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    WOOHOO NO LOAD MANAGEMENT

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    “The plan is to avoid big, costly mistakes,” he explained, “and to slowly build this thing out. See what you have first, see what you need, see what can be grown organically and go from there.”
    Nice to see this officially confirmed.

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    I read "what I'm wearing on Wembanyama's Eve". I was gonna tell Kori Ellis to pink the OP.

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    A thing that emerged in these recent and first Vic interviews is how very solidly committed he is to a vision of himself and what he can do. While I imagine the relationship with the Spurs will be incredible, at some point their experience with themselves and the league will need to also become important. He seems remarkably polished and centered for a 19 year-old. I don't think there will be a tug-of-war between himself and the franchise, but I hope the stories of him wanting firm coaching and guidance are true.

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    Wow that’s a lot to digest. Thanks Timvp for the source as always.

    My impression of Wemby is he is verrry motivated to be the best. i’m hoping that Wemby would be trusting to Spurs lomg history of success in keeping their players healthy, and not hindrance to his personal accolades but beneficial to his legacy. TP and Boris should be on his ears constantly.

    Wemby will like to compete as soon as possible. So slow building as others here in ST spoke about may not be the case. Hence, I’d suspect PATFO would be really aggressive surrounding Wemby with talents earlier. Shutting down soeculations on CP3 and FVF, I’d suspect the Spurs would aggressively move up the draft to get Black or even Amen (if Spurs are really high on him). And even use 33rd and 44th picks (plus future picks) to try and get Bilal to please Wemby.

    We might get Wemby, Black/Amen and Bilal by the end of the draft night. !

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    Not thrilled with the “run it back” at ude. Wemby wants to win, and you don’t do that running it back with Mamu and KBD coming off the damn bench.

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    I'm glad to hear the "avoid big costly mistakes." They never really have and they're not about to now. Everything will be done taking care and attention.

    To me, the 'win right away' thing is overblown. Everyone knows this is a rebuild. But this is a much better team than many here think. With a centerpiece who will deliver defense and offensive gravity right away, all these pieces will start locking together. We're a playoff team at least by year two, imo.

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    “The plan is to avoid big, costly mistakes,” he explained, “and to slowly build this thing out. See what you have first, see what you need, see what can be grown organically and go from there.”
    As we predicted in some topics. Best way to go.

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    Wemby will like to compete as soon as possible. So slow building as others here in ST spoke about may not be the case. Hence, I’d suspect PATFO would be really aggressive surrounding Wemby with talents earlier.
    That seems contrary to what timvp's source told him, i.e., “The plan is to avoid big, costly mistakes,” he explained, “and to slowly build this thing out. See what you have first, see what you need, see what can be grown organically and go from there.”

    As far as Wemby wanting to win ASAP, he could have done that in the French League and instead he chose to try to build around a bunch of underdogs.

    That seems to indicate that Wemby wants to win, but do it the right way, long term (and on his terms).

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    Not thrilled with the “run it back” at ude. Wemby wants to win, and you don’t do that running it back with Mamu and KBD coming off the damn bench.
    The tenth and eleventh guy on the roster aren't holding this team back. If anything, Mamu fitting in just improves the roster.

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    Great stuff timvp. I had previously speculated Wemby's team would want to incorporate a lot of rest into his schedule, but clearly that's not the case! Will be interesting to see how he holds up and how the new performance centre they're building helps keep him healthy and growing physically and as a player.

    What a gem this kid is, truly special on so many levels in a way so few are. We are blessed.

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    I don’t want to be the voice of concern, but my first impressions of Wemby is he is a NOT a Timmy or DRob who just quietly listens and trust the Spurs way. He will voice out what he wants, others might say having a “superstar” at ude. I’m hoping to be wrong. The PATFO will surely need to reevaluate their approach and avoid a Kawhi situation.

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    He has a certain vision of what he wants for sure. But he is also incredibly grounded and admits he doesn't know anything yet about what life in the NBA will be like; I get the impression that for now he wants to learn and benefit from the knowledge of the players and coaches around him. Watch the JJ Re interview if you haven't yet, Victor is no typical NBA superstar.

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    I'm glad to hear the "avoid big costly mistakes." They never really have and they're not about to now. Everything will be done taking care and attention.

    To me, the 'win right away' thing is overblown. Everyone knows this is a rebuild. But this is a much better team than many here think. With a centerpiece who will deliver defense and offensive gravity right away, all these pieces will start locking together. We're a playoff team at least by year two, imo.
    I agree with that.

    The Spurs young core was already promising before they even won the Wembystakes.

    Branham has the potential to be a high-end NBA scorer and he's the one no one even talks about (which says a lot about how promising the others are).

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    That seems contrary to what timvp's source told him, i.e., “The plan is to avoid big, costly mistakes,” he explained, “and to slowly build this thing out. See what you have first, see what you need, see what can be grown organically and go from there.”

    As far as Wemby wanting to win ASAP, he could have done that in the French League and instead he chose to try to build around a bunch of underdogs.

    That seems to indicate that Wemby wants to win, but do it the right way, long term (and on his terms).
    That’s what Wright is saying. It’s not exactly what Wemby is saying. I’m hopeful both camps will see eye-to-eye and agree on the best way to a long term success. Surely the Spurs haven’t got the same superstar that they had in Timmy or DRob with Wemby. It’s exciting but still concerning how much vocal he is on becoming the best.

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    I don’t want to be the voice of concern, but my first impressions of Wemby is he is a NOT a Timmy or DRob who just quietly listens and trust the Spurs way. He will voice out what he wants, others might say having a “superstar” at ude. I’m hoping to be wrong. The PATFO will surely need to reevaluate their approach and avoid a Kawhi situation.
    I'd rather a guy who wants to play every game than somebody who wants to be load managed half the season tbh

    If you were expecting another low maintenance guy than you are in for a world of disappointment. The Spurs made concessions even for Timmy back in the day (and rightfully so) and if Wemby lives up to the hype, you basically have to acquiesce him to keep him long term. You don't think Steph gets a ton of say in how the organization is run? Jokic? Giannis? That's just the norm in sports tbh.

    I'm sure PATFO is still shook from the Nephew situation and will do what it takes to keep Wemby happy in SA.

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    That’s what Wright is saying. It’s not exactly what Wemby is saying. I’m hopeful both camps will see eye-to-eye and agree on the best way to a long term success. Surely the Spurs haven’t got the same superstar that they had in Timmy or DRob with Wemby. It’s exciting but still concerning how much vocal he is on becoming the best.
    In what world is the guy you're about to draft #1 talking about how he wants to become the best and be a champion right away concerning?

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    In conjunction with Victor Wemby's interview on JJ Re 's podcast, I see that the Spurs and him will come to a happy middle-ground on the "playing all games" issue. Wemby mentioned that he will take a humble approach and want to learn from the Spurs as to what is the best possible way to succeed even while seeking to be better and to better his teammates all around. And the Spurs saying that they are open to Wemby's idea of being available for every game suggests that they do not want to impose a model on him.

    In any case, the "load management" thing that the Spurs deployed in the 2000s/10s was largely during a time when their key players - Duncan, Parker and Manu were growing older or were recovering from niggles, injuries more and more. Wemby is young and compe ive and wants to play basketball as he is passionate about it. The only load that he needs to manage is the effect of having to play much more games per week than he was in France, on his lower extremities - feet, knee, ankle and the pounding he could receive on his upper body. He might think that recovery and preparation exercises will help him manage the load better, but the Spurs can convince him to take minutes restrictions or a lighter load during games in order to prolong his health, if that is what they think they need to do. I feel Wemby's at ude shows that he will be receptive to sound advice if he finds that to be "sound". The Spurs are lucky to have a Spurs fan - maybe even homer - to be a part of the team.

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    In what world is the guy you're about to draft #1 talking about how he wants to become the best and be a champion right away concerning?
    The difference with Steph and other others is they play in a big market. They can afford paying huge luxury taxes to sign multiple All-NBA to ring up. Spurs were lucky to have unselfish Big 3 who made sacrifices and trusted the system. They also kept grounded on how they handled the press, I’m sure to avoid unnecessary heat and drama. All I’m saying is my initial impression of Wemby is he is much vocal. I’m sure if any of the Big 3 were asked, “I’d leave it to Pop to decide what is best for the team.” I’m excited but yet concerning to say the least.

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    Glad to see they’re still trying to aggressively move up into the lottery. Black is likely a pipe dream, but Wallace or Bufkin would both be great gets in that 11-15 range. Coulibaly is also extremely unlikely imo as I think he’s quickly become the most overrated player in this draft based on potential, and a I’ve seen him in some mocks going in the top-10 now. I don’t think he makes it past OKC at 12, who could use another SF prospect and are reportedly high on him. There will be no slide for him imo, despite him being a no-show in most of the Mets’ games down the stretch of the season. The hype machine is real.

    Also glad to see we’re unlikely to pursue CP3 or FVV. Didn’t want either of them. Re-sign Tre and let the young kids get their reps. I may be in the minority here, but I still haven’t given up on Blake Wesley tbh. Yeah he was pretty bad last season, but his injury didn’t really give him a chance to find a rhythm, and he’s still barely 20 years old. If he can learn to finish in traffic when he attacks the basket, his potential is still really high. But he’s gotta do it. He needs to take a leap this year and show that he’s capable tbh.
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    I don’t want to be the voice of concern, but my first impressions of Wemby is he is a NOT a Timmy or DRob who just quietly listens and trust the Spurs way. He will voice out what he wants, others might say having a “superstar” at ude. I’m hoping to be wrong. The PATFO will surely need to reevaluate their approach and avoid a Kawhi situation.
    Every generation of Spurs are different, and it seems like things are coming back around to the ABA/early NBA teams, more flamboyance and media access.

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    The Spurs trade up to get Kobe Bufkin, passing up Bilal Coulibaly, Victor quits the team in rage. You heard it here first.

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    Every generation of Spurs are different, and it seems like things are coming back around to the ABA/early NBA teams, more flamboyance and media access.
    I don't think they can keep Sochan off social media, much less try to control Wembanyama. Pop will just have to adapt once again.

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