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    Washington moved Beal and Porzingis and didn't get a single first round pick for them.

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    In the span of 6 months, the Wizards will have lost Hachimura, Beal, Porzingis and Kuzma without getting a single 1st round pick back. That's wild tbh

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    Also, it seems like we could get Brogdon for #33 + cap space to Washington if we wanted him.
    Damn, could have been nice. He's on a pretty good contract too.

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    The Wizards best player of the last 20 years has been Gilbert Arenas. They’re just a nothing franchise.

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    really love what Boston and Washington did tonight.

    Boston got two solid picks and Porzingis for filler and Marcus Smart.

    Washington clears another contract and gets a good potential starting point guard in Jones.

    Memphis gave up a load IMO for Smart.

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    So Boston tried to trade another injured player Stevens has learnt some tricks from Ainge.

    I like the final deal though. Time will tell how successful it'll be for Boston, depends on KP's health and if Brogdon is legit damaged they'll need another player for the backcourt rotation as well, so they're not done dealing for sure.

    Washington's being dunked on for not getting 1sts but they were not in the driving seat for either trade with Beal's NTC and Kristaps's option having to be picked by last night. They got what they could get, the other option was losing him for nothing.

    Memphis needed someone who's more of a locker room presence but Smart could be a bit abrasive, we'll see. He's on a good long term contract though, so sending two late picks (GS's might be weirdly decent) would be worth it if he fits in.

    Clippers being left with Marcus Morris and a $210 mil payroll is the best part of it lol

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    Boston killed it tbh

    i like smart but expiring KP and 2 firsts is quite a haul

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    Since Washington's having a fire sale, I wouldn't mind the Spurs grabbing Delon Wright for scraps... he's been a really reliable bench guy the last two years, and is a very good defender as a 6'5" PG. Solid vet.

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    Boston FO continues to be amazing.
    2 FRP and KP for Smart is a great trade.
    If KP can stay healthy they might get a chip out of it.
    Even if Porzingis doesn't work out they get two extra FRP to keep the machine rolling.
    There are still years to go before our pick swap, but it's hard to imagine them being incompetent anytime soon.
    Hopefully by then were a top 5 team in the league or better.

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    this trade doesn't make sense for any of these teams tbh. Memphis let's Brooks walk, replaces him with Smart, but trades Jones. Celtics ship out Smart for Porzingis when Smart was part of their core? All these teams seem to be desperate to do something to change things up just to change things up. Must be locker room issues somewhere.

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    From ESPN trade grades

    Jones was linked heavily to the Wizards as a free agent when they were searching for a starting point guard last summer. After returning to Memphis on a two-year deal, Jones outplayed Monte Morris, the point guard Washington did manage to add.

    Given the likelihood of the Wizards focusing on developing young talent, Jones might now be most important as a trade chip. Finding a team in need of a starting point guard is a tricky proposition right now, but given a reasonable contract, Washington should be able to find a taker by the 2024 trade deadline to add additional draft capital
    Do Spurs go after him?

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    Seems wild Memphis coughed up two FRPs given the desperation to get something done.

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    Boston killed it tbh

    i like smart but expiring KP and 2 firsts is quite a haul
    I 'm in agreement for the most part,
    However, it leaves them pretty thin in the backcourt and they loose someone who has a bit of an edge to him.

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    Celtics had weird team chemistry even with Smart. Without him I'm not sure there's an active pulse on most anyone on the roster.

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    I don't understand what's going on. Wizards move Porzingis for... Tyus Jones?

    Boston gets Porzingis and two picks?
    And over 10M in savings, but yes I agree this is odd for them. On the flip side they have acquired an asset that will be in high demand at the trade deadline.

    Shocked BOS got two picks back (admittedly I haven’t looked at protections yet).

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    Seems like Celtics fans have mixed emotions on this but I’m not getting it…essentially gave up Smart to get Porzingis + move up from 35 to 25 in this year’s draft + Golden State’s 1st round pick next year.

    Porzingis is coming off a career year in Washington and should fit perfectly in Boston. This year’s draft looks super deep and moving up from 35 to 25 could solidify their ability to grab a guy they’re confident will make an impact. Then next year Golden State’s pick is a wildcard - probably ends up being in the mid-late 20s but you never know with their aging group. Wouldn’t be the most surprising thing in the world if that pick ends up being something in the 18-22 range.

    I don’t know. I get they love Smart and he’s a big part of their culture but this just seems like a no-brainer to me.

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    this trade doesn't make sense for any of these teams tbh. Memphis let's Brooks walk, replaces him with Smart, but trades Jones. Celtics ship out Smart for Porzingis when Smart was part of their core? All these teams seem to be desperate to do something to change things up just to change things up. Must be locker room issues somewhere.
    Jones apparently wanted a starting spot and he's got one year left on his deal, Memphis didn't want to pay him.
    I can see why they wanted Smart, but idk if it works out with their roster. I really don't like him as a player. He's pretty much a better version of Brooks, though. And Brooks had to go because of his antics.

    Celtics had three point guards and wanted to get rid of one. Derrick and Brogdon did play off the ball a lot, but they're point guards for all intents and purposes. Smart is the worst of the three when it comes to actually running an offense.
    When the deal with Clippers fell through, Memphis must've called right away, but wanted Smart instead.

    This is great for Derrick because he'll finally be able to play his actual role. Obviously they're playing different positions, but healthy KP is a big upgrade over smart and they've got more than enough perimeter defense already.
    White-Brown-Tatum-KP-Williams looks amazing on both ends, at least on paper.

    Bucks, Miami and Sixers need to make some moves now.
    I fully expect Riley to chase Lillard all summer long.
    If idiots from Charlotte pass on Scoot, Blazers really need to tell Dame that it's time to go.

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    Seems like Celtics fans have mixed emotions on this but I’m not getting it…essentially gave up Smart to get Porzingis + move up from 35 to 25 in this year’s draft + Golden State’s 1st round pick next year.

    Porzingis is coming off a career year in Washington and should fit perfectly in Boston. This year’s draft looks super deep and moving up from 35 to 25 could solidify their ability to grab a guy they’re confident will make an impact. Then next year Golden State’s pick is a wildcard - probably ends up being in the mid-late 20s but you never know with their aging group. Wouldn’t be the most surprising thing in the world if that pick ends up being something in the 18-22 range.

    I don’t know. I get they love Smart and he’s a big part of their culture but this just seems like a no-brainer to me.
    I think Smart pretty much was the team culture. I never get the impression the Celtics players hang out together, do anything together, barely know each other's names. They just seem to play together because they wear the same jerseys.

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    this trade doesn't make sense for any of these teams tbh. Memphis let's Brooks walk, replaces him with Smart, but trades Jones. Celtics ship out Smart for Porzingis when Smart was part of their core? All these teams seem to be desperate to do something to change things up just to change things up. Must be locker room issues somewhere.
    I can see the reasoning for each team; the thing I’m most shocked about is the picks BOS got back tbh

    BOS: fix the backcourt logjam and address big man issues

    MEM: hold down the fort with Ja out, plus find a possible Ja replacement if goes sideways there

    WAS: 10M savings + acquire a high in demand trade chip in Jones

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    I think Smart pretty much was the team culture. I never get the impression the Celtics players hang out together, do anything together, barely know each other's names. They just seem to play together because they wear the same jerseys.
    That’s fair but their culture (with this specific core they’ve had) also has involved never being able to get over the hump and actually win a le They’ll be just fine pivoting to Derrick White as their main PG and now having Porzingis. I don’t think they realize how good Porzingis was last year for Washington.

    Maybe I’m underrating the “culture” aspect but if the Spurs made a trade like this I’d be over the moon.

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    Jones apparently wanted a starting spot and he's got one year left on his deal, Memphis didn't want to pay him.
    I can see why they wanted Smart, but idk if it works out with their roster. I really don't like him as a player. He's pretty much a better version of Brooks, though. And Brooks had to go because of his antics.

    Celtics had three point guards and wanted to get rid of one. Derrick and Brogdon did play off the ball a lot, but they're point guards for all intents and purposes. Smart is the worst of the three when it comes to actually running an offense.
    When the deal with Clippers fell through, Memphis must've called right away, but wanted Smart instead.

    This is great for Derrick because he'll finally be able to play his actual role. Obviously they're playing different positions, but healthy KP is a big upgrade over smart and they've got more than enough perimeter defense already.
    White-Brown-Tatum-KP-Williams looks amazing on both ends, at least on paper.

    Bucks, Miami and Sixers need to make some moves now.
    I fully expect Riley to chase Lillard all summer long.
    If idiots from Charlotte pass on Scoot, Blazers really need to tell Dame that it's time to go.
    KP played 65 games, the most since 2016. I’m not ready to declare him healthy just yet.

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    I assume KP did this with some understanding that he’d get extended. That contract will be interesting to see.

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    Celtics had weird team chemistry even with Smart. Without him I'm not sure there's an active pulse on most anyone on the roster.
    Yes, I think to everyone but Stevens it was evident they should have moved him seasons ago. It’s been time

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    It is a bit risky for the Celtics in that KP and Brogdon historically miss a lot of games. D. White has been healthy with the Celtics but he will now play a bigger role. Hopefully he continues to stay healthy but he wasn’t with a big role with the Spurs.

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    KP played 65 games, the most since 2016. I’m not ready to declare him healthy just yet.
    Yeah, I should've worded it differently. He's an upgrade if he stays healthy, but him being healthy will always be a big question mark.

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