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    I love this option if it can be done for a 2nd round or two.

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    Feels like OKC’s backcourt is suddenly getting stacked. SGA, Jalen Williams, Cason Wallace, this Milic guy, Isaiah Joe, & Tre Mann. On top of ball-dominant F Josh Giddey. Good problem to have I guess.

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    Tre Mann is cheeks

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    $14M/per for a backup C isn’t ideal. This signals to me that they’re planning on trading one of KAT or Rudy after another inevitable failure of a season though. Rumor has it they’ve already been shopping KAT before the draft. Either way, I think they eventually try to recoup some of those lost draft picks via that awful Rudy trade by shipping one of those guys out sooner rather than later.
    KAT is 100% gone imo. Naz will play about 25 minutes a game (15 minutes backing up Rudy and about 10 minutes at the 4 depending on how well they mesh). Naz is more suited to the 4 than KAT is who is way too slow footed and basically too big and slow to play there.

    I think the Wolves and Cavs should do a deal around Garland and KAT and involve a third team to take Jarrett Allen. Garland fills a position of need for the Wolves at the 1, KAT gives the Cavs more offense and Mobley next to him at the 4 covers his deficiencies.

    Wolves
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    Stretch 4/Naz Reid
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    Mobley
    3/D wing
    Mitc
    3/D point

    Maybe the Spurs can get involved and facilitate sending Jarett Allen Somewhere for a pick and taking on some bad salary.

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    I love this option if it can be done for a 2nd round or two.
    Probably a few of our best 2nds or maybe take Bertans off their hands?

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    Probably a few of our best 2nds or maybe take Bertans off their hands?
    I would love to get future all-star Bertans back, tbh.

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    I would love to get future all-star Bertans back, tbh.
    I bet tbh

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    I would love to get future all-star Bertans back, tbh.
    Interesting note is that while Bert has a ETO in the last year of his deal (2024-25 season) for 16M, only $5 million of the last year is guaranteed. It’s only fully guaranteed if plays 75% of regular season games in 2023-24.

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    KAT to the Hawks for Dejounte/Collins? tbh

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    KAT and Trae are made for each other ^

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    KAT to the Hawks for Dejounte/Collins? tbh
    If they made that trade Minnesota might be willing to move Conley..

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    KAT to the Hawks for Dejounte/Collins? tbh
    Maybe but who’s gonna defend on the Hawks? Especially to make up for how pathetic KAT is on that end. Don’t think Deandre Hunter is good enough to cover him alone. Plus Collins has negative value and Dejounte alone has less value than KAT imo. Maybe if they can get. A defensive 4 nezt to Hunter at the 3 you can cover KAT with two big defensive wings.

    If I’m a franchise I’m only trading for KAT if I can pair him next to a high level defensive 4. I.e Mobley, Bam, JJJ, WEMBY .

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    Maybe but who’s gonna defend on the Hawks? Especially to make up for how pathetic KAT is on that end. Don’t think Deandre Hunter is good enough to cover him alone. Plus Collins has negative value and Dejounte alone has less value than KAT imo. Maybe if they can get. A defensive 4 nezt to Hunter at the 3 you can cover KAT with two big defensive wings.

    If I’m a franchise I’m only trading for KAT if I can pair him next to a high level defensive 4. I.e Mobley, Bam, JJJ, WEMBY .
    Yeah defensive fit isn't great. I'd probably start Okongwu or Capela (if he's still around) next to Kat and have Hunter and Griffin on the wings.

    Wolves do it to move off KAT's contract even though Collins' deal is marginally better.

    Probably won't happen but I do think the following is pretty likely to happen before the deadline:
    1) Hawks move Dejounte and try to attach Collins
    2) Wolves will start taking calls on KAT

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    KAT is 100% gone imo. Naz will play about 25 minutes a game (15 minutes backing up Rudy and about 10 minutes at the 4 depending on how well they mesh). Naz is more suited to the 4 than KAT is who is way too slow footed and basically too big and slow to play there.

    I think the Wolves and Cavs should do a deal around Garland and KAT and involve a third team to take Jarrett Allen. Garland fills a position of need for the Wolves at the 1, KAT gives the Cavs more offense and Mobley next to him at the 4 covers his deficiencies.

    Wolves
    Rudy
    Stretch 4/Naz Reid
    McDaniels
    Edwards
    Garland

    Cavs
    KAT
    Mobley
    3/D wing
    Mitc
    3/D point

    Maybe the Spurs can get involved and facilitate sending Jarett Allen Somewhere for a pick and taking on some bad salary.
    Eventually the Cavaliers will have to turn Allen into a stretch big and choose between Mitc /Garland (the former could make the decision for them first), but it's too soon.

    Their core, although talented and young, is too flawed to win at the highest level (two limited-non shooting C's offensively, two small guards defensively, no 3 and D wings or draft capital/flexibility).

    This trade would also create a second significant hole for them to fill, with limited means to do so.


    KAT to the Hawks for Dejounte/Collins? tbh
    Not enough for the Timberwolves, although they're in a win-now situation (likely stuck with Gobert, clock ticking on Edwards), so this is a more likely package than picks/prospects.

    Said it at the time, they should have just offered the Spurs close to what they did for Gobert for Murray + Poeltl last off season.

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    Interesting note is that while Bert has a ETO in the last year of his deal (2024-25 season) for 16M, only $5 million of the last year is guaranteed. It’s only fully guaranteed if plays 75% of regular season games in 2023-24.
    Just to note, we don't have roster space for borderline rotational players. I still expect the Spurs to pick up at least one rotational player.

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    Roster crunch because of guys like Champagnie, Barlow, Bassey… really guys?

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    Roster crunch because of guys like Champagnie, Barlow, Bassey… really guys?
    It comes down to why remove min contract non rotational players for expensive non rotional players eg Bertans.

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    It comes down to why remove min contract non rotational players for expensive non rotional players eg Bertans.
    That’s a discussion to be had but that’s different from a roster crunch. Bertans wouldn’t be the target acquisition in any of these scenarios. He’s the price we pay to get what we want. Micic or otherwise

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    Roster crunch because of guys like Champagnie, Barlow, Bassey… really guys?
    Yes. Each one was a rookie or just now getting playing time. You can pretend to know who they will be as players. No one else does.

    We know what Bertans is as a player. He shoots threes. That's it. If he misses them, he's useless on the court.

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    I think the Houston rumours are all based around the fact that their pick is only top 4 protected going to OKC from the Paul / Westbrook trade, so they'll probably spend on whatever they can as they've go no reason not to. They'll probably take whatever they can. "Jakob, we missed our other targets, want $25m per year? Brook, 3 years $100m?"

    I think there's a chance for the cap space teams to get assets for taking on bad short term money - Houston being out of the running for that job means we should be able to get more out of renting our cap space to save the Knicks / Hawks / Clippers etc salary x4 with the tax impacts.

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    Wait, why would they need Jak if they have Sengün Jesus, already?
    Sengun is listed at 6'9, 235.
    He shouldn't start at C, at least not yet.

    If we get a big, it should be someone with range, but getting Jakob back would be hillarious. Raptors would go in full meltdown mode.

    I just hope we don't get FVV, can't stand him.

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    I think the Houston rumours are all based around the fact that their pick is only top 4 protected going to OKC from the Paul / Westbrook trade, so they'll probably spend on whatever they can as they've go no reason not to. They'll probably take whatever they can. "Jakob, we missed our other targets, want $25m per year? Brook, 3 years $100m?"

    I think there's a chance for the cap space teams to get assets for taking on bad short term money - Houston being out of the running for that job means we should be able to get more out of renting our cap space to save the Knicks / Hawks / Clippers etc salary x4 with the tax impacts.
    I don't think renting cap space is a good idea unless it's only for one year, as having some capspace could be really useful next summer if the Spurs make an all-in move on a non free agent vet with the Atlanta picks.

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