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    Nope

    Development of human body or an athlete body is not like that. Movement in a game you do while practicing basketball.
    What you want is to develop motor skills of a player to recruit muscle type fibers you want.
    Of season is the time to get stronger and you are not gonna do it through bands.

    All in all I see nobody here actually knows anything about training but that's fine. I am not gonna educate ppl here much.
    To me it makes no sense as I do not see here even a base knowledge...
    Motor skills are movement used in a game.

    You literally said, "Nope, what you want to do is what you said to do."

    Resistance band training absolutely increases strength and it is the safer strength building for active athletes over constant weights to bulk up as you suggest.

    Your comments sound like an anytime fitness trainer with the 60 hour online cert or something.

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    He should be in load management program so that Spurs can still be in lottery for one more year

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    Motor skills are movement used in a game.

    You literally said, "Nope, what you want to do is what you said to do."

    Resistance band training absolutely increases strength and it is the safer strength building for active athletes over constant weights to bulk up as you suggest.

    Your comments sound like an anytime fitness trainer with the 60 hour online cert or something.
    Get some knowledge dude, then speak

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    The team that started load management is not going to make him guard the Embiids and Davises any more than they are going to try to force feed him to 260 lbs. He's a professional athlete who will continue strength training nonetheless.

    This whole convo is stupid and the place just seems full of Polish people taking idiotically contrarian positions.

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    The team that started load management is not going to make him guard the Embiids and Davises any more than they are going to try to force feed him to 260 lbs. He's a professional athlete who will continue strength training nonetheless.

    This whole convo is stupid and the place just seems full of Polish people taking idiotically contrarian positions.
    I agree.
    Especially considering his entourage has already been clear about it. It's not negociable, he won't bulk.

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    Watching Vic, he's like bamboo. Yes he's currently limited in strength, but he just reaches over people like a giant tree to make up for it

    Grow his strength slowly, the right way, and dont piss off his people. His length overcompensates in the meantime.

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    i know the french league is different, but at least in the playoffs, he's been playing basically every other day and comfortably 30+ minutes each game (5/21, 5/23, 5/25, 5/28, 5/30). he's played over 34 minutes each of the last 4 games even in that condensed schedule.

    he wont be averaging 40mpg like duncan did early in his career or anything like that, but i dont think he's going to be bubble wrapped unless he actually gets banged up. they probably will be cautious when it comes to recovery timelines, but as long as he's healthy, i dont expect random benchings or specific minute restrictions

    even when the spurs were riding dejounte like a workhorse in his last season here while nearly averaging a triple double, he averaged less than 35mpg

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    i know the french league is different, but at least in the playoffs, he's been playing basically every other day and comfortably 30+ minutes each game (5/21, 5/23, 5/25, 5/28, 5/30). he's played over 34 minutes each of the last 4 games even in that condensed schedule.

    he wont be averaging 40mpg like duncan did early in his career or anything like that, but i dont think he's going to be bubble wrapped unless he actually gets banged up. they probably will be cautious when it comes to recovery timelines, but as long as he's healthy, i dont expect random benchings or specific minute restrictions

    even when the spurs were riding dejounte like a workhorse in his last season here while nearly averaging a triple double, he averaged less than 35mpg
    Re: the Duncan comment…honestly that’s more a sign of the current times more than anything else. Pascal Siakam led the league in mpg at 37.4 this season. There were only 10 guys in the league who averaged 36 mpg. Guys just don’t really play 40 mpg (or close to it) in the regular season these days.

    Regardless I agree with the expectations. I think something in the 28-32 mpg range is pretty reasonable assuming he doesn’t start to get banged up or anything. Will be a little disappointed if they’re ultra-conservative and play him something like 20 mpg but ultimately trust their judgment.

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    He clearly needs a few lessons from polandprzem's master training course, tbh

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    Looks like we are getting a clearer picture of the plan for Wembanyama, and it does not include an abnormal amount of rest. I'm sure player and staff will evaluate as the season goes on but hearing that he plans to play as many games as possible is exciting. The new elite performance centre is going to be the perfect element to bring the best out of Victor and his body. I'm increasingly confident that all the pieces are in place for this guy to be everything we are hoping he will be.

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    Well we can throw liad management away. This kid wants to hit the ground running. I’m not sure if he has talked with Pop, because I doubt that’s what Pop had in mind. He wants to slowly build this kid to NBA strong. The future of the franchise is on this kid’s shoulders to risk any injuries.

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    He clearly needs a few lessons from polandprzem's master training course, tbh
    I guess so.
    Lets's put him on scales a yea from now and we will see who's gonna laugh then.

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    That is so wrong on many levels tbh. You jyst like timvp has no idea how ut works with body development.

    Tbqh he is weak inside as I took a look. So it us critical fir him to get stronger. If those exercises they showed are the only one he trains. With all flexability stretch work. They need to find anither coach.
    I think in NBA they do know better.

    Anyway you di nit separate prigrans to natural and unnatural. They are designed.
    In NBA you do have good enhancements but then if your image is pumpin iron kinda sessions... Nope.

    To develop strength you do not need juge muscles but they come in handy. And to build muscles it is hard to do when you are basketball player. He would have to go 2 years without basketball to gain muscles and then strength to be satisfying for the nba level as I can see.

    Its a shame that at 19 he was not introduced to weights.

    Things he needs most are mobility work hypertrophy work then strength going to power abd then speed.

    Not also he lacks strength but his knees are bad. Foot butt and legs a must.

    20pds by his second season is a must imo. And not much more.

    Damn I was so right.

    All those duchebags in this thread can kiss their ass

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    Damn I was so right.

    All those duchebags in this thread can kiss their ass
    So right about what? The lanky as , 7feet, 19-20yo athlete putting on some weight throughout his first NBA season and off-season?

    You do remember coming into the thread bashing Wemby's strength/training regime and saying it wouldn't be enough, and he needed to be Liftin' Weights like a gymrat, or else..... And now Wemby has put on the same amount of muscle that you wanted him to, without any noted changes to his training regime.... right??

    For a 19yro dude not lifting weights as a sporstman is a crime. He can do flexability work as much as he wants but the body will not take much if not strong.
    Wemby also managed a full season + Olympics without major injuries, something he supposedly shouldn't have been able to overcome without significant Liftin'.

    What's with Spurstalk and "I-was-right" posters completely forgetting the points they were trying to make in the first place? It's beyond pathetic goalpost-moving, this is some goalpost rewriting

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    Can U be more pathetic then that?


    Gymrat hahahaha- how many more lies you can put in your lousy post?



    Of course I was right and I said I will be back with it to throw it on dummies

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    I guess so.
    Lets's put him on scales a yea from now and we will see who's gonna laugh then.

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    Wembanyama tallied those before toiling for months this summer refining his body, packing 25 pounds of muscle onto his physique.


    That's Wembanyama's own personal conundrum, too, finding ways to coax the most from his body and skill set. The second-year man gained strength over the summer to prevent opponents from easily pushing him off his spots.
    As a by-product, Wembanyama added an additional 25 pounds from his listed rookie weight of 210 pounds.
    That has helped Wembanyama to improve accuracy through contact.


    I do like those quotesfrom ESPN. Esp. when it is exactly what I was saying a year ago about him making that progress this year
    Last edited by polandprzem; 10-20-2024 at 04:32 PM.

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    After not many minutes Wemby played this preseason you still could see his progress in strength development. He is not pushed around by point guards like he was a year ago.

    This is 100% what I posted last year in response what Wemby should do and how they gonna achieve it. That is a nice progression considering he had Olympics. If not for that he would be even better. But no hurry tbh.

    Let's see how much they will up his minutes cause last year he was too weak placing 79 in the league - this year he might play additional 5 minutes which would be huge.


    He looked good but still IMO he will be going slowly into season as he probably needs to shake that pounding off him.

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    Vic hasn't gained as much weight as we thought and as was repported. He laught at the official numbers the journalist told him

    It's the french questions at the end of the video, I'm not good at converting the kg/Lbs but he said that there was a 1%-5% max evolution per season.

    He probably gained 10 pounds max

    Sorry polandprzem


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    Wembanyama tallied those before toiling for months this summer refining his body, packing 25 pounds of muscle onto his physique.


    That's Wembanyama's own personal conundrum, too, finding ways to coax the most from his body and skill set. The second-year man gained strength over the summer to prevent opponents from easily pushing him off his spots.
    As a by-product, Wembanyama added an additional 25 pounds from his listed rookie weight of 210 pounds.
    That has helped Wembanyama to improve accuracy through contact.


    I do like those quotesfrom ESPN. Esp. when it is exactly what I was saying a year ago about him making that progress this year
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...gaining_25lbs/

    Victor himself has said the stories of him adding 25lbs are fake news.

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    Victor does not need to become Mr. Universe, the universe speaks to him. That's enough to rule the planet.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...gaining_25lbs/

    Victor himself has said the stories of him adding 25lbs are fake news.
    Beat me to it! And thanks for the source

    Q: Just on the subject of your weight/muscle gains, you spoke I think of 10-11kg (22-25lbs) in 12 months...

    Wemby: No, no, no. Not at all. That's a fake news. 10 kg (22lbs) in 12 months, that's impossible without getting injured. What was my weight when arriving in the NBA exactly?

    Q: Your precise weight is 106kg (~235lbs) [now], and -11kg (i.e. 95kg or ~210lbs) [when arriving in the NBA].

    Wemby: When I arrived in the NBA? Impossible. The 95kgs (210lbs), I weighted that at ASVEL (2021-22). The highest weight I had at ASVEL must have been 94kg (207lbs). [We try to aim] between 1 and 5% per 12 months.
    Wemby personally dunking all over Poland's wet dreams.

    Q: How do you work [on your weight training] in a way that doesn't negatively impact your mobility, playstyle, or shooting?

    Wemby: So you kinda already have the answer, but I don't struggle to gain weight. During the summer with time to work, it's possible that I gain too much weight. So it's a lot of physical training, but here, it's not at all our style to work with exercises that simply put weight on the body without also working on mobility. It's rather simply developing in an organic/natural way.
    It's actually noteworthy just how much he stressed his disdain for traditional "bulking ups". And quite aligned with modern medicine and sports science understanding. They clearly have every idea of where they want to be, and how to get Wemby there safely.

    After not many minutes Wemby played this preseason you still could see his progress in strength development. He is not pushed around by point guards like he was a year ago.
    It's actually beautiful that you said this, tbh, because I do agree with you on it. He's gotten noticeably stronger. The fact that you can clearly see that he got there, by going the exact opposite way that you suggested, is honestly poetic.

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    Sports Science has come a long way I would be curious to see how Robinson training back in the day was instructed as he did gain muscle but it was mainly on shoulders and arms. He did have some insane core strength able to walk on his hands the length of the court I always wonder if he messed up his back lifting heavy weights when he was younger.

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    Sports Science has come a long way I would be curious to see how Robinson training back in the day was instructed as he did gain muscle but it was mainly on shoulders and arms. He did have some insane core strength able to walk on his hands the length of the court I always wonder if he messed up his back lifting heavy weights when he was younger.
    He had NO core strength. That was the genesis of his back problems. They asked him to tilt on one leg, lean down, and pick a paper cup off the floor, and he couldn’t do it. That damn wasp waist did him in.

    The walking on his hands thing was all upper body strength and balance.

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    I love how Wemby do not know how much he weighted last year

    He says it's impossible to gain 25lbs but he just do not know how much was it last year when they listed him 210lbs.



    Also again some here lack elementary physiology of a human being but fine with me.

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