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    And again, this isn't 2K. Spurs will be wery cautious with their assets. One FRP + 33 (and eventually 44) is all I can see them be ready to give to trade up in the 20s. And I actually believe they won't trade up at all.
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    spurs could be hoping that's what happens where a lottery talent they like falls into the 20's making it easier to trade up without overpaying or losing key assets
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    Naturally. Don’t think he’ll fall far enough for us to make a move anyways, but I’m not surprised.

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    I really think Coulibaly would be a mistake.
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    There is a bit of smoke coming out that Spurs could get pick 10 from Dallas in exchange for cap space so they can sign Draymond....
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    There is a bit of smoke coming out that Spurs could get pick 10 from Dallas in exchange for cap space so they can sign Draymond....
    where are you hearing that?
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    There is a bit of smoke coming out that Spurs could get pick 10 from Dallas in exchange for cap space so they can sign Draymond....
    Bring Bertans home tbh
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    10th pick + Bertans for CHA pick + 33rd Pick this year. Who says no tbh.
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    I suspect there is a “ off” at ude toward spurs right now.
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    There is a bit of smoke coming out that Spurs could get pick 10 from Dallas in exchange for cap space so they can sign Draymond....
    Bill Simmons mused about this on his podcast, but only as an example of what Dallas could do if Green signaled he’d sign there. Unless it was presented elsewhere, it was a pure example of how they could make the space.
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    I suspect there is a “ off” at ude toward spurs right now.
    teams who need to deal will make deals

    did the league have a off at ude with the Cavs when they won the lottery in 3 out of 4 years and then were able to sign LeBron James back? nah, the cavs were still able to make trades, land kevin love, etc
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    10th pick + Bertans for CHA pick + 33rd Pick this year. Who says no tbh.
    id be good with something like that tbh

    but would keep 33 and give them 44 and 1-2 additional future seconds

    bert isnt an expiring deal. i doubt he exercises his ETO. 2 years of a guy making north of about 1.5x full MLE money and hasnt been a serious rotation player for two years now... not to be taken lightly
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    Yeah, I’m talking about this draft specifically. Have no doubt they will deal again, even as soon as this summer.
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    Yeah, I’m talking about this draft specifically. Have no doubt they will deal again, even as soon as this summer.
    nah, even this draft

    if a team thinks they'll benefit from making a deal, they're not going to turn away a trade partner who is willing to tango unless they have a better partner
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    10th pick + Bertans for CHA pick + 33rd Pick this year. Who says no tbh.
    Dallas needs immediate contributors.
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    Dallas needs immediate contributors.
    think the idea here is they use that cap space from dumping bertans to go get Draymond or somethin
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    think the idea here is they use that cap space from dumping bertans to go get Draymond or somethin
    The 10 is worth more than just cap space tho.
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    id be good with something like that tbh

    but would keep 33 and give them 44 and 1-2 additional future seconds

    bert isnt an expiring deal. i doubt he exercises his ETO. 2 years of a guy making north of about 1.5x full MLE money and hasnt been a serious rotation player for two years now... not to be taken lightly
    I think I read somewhere that although the final year of Bertans' contract has a PO, it is only partially guaranteed (~$5M). Still not ideal, but it makes it a lot easier to swallow if true.
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    Don't totally get that for Indiana.
    This is a big W for Indiana, IMO. They basically trade picks this year they didn’t need and roll them forward next year with upside to SIGNIFICANTLY be improved. The pick they are getting back could be as high as #2 (though very unlikely). There is a decent path to it being a lotto pick, and the EV is probably somewhere around the LAC slot this year at #20.

    IMO this is a solid trade by both teams.
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    The 10 is worth more than just cap space tho.
    thats why they'd also be getting back the 24 charlotte pick + scraps
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    I think I read somewhere that although the final year of Bertans' contract has a PO, it is only partially guaranteed (~$5M). Still not ideal, but it makes it a lot easier to swallow if true.
    ah, thats true
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    This is a big W for Indiana, IMO. They basically trade picks this year they didn’t need and roll them forward next year with upside to SIGNIFICANTLY be improved. The pick they are getting back could be as high as #2 (though very unlikely). There is a decent path to it being a lotto pick, and the EV is probably somewhere around the LAC slot this year at #20.

    IMO this is a solid trade by both teams.
    theres basically no upside to the pick. they get the "least favorable" of 4 different potential picks, including OKC and LAC

    and next year's draft is going to be much much worse than this one. you'd probably want this year's 29th overall pick over next years 23rd overall pick or whatever

    in the meantime they also gave up 32 this year which is also probably better than some of next year's late first rounders

    indy lost value in this because they had a surplus of picks and didnt want to make all the selections. lesson to be learned for the spurs if they end up getting 3 FRPs in 2024 and 2025 and dont want to use them all. all the more reason to give up some of those picks to get an extra selection this year
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    theres basically no upside to the pick. they get the "least favorable" of 4 different potential picks, including OKC and LAC
    The “least favorable” can still be as high as #2 the way the protections are. There is considerable upside versus picking #29 (especially when you already have two FRPs you’ll have already made)

    and next year's draft is going to be much much worse than this one. you'd probably want this year's 29th overall pick over next years 23rd overall pick or whatever
    This is an incredibly stupid thing people keep saying. Next year’s draft doesn’t have Wemby - but trying to say today that it will be weaker than this year’s is just plain dumb. After Wemby, Scoot and the Thompsons, none of the top players in this draft were high on the radar - they emerged during the season, just like they do every year.

    in the meantime they also gave up 32 this year which is also probably better than some of next year's late first rounders
    Another pick they didn’t want that you’re projecting your imaginary crystal ball on. And they still got #40 back - which they may value higher than #32 because they might be able to get #40 into a two-way whereas they couldn’t with #32

    indy lost value in this because they had a surplus of picks and didnt want to make all the selections. lesson to be learned for the spurs if they end up getting 3 FRPs in 2024 and 2025 and dont want to use them all. all the more reason to give up some of those picks to get an extra selection this year
    There are lessons to be learned from having a glut of picks, but this is far from an L from IND, unless you base it on the ignorant premise that every range in next year’s draft will be worse than this year’s (which requires a crystal ball that you don’t have)
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