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    Did yourself, Obstructed View, Chinook or anyone else see all the Mets post season games and have a take on Coul?
    I only saw one game. The one where pretty much everyone said the Mets were getting ref burned.
    From what i saw, Coul is not NBA ready.
    I know, he's only 18 and I'm not expecting him to be ready.
    What i mean is from what little i saw he did not strike me as a 1st round pick.
    One game.

    How bout you ones that saw him a lot.
    Hey did any of you see him all regular season long too?
    Top 10 pick to me. Played against grown men (some ex-NBA players). Has playmaking abilities. Very good perimeter defender. Huge hands and wingspan. In the mold of Siakam/nephew.

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    Spurs haven't even drafted him yet. Nothing wrong with him in New York a day before.

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    let him play and let him see the grind of the nba and hope that wemby and the spurs medical staff learn to trust each other and get on the same page to maximize wembys career and longevity

    hopefully avoiding any major injuries
    This is what has to happen.

    The inference that Wemby has 90-99% of the say, might sound real macho on Wembys behalf but team needs to wear the pants here. Cannot be stressed enough.


    The old NFL Ronnie Lott "put me in coach, cut the tip of my finger off" gets glorified among some NFL lair, but it was and is total bull .

    "The source explained that Wembanyama was very proud of the fact he didn’t miss a game this season. If he wants to keep his ironman streak alive in his rookie season, it sounds like the Spurs won’t get in his way."

    ^ Spurs need to wear the pants, along with team Wembys input.

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    I don’t want to be the voice of concern, but my first impressions of Wemby is he is a NOT a Timmy or DRob who just quietly listens and trust the Spurs way. He will voice out what he wants, others might say having a “superstar” at ude. I’m hoping to be wrong. The PATFO will surely need to reevaluate their approach and avoid a Kawhi situation.
    They better bend to whatever he wants tbh

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    Well, yes. Bilal will be picked higher than Rupert, simple as that. Meaning GMs see him as better prospect. But I understood YOU like Rupert better.

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    Well, yes. Bilal will be picked higher than Rupert, simple as that. Meaning GMs see him as better prospect. But I understood YOU like Rupert better.
    They could view him higher. I don’t think he’ll have a more successful career. Period. Plenty of later draft picks outperform higher one. Nothing new here.

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    They could view him higher. I don’t think he’ll have a more successful career. Period. Plenty of later draft picks outperform higher one. Nothing new here.
    thats literally what he just said

    GMs see him as a better prospect. but you like rupert better

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    They could view him higher. I don’t think he’ll have a more successful career. Period. Plenty of later draft picks outperform higher one. Nothing new here.
    Sure but statiscally and on average higher picks have a better career than lower ones, so I'm not sure of the argument here... Again, I understand you believe Rupert is better but that does'nt make him naturally so. I trust more GMs who see Bilal as the better prospect (which is also my case, only to start for his defense) and if you could be right ultimately, odds are against you.

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    Sure but statiscally and on average higher picks have a better career than lower ones, so I'm not sure of the argument here... Again, I understand you believe is better but that does'nt make him naturally so. I trust more GMs who see Bilal as the better prospect (which alos my case, only to start for his defense) and if you could be right ultimately, odds are against you.
    That’s fine. I’m not asking for you to agree with me. I trust my track record over the years and have been right about prospects a lot more than I’ve been wrong (and I’ve definitely been wrong).

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    12)We previously reported that a scout for a Western Conference team believes that the Spurs will attempt to try to sign Fred VanVleet or Chris Paul. I asked a Spurs source about that possibility and he basically shot it down.“The plan is to avoid big, costly mistakes,” he explained, “and to slowly build this thing out. See what you have first, see what you need, see what can be grown organically and go from there.
    If that's the plan (makes sense to me, you should be caring about maximising a 10 year window, not a rookie year), I wonder if the Spurs will be hunting for deals to absorb a bad, short term contracts in exchange for draft assets. If you're planning on seeing what you have and not making a splash, it seems sensible to hunt around the big spending teams and see what you can extract for taking on salary. Could we combine taking on bad money, sending out second round picks for future firsts? We'll need to clear the logjam of #2s out, might get better value if we combine that with taking on $$$.

    Would the Knicks give up some of their weak 1sts from OKC (from the Ousmane Dieng trade) if the Spurs took on Fourniers' deal? (Maybe not if they're star hunting)
    Heat give up 18 for us to take on Lowry or Robinson? (less likely, they're better players), with us sending 33 (or 44 and a 2024 second)? (more likely)

    Whether those trades go through or not depends on other offers, but hopefully the Spurs are trying.

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    That’s fine. I’m not asking for you to agree with me. I trust my track record over the years and have been right about prospects a lot more than I’ve been wrong (and I’ve definitely been wrong).
    Possible, that's not an exact sicence and we all have our pet prospects... Defense is really where I see Bilal earning solid NBA minutes and I'm sure what have GMs valuing him more, since that's something tangible, you can see the instincts and BB IQ, which is something you can't teach... Offense and shooting will tell if he can be more than a 3&D guy...

    You also can see the potential in Rupert as a tall guard who can play multiple positions but that's much more theorical, like a REAL prospect to mold. You have the body and the handlings but can he be a real player? his 1 ass/game in Australia is a real concern, he lacks court vision and feel for the game... He still doesn't get it, will he ever?

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    A reason why Coulibaly is projected as a lottery pick is that he is a late bloomer due too a huge growth spurt he had when he was 16 years old. He is very new at the SF spot, at a high level of play and with a body of this size.

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    I find that Spurs drafting Coulibaly is asking for troubles:
    - If he starts struggling, there will quickly have the whole "he has been drafted by Spurs only because he is Wembanyama budy" talk. It will be a complicate situation to handle for a very young Coulibaly.
    - If he starts to be good and take away minutes from players like Vassell, KJ or Sochan, these players will likely at some point ask themselves: "Is he better than me or is he just playing to please Wembanyama.".

    Wembanyama isn't shy and speaks quite well English. Spurs' players are, from what I've seen, a bunch of good guys. Wembanyama should fit smoothly within the team especially when you consider that he isn't a selfish player on the court (he passes the ball and plays defense).
    This could even extend to the Spurs trying to trade for another first. If the Spurs end up getting offered, say, the Mavs' #10 pick and they take it because a player they really like (other than Coulibaly) is on the board, would Wemby get mad at the Spurs for drafting someone else when they could have had Coulibaly instead? It might be better to just give up on an early or mid first as a trade target, and instead go for a later pick when Coulibaly won't be available.

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    This could even extend to the Spurs trying to trade for another first. If the Spurs end up getting offered, say, the Mavs' #10 pick and they take it because a player they really like (other than Coulibaly) is on the board, would Wemby get mad at the Spurs for drafting someone else when they could have had Coulibaly instead? It might be better to just give up on an early or mid first as a trade target, and instead go for a later pick when Coulibaly won't be available.
    Well, it's not up to Wembanyama to decide who Spurs should draft. He isn't the GM or the owner, he is a 19 years old rookie.

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    This fool is probably just going off TiMVPs analysis.

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    Well, it's not up to Wembanyama to decide who Spurs should draft. He isn't the GM or the owner, he is a 19 years old rookie.
    His rookie ass should bring the ing doughnuts to practice.

    We talkin bout practice . . .


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    I find that Spurs drafting Coulibaly is asking for troubles:
    - If he starts struggling, there will quickly have the whole "he has been drafted by Spurs only because he is Wembanyama budy" talk. It will be a complicate situation to handle for a very young Coulibaly.
    - If he starts to be good and take away minutes from players like Vassell, KJ or Sochan, these players will likely at some point ask themselves: "Is he better than me or is he just playing to please Wembanyama.".

    Wembanyama isn't shy and speaks quite well English. Spurs' players are, from what I've seen, a bunch of good guys. Wembanyama should fit smoothly within the team especially when you consider that he isn't a selfish player on the court (he passes the ball and plays defense).
    Maybe this is why we keep hearing how SA is trying to move up to get him, so someone else tries to poach him first and they won't have to worry about any of that

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    Spurs officials right now: Who is Vector Wembanana?

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    His rookie ass should bring the ing doughnuts to practice.

    We talkin bout practice . . .

    Get Timmy back on the payroll to coach him and tell his ass to bring dem donuts.
    This is Timmy telling you, foo'.

    As an aside, I'd rather breakfast tacos, but that's just me.

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    Who is Vector Wembanana?
    An NBA prospect from the tropics.
    Heard he's a freak, but I think it's more about what he does at the clubs than on the court.

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    An NBA prospect from the tropics.
    Heard he's a freak, but I think it's more about what he does at the clubs than on the court.
    OH NO ITS PRIMO ALL OVER AGAIN

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    With Wembanyama, Sochan, Branham, and Wesley on the summer league roster, the team is destined to win the championship.

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    What's the diva treatment?
    Well seems like PATFO are letting him set terms.... a damn rookie.

    Also, I guess he's just answering questions being asked, but his answers sound a little too wise or rehearsed for a 19-year-old. Then all that talk about championships asap. Guy doesn't know anything yet. He'll probably give himself a nickname too.

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    This fool is probably just going off TiMVPs analysis.
    You mean ST analysis... Bilal has been discussed here and linked to the spurs for like 2 months with Offset and I as official pimps (although I'm not as hardcore as offset who sees Bilal as a top 2 prospect....).

    Truth is anyway nobody know anything, just guessing and trying to put coherent stuff out there... Wemby is a future spur + Bilal is his friend= spurs interested. Not saying they are not and that could make sense, but nobody knows anything.
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