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    Kuzma has said he'd rather play bad in a place like LA and get the attention than play well in Oklahoma and no one notices.
    Give him the bag and gain fame playing with Wemby. Cut a fat hog in the ass as they would say back in the day.

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    Ayton is a loser. Keep losers the away from this franchise.
    Try make him a winner

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    Keldon is better than Grant Williams and Kyle Kuzma. Also Zach Collins puts up Ayton like stats and doesn't play video games all night for 1/4th of his salary

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    Kuzma.... No.

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    Give him the bag and gain fame playing with Wemby. Cut a fat hog in the ass as they would say back in the day.
    No, hon.

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    Got the smoke screen going. Good. Zach and Bassey will do the banging.

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    Got the smoke screen going. Good. Zach and Bassey will do the banging.
    Phrasing?

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    lol

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    I mean is anybody gonna make an offer on Grant Williams? He’s in that Lonnie Walker category. Something like 2 years 15 million would probably do it for him. He would be a great guy off the bench. He has size and toughness and we just need him to hit the open 3. He wouldn’t be starting.

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    He's a big body that can bang in the paint, play reasonable team defence and spread the floor (40% 3p over last 2 years on good volume). Plus he's a year older than KJ (24) so can fit/grow with the team. No idea why he didn't play more in the playoffs but it did seem like Mazzulla didn't trust him, or at least favoured his guard rotation over him which pushed Brown/Tatum etc down positions.

    His 'type' would do well next to Wemby. I'd like him here but not sure where the minutes come from and doubt he signs up to be the 4th big.
    I don't get it. I understand that he's young, and, well, stocky, but other than attempting 3s and supposed to be a good defender I don't think he's good enough to justify his contract.

    He reportedly turned down 4/50. Nate Duncan has talked him up for the Spurs at a salary starting around 16-18 million a year.

    That's an absurd amount of money for a guy who doesn't really score, doesn't block shots, doesn't get steals and kind of disappears from games and rotations. 6 rebounds per 36?

    I don't think the Spurs should themselves into that kind of player with those years and that kind of money.

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    I don't get it. I understand that he's young, and, well, stocky, but other than attempting 3s and supposed to be a good defender I don't think he's good enough to justify his contract.

    He reportedly turned down 4/50. Nate Duncan has talked him up for the Spurs at a salary starting around 16-18 million a year.

    That's an absurd amount of money for a guy who doesn't really score, doesn't block shots, doesn't get steals and kind of disappears from games and rotations. 6 rebounds per 36?

    I don't think the Spurs should themselves into that kind of player with those years and that kind of money.
    $16m is 12% of the cap, so not crazy at all for a 3rd big. If you're paying that it's because you think he's more than what he showed this season, not a star, but a really good cog to mesh with stars. And there's a fair case for that given how he never had a settled role in the Celtics rotation. Supposedly the starters wanted him to be paying more but Mazzulla had different ideas, weird stuff going on with that squad this season.

    But I think he wants the chance to start, which won't be here, and if he can't find that then would probably prefer 3rd big on the Celtics than elsewhere.

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    $16m is 12% of the cap, so not crazy at all for a 3rd big. If you're paying that it's because you think he's more than what he showed this season, not a star, but a really good cog to mesh with stars. And there's a fair case for that given how he never had a settled role in the Celtics rotation. Supposedly the starters wanted him to be paying more but Mazzulla had different ideas, weird stuff going on with that squad this season.

    But I think he wants the chance to start, which won't be here, and if he can't find that then would probably prefer 3rd big on the Celtics than elsewhere.
    He would be the 4th big here. Collins, Sochan, Wemby. 12% is a lot to pay for a 3rd big let alone 4th. If he was the 4th best on the team it may not be bad but teams that give out these contracts are the ones that end up in bad position.

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    I would sign Vooch, from the reports i think he would be willing to do 2 years 50. Big body, low key vet, international, shooting, playmaking, post defense, pretty durable last few years, and still young enough to be a good backup C after his contract. We would hit the floor and have cap flexibility in the future. Still gives Collins breathing room to take that spot after a year if he progresses. Zollins and Bassey have yet to show they can hold up playing big minutes in a 82 game season much less protect Wemby his first 2 years, I would not risk it. Atleast get Mason Plumlee. We can and should use the money upto the tax line specially for the guys who would take 2 year deals.

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    I’m not hating on Mamu and think he has got some talent, but why do so many Spurs fans seem to really like this dude? LMAO.

    He has some interesting offensive talent, but he is bad defensively and a bad tweener aka he isn’t big enough to guard solid bigs and isn’t quick enough to guard mobile bigs. Zach needs a need contract, I like Bassey and I think Barlow is worth another 2 way deal, but Mamu is the odd man out with the bigs currently on the roster.

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    "San Antonio was known to be waiting with a short-term contract for Reid and the hope of pairing him with Victor Wembanyama in the frontcourt, sources said. Now the Spurs will have to turn to other targets, perhaps someone like Pelicans center Jonas Valančiūnas, as New Orleans and San Antonio recently did business on offloading Devonte’ Graham’s contract, and the Pelicans, sources said, have since made Valanciunas available in search of more mobile, rim-protecting big men."

    2023 NBA free agency: With John Collins trade, forwards dominating early discussions (yahoo.com)

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    I’m not hating on Mamu and think he has got some talent, but why do so many Spurs fans seem to really like this dude? LMAO.

    He has some interesting offensive talent, but he is bad defensively and a bad tweener aka he isn’t big enough to guard solid bigs and isn’t quick enough to guard mobile bigs. Zach needs a need contract, I like Bassey and I think Barlow is worth another 2 way deal, but Mamu is the odd man out with the bigs currently on the roster.
    IMO he is a pretty exciting player to watch, he's demonstrated a knack for making clever plays and big shots. Agreed he is not a perfect fit defensively, but I really do want to keep him around to see how he develops. He's more than big enough to guard just about anyone ("Listed at 6’11 with an improving 240-pound frame and a 7’1 wingspan," per NBA.com draft profile), but he plays a finesse game so he maybe lacks the physicality you're looking for.

    Personally I think there are going to be some eye popping moments throughout the season with Mamu and Wembanyama on the floor together.

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    I’m not hating on Mamu and think he has got some talent, but why do so many Spurs fans seem to really like this dude? LMAO.

    He has some interesting offensive talent, but he is bad defensively and a bad tweener aka he isn’t big enough to guard solid bigs and isn’t quick enough to guard mobile bigs. Zach needs a need contract, I like Bassey and I think Barlow is worth another 2 way deal, but Mamu is the odd man out with the bigs currently on the roster.
    He's an incredible passer for his size. No, he's not odd man out.

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    The Spurs are going to rip teams apart with ball movement.

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    I’d be fine with Valunciunas so long as we don’t overpay. He’s an expiring this season so he wouldn’t fetch a FRP or anything like that. He always balls out when he plays the Spurs though, so I’m here he’s very much on their radar.

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    I’m not hating on Mamu and think he has got some talent, but why do so many Spurs fans seem to really like this dude? LMAO.

    He has some interesting offensive talent, but he is bad defensively and a bad tweener aka he isn’t big enough to guard solid bigs and isn’t quick enough to guard mobile bigs. Zach needs a need contract, I like Bassey and I think Barlow is worth another 2 way deal, but Mamu is the odd man out with the bigs currently on the roster.
    People who peruse box scores to make player evaluations get sniffed out pretty quickly.

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    I like Mamu's game and am rooting for him, but I have to be realistic-- playing alongside Giannis would in theory be perfect for a 6'11 center who's a good passer and can occasionally hit a three. That fact that Milwaukee waived him and his minimum contract is pretty telling. Could he be a 5th big? Sure.

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    I think the targetting centers talk is baseless. The C rotation is set with Collins, Bassey & Mamu unless the Spurs get an offer that they cannot refuse. What the Spurs lack is a good PG to set up the team and who can reasonably shoot threes. Jones is a great back-up, but isn't the ideal starter. Graham doesn't cut it and Wesley is too raw.

    The Wizards are flush with three PGs in Tyus Jones, Monte Morris & Delon Wright, besides Jordan Poole who will be a combo guard. The asking price for Morris might be a tad too high, but I think the Spurs shouldn't hesitate in trying to pry out Delon Wright if they have the possibility. He is a good defender, an acceptable shooter and can be around for a relatively short contract (expiring next year).

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    Mamu could definitely suck.

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    Mamu said at the Wemby press conference that he would like to be back, but doesn't know his status. So it's still up in the air

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    I think the targetting centers talk is baseless. The C rotation is set with Collins, Bassey & Mamu unless the Spurs get an offer that they cannot refuse.
    If that's the case the Spurs wouldn't be interested in Naz Reid and reports said they were and had a deal ready for him

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