like:
Interviewer: "What's your plan for draft day?"
Wright (coyly): "It's a secret."
I: "Is it (a bunch of stuff that isn't the Spurs' plan)?"
W (finger on over his mouth as he fights to contain a grin: "I don't know, maybe."
I: "What about (exactly what the Spurs' plan is)?"
W (caught off guard and a bit annoyed): "N-no. That's the LEAST likely thing we'd do."
Unless Wright is worried that anything but a unequivocal rejection would cause issues with Keldon and Devin, there isn't a ton of upside in being clear about their plans not to trade them. Even if they don't intend to, teams might call asking about them, which can open up conversations about other ways to get their pick. Any team that is willing to trade a pick in the Spurs' desired range for KJ/DV is one who has declared their pick has a price. It's more likely that Wright said that to either keep those guys from moping or to drive up their value than it was just an admission of fact. We already know Wright knows how to lie due to the whole Primo thing.
Keldong is going to look effin fantastic playing as a third option next to Wembanyama. He's going to get so many rim-crunching dunks on barely covered drives and get a lot of low-stress threes.
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